SPORTS SUCK!

Good evening Mike.

Yes, real men love to cook!

Actually, it was men who invented cooking.

About a 100,000 years ago, when our ancestors lived in caves or huts, they were hunters and gatherers.

The women would go into the forest to gather roots and berries and nuts, whatever wild fruits and vegetables they could find.

The men would go hunting for game and bring back meat and the men would build the fires and roast the meat over the fire, so it was men who invented cooking.

Then our ancestors learns to domesticate animals and plat crops, thus farming and agriculture was invented, and women began cooking as well as men.

But I have know many women who will tell you that men are better cooks. Most women actually admit to this.

Our most famous chefs are men.

I know I enjoy cooking myself. I love making up a great bit pot of beef stew, chopping up the meat and the vegetables and making the gravy.

I love to cook!!!

Ever know a fat man who couldn't cook?

Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

Hey Fat Man.....that was pretty funny..Actually your post makes me think of a something. You mention how most sports fans are rednecks that keep their woman chained to the stove. I can definately see that, because most sports fans do not know jack squat about cooking.. It always pisses me off when I see some bozo with a "Hogs" or "Gators" t-shirt on just "Grillin'" away...

Real men actually cook on a stove and will not ignore a lady because some stupid gay-ass football game is on..
Mike

Sorry Mike, but I must beg to differ with you.

Most jocks keep their women tied up to the bed posts when they go out so nobody can move on their chicks.

And most sports fans are rednecks who keep their women barefoot and pregnant and chained to the stove.

Especially during football season.

My idea of football season is hunting football players and mounting their heads on wall plaques.

OK! JUST KIDDING! I'M NOT GOING TO GO OUT SHOOTING ANYBODY!

No need to worry about me. I'm harmless. I haven't killed anybody since breakfast.

OK?

Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

Well fellow sports haters, the time has come , and that time is college football. Use this to your advantage this weekend as a chance to pick up and meet a lot of fine women. Their boyfriends will be mesmorized and brainwashed by the games on TV that they will not even notice if you take their chick home with you...
Mike

I hate sports so much that just hearing a word like "football" gives me a headache. It's nice to know others feel the same way. Baseball is by far the dumbest sport. As a child, I wasted many beautiful sunny afternoons standing in a baseball outfield getting sunburned. I wish I could have realized what a complete waste of time it was. It was hard to make my own decisions at that age with all the indoctrination and propaganda surrounding sports in the community and on tv. Baseball is a game where 90% of the time NOTHING IS HAPPENING! Why do we push this game on kids so much? It teaches them nothing. I just don't get it. I would love to edit a major leage game down to just the action parts. It would be about 10 minutes long! America's pastime? How the hell did that happen? Pretty stupid pastime! Ha ha ha!
Too smart for sports.
Minneapolis, MN USA

Watching sports is like watching paint dry. It's also like being served up a plate of Fail Fries slathered in Double Mild Weak Sauce with a side order of SUCK!
Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

Sports should only be for recreational activities not that overrated crap people put too much emphasis into.
Miguel Epistola <Jamzclub86@yahoo.com>
Sicklerville, NJ USA

Quote: "Don't get your fat head stuck in the door as you leave." End Quote

Actually, jocks and sports fans are pin-heads who need to wear prosthetic foreheads to make them look more human.

Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

"Sports are kick ass, you nerds should just get a life and quit your bitching."

Oh yes, it is the usual eloquent, well-supported argument I've come to expect from you 4channers this year. Why the need to use the name "Tom Hanks"? Trying to elevate yourself to the status of somebody important because you consider yourself worthy of everyone's attention? Whatever.

Sports are NOT kick-ass. They're a load of overblown tripe which for some reason have become a sort of worldwide religion over the last 100 years or so. And for some reason, people who don't indulge in this wonderful pastime of spending weekend afternoons watching men chase each other or throw balls around deserve to become the subjects of harassment which has happened to our website many a time.

Face it, you sports fans come on here attacking us with mere insults because you really know no better. You have absolutely no solid cases against our opinions and can't give us a reason regarding why we are so wrong and socially disgraceful for not sharing your interest in these overhyped play games. You're never going to take down this site so just give up. Go watch your stupid games. Go throw money at something that really shouldn't be where it is in the modern society. It's not people like us that are what's wrong with the world. It's people like you - those who have absolutely no regard whatsoever for those with conflicting opinions and believe that everyone has to conform to their ideals. Get over yourself.

Don't get your fat head stuck in the door as you leave.

Best regards,
i_like_1981 <i_like_1981@hotmail.co.uk>
England,

Touche, HugeFan! :lol:
Earl

"Sports are kick ass, you nerds should just get a life and quit your bitching."

I love that logic. That was one of the most intelligent cases I've seen in my life. In fact, I've just contacted the Nobel Prize Committee to nominate you for the prize in all categories. I'm sure they'll notice your genius as much as I do.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Excuse me Earl

But did you notice Tom Hanks E-mail address?

banned@4chan.org

We don't need to be raided and harassed by any of those zoo-tramps from 4chan again as we were earlier this year.

Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

Jocks are KISS-ASS and you sports-tards need to accept the fact that we are not interested in your fucking retarded Kindergarten games!

Sorry, but we're not interested in watching a bunch of drooling moronic monkey-boys in tight pants chasing a ball. That is so fucking gay! Chasing a ball! I can teach a dog to do as much.

DUH! HUH! HUH! HUH! I CAN KICK A BALL! Oh yeah? Really? Like, I could give a flying fucking Hootenanny in Hell!!!

Excuse me sir, but you must have me confused with somebody who gives a fuck!!!
Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

Join the forum and present your case.
Earl

Sports are kick ass, you nerds should just get a life and quit your bitching.
Tom Hanks <banned@4chan.org>
Hoboken, NJ USA

Concerning the issue of people having disagreeable online personalities: Fat Man is not exactly the only website poster who is strident and, yes, capable of making hateful statements (with which I disagree, by the way). The Internet is full of such people. Should Fat Man be singled out above them all? By the way, has Fat Man ever posted anyone's mailing address and phone number online for the purpose of subjecting that person to harassment? Does Fat Man make crank calls late at night? Does he order unwanted subscriptions for people with whom he disagrees or dislikes? Those who have subjected Fat Man to precisely this sort of harassment are, in fact, LOWER than he is. Being a human being, Fat Man has character flaws, just like everyone else (including yours truly). I have problems with many of Fat Man's posts, but I don't feel the need to go on a campaign against him (as some people have) so I can take pride in myself and say, "Wow! I confronted Fat Man. That means I'm someone special." I'm not saying you have this attitude, Drew; but most of those who have been obsessed with Fat Man's shortcomings apparently have a strong need to massage their egos.
Earl

Hahaha, Whatever 1981. I don't care if you think I'm not credible, but I *am* right. Fat Man is extremely difficult to reason with and even when you can get through to him, it's just barely. Certainly you can accept this, whether you like me or not.
Drew Mcintyre

To be honest, Drew, I don't really see what gives you the right to come onto our website and constantly keep criticising the behaviour of our long-term members. You're certainly not someone who I'd trust. Someone who comes on here under a false guise, pretending to be one of us after deceiving the admins into validating his account and then doing loads of stupid posts trying to see how many references you can throw in to your wrestling "hero" who you named your internet moniker after. After months of this stupid shit happening to us, people obviously taking pride in how far they can push their luck on this forum, you wonder why people get pissed off with you and don't want to listen to a word you say. Why should we trust you? I mean, it's all right if you want to criticise the website but at least be direct. Don't start throwing a load of stupid crap at us first if you want us to listen to you and don't expect to be shown any regard when your true purpose is discovered.

I'm sick of you fucking trolls coming onto our website and acting like you own the fucking place. I'm sick of you thinking that you have the right to piss people off on the forum and waste our time on there and then have the audacity to criticise the behaviour of any member on here once you're banned. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who signs on as a new member, starts spamming the forum, gets banned and then starts to make so-called "valid" charges against us should really just sod off. You're no genuine critic. You're just one of those trolls who thinks he owns the internet and can do whatever he damn well pleases anywhere he wants. Sorry, doesn't work like that!

You 4channers and trolls act as if we harbour some of the worst people in the world here. You constantly take time to gripe at us and say how terrible we are to the world. Why don't you fucking look at yourselves in the mirror? Look at what trolling and online harassment has done to people. It's driven some people to their death; done far worse things to people than anything anyone here has done. We know about your sites 4chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica and what they've done and continue to do to the people they humiliate, so you really have no damn right at all to start acting like the moral compass on here!

As far as I'm concerned, anyone linked to 4chan and ED who comes on here thinking they've got any right to criticise our behaviour and tell us how we should behave on our website, well, you can certainly expect no fucking regard from me and hopefully nobody else on here either!

Have a nice day.

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England

In response to Drew McIntyre (or is that Drool McIntyre)

You're damn right I'm fucked up in the head!!!

It comes from getting beaten too many times, and getting raped back when I was 17 years old.

It comes from not being allowed to get a decent education and having sports shoved down my throat.

Well, you can take sports and shove it up our ass sideways for all I care.

Fuck you very much, and have a nice day!

Now, go eat shit, crawl into a sewer, and DIE!

OK?

Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

I wouldn't even bother trying to talk some sense into Fat Man. The man is just too fucked up in the head to be reasoned with. He's blind to his own hypocrisy.
Drew McIntyre

OK, I acknowledge that NOT ALL athletes are dumb jocks. Earl has given many examples of that.

But I have not been fortunate enough to meet any athletes who were not dumb jocks.

I'm sorry, but every single one that I have had the misfortune to meet were unmitigated ass-holes!

So, it's very hard, if not impossible for me to have any respect for sports people.

But bullies or not, I feel that they are all overpaid for just chasing balls and over-privileged, being able to get away with all kinds of crimes, while I was once suspended from school just simply because I failed to climb a stupid rope in a gymnasium.

Never mind that I was passing all of my other academic subjects, and never mind that I had a crippled up left knee, the result of an accident when I was 4 yours old, leaving me unable to run like the other kids in my school and walking with a limp.

Oh no! Sports and PE was more important than science, history, or math.

Sports was all they cared about in the schools I went to.

Sorry, but I have been beaten over the head too many times, and the part of my brain that would enable me to be polite to sports people has been badly damaged.

So, as a result, when I see sports people, I can not suppress the urge to tell them to . . . . .

FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!

Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

Yes Sarah, like 1981 said, there is a between jocks and athletes. I have been good friends with several athletes who I know are intelligent, independent thinkers. I have also known several jocks who are dumber than you could imagine and treated me along with other people who succeed academically like we aren't human. I recognize the fact that there are in fact smart athletes, however there are also a large amount of jocks who are not even remotely smart.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Alright Sarah, let's set you straight on a few facts here. I try my best to distinguish between athletes and "jocks" in the forum. Whenever I mention the term "jock", I'm not applying it to all athletes, but the minority who do fit the negative stereotype of being dumb, abusive and intolerant of those with differing opinions. If I believed all sports people were like this, which I don't, then I wouldn't have used the term "jock", but applied it to all athletes instead. There is a difference between an athlete and a jock, and I know which is which. I'll make some examples of athletes and jocks on our forum. Athletes are people with a keen interest in sports. Yes, some can be abusive, but they are the ones I refer to as "jocks". Normal athletes, such as our members Polite24, Andy and SportsGuy92, are not like that and are somewhat intelligent and polite in their approach to this forum. Now here are some jocks who have posted on our forum: Samdaman, SPORTS ROCK., mikejones and Captain America. Go and check out their posts and you will see why I find it important to make the distinction between "athletes" and "jocks".

I was always under the impression that over in America, "jocks" were the abusive athletes and it was not a term used for all of them. If I am wrong in this assumption, please let me know.

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England,

Oh! And another thing . . .

I resent people like Don McLeroy (who was recently voted off the Texas State Board of Education) wanting to rewrite history by removing Thomas Jefferson from the text books and also wanting fuck up the science curriculum in our schools inserting creationism into a science class.

Yeah! This is what Texas is all about.

Sports and removing science from our schools and teaching fairy tales!

By keeping young people ignorant, and shoving sports down their throats, they hope to produce another generation of morons who will gladly fork over their money toward sports to make retarded monkey-boys rich while living in single-axle trailer homes, watching sports on their black & white TV with coat hanger antennas, drinking cheap Buckhorn beer and beating the crap out of their kids and raping their wives.

Ah yes! Ignorance is bliss!

Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

When Sarah said that she was appalled and my "abusive behavior" toward the employees of the sports center, well . . .

When they wanted to charge $3.25 dollars just for a small cup of ice water and handicapped people sitting in power chairs can't reach the water fountain for free water like so-called "normal" people so that we cripples have to pay for water while so-called "normals" drink for free, then . . .

I don't have to be polite to Nazi scum who discriminate against the handicapped.

Do I have to be nice to the KKK or to Neo-Nazi skinheads?

FUCK NO!

So, I'm a bigot because I hate morons?

In school I was beaten and bullied around by sports morons, and now sports morons what lots of money just for being morons, and charge handicapped people $3.25 just for some water.

Sports morons are bigoted because they hate people who are better educated, and moronic sports Nazis want to exterminate the handicapped and the elderly.

So, yeah! I guess I'm a bigot because I hate moronic sports Nazis!

I hate those who want to kill me!

So, I wish they would just crawl into a sewer and die!

Here lately, it seems that people come to this guestbook just to attack me.

Well, it's called Sports Sucks, so it's for people who hate sports and think that sports suck!

And I hate sports with a passion!

So, I don't have to be polite to drooling gutter-thugs like Drool McIntyre and sports sluts like Sarah who spreads her legs apart for monkey-boys, coming in here to the guest book just to criticize me.

This is the Sports Sucks forum and guest book, and NOT, the lets rip Fat Man apart forum!

NO! When it's 105 degrees outside, and I come in hot and thirsty, I don't feel it's right to be charged $3.25 just for a cup of water.

What if someone was severely dehydrated and collapsed on the floor? Would they still charge $3.25 just for some water.

Oh, I forget! Sports people don't believe in science or medicine, so instead of administering first aide to someone who has collapsed on the floor, they would probably rattle some beads over him and say some prayers, and go oogah! oogah! oogah!

Yeah! I hate morons who don't care if I live or die.

So, I want morons to die before they can get a chance to kill me!

Yeah! I'm a bigot!

I'm a big fat bitch!

OK?
Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

You sound just like a bigot. Do you realize what you've become? You're the mirror image of Samdaman.
Earl

I don't want to get along with morons!

I want to publicly humiliate them for being fuck-tarded morons!

OK, earlier this evening I was watching a program on The History Channel. It was all about Nikola Tesla one of our greatest American scientists.

Thanks to Nikola Tesla we have AC current lighting up our cities, and all kinds of modern technology, which would not be possible if it weren't for discoveries and inventions by Nikola Tesla.

But he ended up all alone in a small hotel room living in poverty. The only company he had during the last few years of his life were the pigeons that roosted on his 33rd floor window sill in New York city.

This is how our society treats intellectuals.

Oh! But some drooling retarded monkey-boy gets millions of dollars every year just for chasing a football.

An Astronomy or Physics professor in a university only gets paid about $80,000 per year.

But monkey-boy gets millions of dollars just for chasing a ball, and moronic sports fans all across the USA are willing to pay outrageous prices for tickets to the games.

No, I do not have to show any respect for people in sports.

Piss on sports and all the people involved in sports.

I don't have to be polite to morons.

Sport in our schools is responsible for the declining quality of education in the USA and responsible for the bullying of students in our schools.

No, I don't want to get along with morons!

I want all redneck sports-tarded morons to drink themselves to death on their cheap Buckhorn beer and die in their single-axle trailer homes.

I just want all moronic sports-tards to shut the fuck up and go die!!!

Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

"Can't we all just get along?"
Earl

Good evening Earl.

When Sarah said the following . . .

"Im also appalled by the almost abusive behavior that has been expressed by one member towards the employees at a sports center. It did not occur to them that these people are just trying to earn a living. What the hell did they do to deserve such treatment?"

I knew she was referring to me.

Sorry, but they were morons, and they should just get a job scrubbing toilets or bagging groceries instead of selling food and drink to people in a public establishment.

All sports people are morons.

I had to show them how it was not possible to reach the water fountain while sitting in my JAZZY power chair and how that discriminates against the handicapped, and that I shouldn't have to pay $3.25 dollars just for a cup of ice water while only "normal" people who could reach the fountain can get free water.

No, I don't believe that my view are extreme.

People should be treated like human beings, but only if they act like human beings.

Sports people act like animals, so I treat them accordingly, like animals! And some are dangerous animals that should be put in cages or hunted down and shot before they can hurt someone.

Sport people are morons who have no respect for those of us who are better educated, or for people with physical handicaps or for older people. Sports people like to bully us around.

Therefore, I have no respect for morons!

But I'm not in a position to physically kick their asses because I'm physically handicapped due to my arthritis.

So, I love to publicly humiliate morons and verbally rip them apart with words.

And they dare not attack me physically just because they can't think of anything clever to say in response, so they should just shut the fuck up and keep their slimy shit-coated hands to themselves, because if they do lay a hand on me, I'll just file charges and see to it that they are locked up so far away they won't be able to hear the dogs barking.

So, NO! I will not have any respect for morons, and I will public humiliate them at every possible opportunity.

In fact, I actually enjoy looking for reasons to publicly humiliate a moron!

It's what they deserve.

Fat Men
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

Admittedly, Fat Man's rhetoric is a bit extreme.

Earl

As a moderator of this small website, I must say that Sarah's message is the most polite critical reaction I've ever read. It was a pleasure for me to read it. She's obviously fair-minded. I appreciate her for being nice.

(By the way, thanks for the compliment, Sarah.)

To all visitors who read this message: Those of us who support this website do not all share the same views and attitudes. No one here speaks for all of us. Fat Man speaks for himself. His views do not represent the entire website.
Earl

In response to Sarah:

The people at the sports center were all a bunch of morons. I came in hot and sweaty. It was 105 degrees and I needed a drink of water. I have arthritis in my knees and ankles so I get around using one of those power chairs, my JAZZY 614 HD and I was unable to reach the water fountain.

Most public places have two fountains side by side with one down lower for people who are handicapped.

But NOT in a sports center.

And I didn't believe that I had to be charged $3.25 just for a cup of ice water.

Yeah, in a sports center, we cripples have to pay for a cup of water while only "normal" people can drink from the fountain for free!

I told them that if they didn't give me a cup of water free of charge, that I was going to go out to a public phone and dial 911 and have them all charged with discrimination.

So, they relented, and gave me a cup of ice water free of charge. I had to publicly shame and humiliate those morons in front of onlookers.

Last summer, the Don Haskins Sports Center requested that some bus stop benches in front be removed because it didn't look good to have those benches there.

Yeah! Like it doesn't look good to see elderly or disabled people sitting on benches in front of their precious SPORTS CENTER while waiting for a bus! Like, were suppose to stand at attention out of respect for sports!

FUCK IT!

This was before I got my JAZZY and I was still walking with a cane. I fought for 7 weeks arguing with the Sun Metro City Bus system and with the Don Haskins Sports Center to get those benches put back.

Sports people are Fascist Nazi scum who want to eliminate the elderly and the handicapped, even those who are far better educated than they are, they still want to exterminate, so that only jocks and sports fans will be allowed to live.

But then, most sports fans are redneck trailer trash with great big beer guts hanging down over their belts causing their pants to slide half-way down on their asses exposing their butt-cracks, and they just sit around in their single-axle trailer homes watching sports on their black & white TVs with coat hanger antennas, and beating the ever-living crape out of their wives and kids when their favorite football team loses the big game of the season.

So, trash like them very seldom live more than 40 or 50 years, and that's why sports people want us older people eliminated.

They're pissed off and jealous because intelligent and educated people live much longer while most ex-jocks are broken down human trash heaps when they're in their 50s, sitting on their plastic covered living-room couches, pissing in their pants and drooling as they sit in front of their expensive big screen TVs watching videos of their former glory days!

Also, jocks don't have any control over their bodies. You first of all, must have a brain in order to control your body.

This is why jocks roam about mindlessly like zombies looking for women to rape.

They just can't keep their rockets in their pockets!

Fat Man
El Fucking Paso, Texass The Banana Republic of the USA

I have to say that I respect the opinions of most people on this forum. Earl (?) is especially courteous in expressing his ideas.

Sadly, I've read some posts that make me feel sorry for the "stupid jocks." People who play sports professionally may not be entirely book smart, but they do have to know how to control their bodies and how to work in a team. That's a totally different kind of intelligence.

While I do agree that some athletes get special treatment, I do not agree that they are all stupid or bad people, which is an opinion that has been expressed here. It hasn't been expressed by everyone, but it's still an appalling opinion to see. I know good, intelligent people who play for college teams. One of my friends plays soccer for my university, and he's in engineering.

Im also appalled by the almost abusive behavior that has been expressed by one member towards the employees at a sports center. It did not occur to them that these people are just trying to earn a living. What the hell did they do to deserve such treatment?

I'm sorry, but I can't support your cause because of these few members. I can't agree with telling people they are stupid for liking something. That's just as sick and twisted as the stereotypical jock giving the stereotypical geek an atomic wedgie.

I wish every one of you the best in your cause.
Sarah <cunningire@aol.com>

Guess what Drew?? Yeah we are biased. You might even deduct that from the name of our forum. It's called "SPORTS SUCKS!" And, all the people in our little corner of the internet will always be that way. Most of the people here endured 12 years of bullying and having people be biased against us, only because we had different interests. Sorry we are a little slow to forgive unlike you, you "thick skinned" person.

My comment about him being self centered was petty, and that was all it was meant for. I still don't see anyway in the article where he is trying to help others to not repeat his mistakes.

I also liked how you just cherry picked my response and then accused me of refusing to give him credit, which i did twice in my post. You have to read all the words.

"On one hand the kid has finally become self aware. That happens to a lot of people, but not usually jocks, so he has my respect there."

and

"Kudos to him for finally waking up though. Maybe he can make something positive of his life."

Seems like you want us to give him credit for turning his life around but not credit for the harm he did. Guess you can't have it both ways.
rotten

Thanks for the compliments, Drew. But while I disagree (sometimes strongly) with some of the comments made by some (or many) of the supporters of this website, I will continue to support it because not all is good and well in the world of sport.
Earl

Alright Drew, I've got one question to ask you. Your recent comments on this guestbook show you to be somewhat of a genuine critic of this website. You do come up with good points and know what you're talking about. But if you wanted to be taken seriously, why the hell did you start spamming the fuck out of the forum pretending to be a sports hater? Seriously, what really was the point? You may be serious in what you're saying now but I'm still not 100% sure about taking you seriously after all that spamming.

Best regards,
i_like_1981 <i_like_1981@hotmail.co.uk>
England,

"Shut the fuck up Fat Man. You are a ridiculous waste of my time." No one is forcing you to read his posts or reply to them, that is your choice. If you feel your time is being wasted when reading and responding to his posts, you are just as responsible for it as he is.

I understand that he isn't the number one and only person responsible for the shooting, however, if it weren't for him and other bullies, the shootings certainly would have never happened, and I have a moral difficulty forgiving a person who I view as responsible for murder. There are plenty of other people who are directly and indirectly responsible for the Columbine shooting, many of them even more responsible than the drug addict (such as the other bullies, the shooter's parents, the school staff, the NRA (I truly hope someone robs Charlton Heston's grave and literally takes his gun from his cold, dead hands), and many others). However that doesn't mean he isn't responsible. And the reason why I said your argument could be used against you is that you seemed to be implying that no one deserves to have to go through what the Columbine bully went through, when it was in fact his fault that he went through it, and what I was implying is that he deserves to face consequences for his actions.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

EARL: Noted. Yeah I figured it was just a misinterpretation. Sometimes I feel like you are the only person here with their head on straight and can look at issues objectively. So many people here are blinded by their bad experiences and take on irrational, ignorant and biased opinions.
HUGEFAN: First off, I'm not implying that bully isn't responsible for his drug addiction and such.. so I don't see how you are turning my argument against me. Also, I'm not saying that this bully isn't at fault here for what happened at Columbine -- but it's a miniscule relative to what the actual shooters did. The issue here is that you are placing direct blame on those who contributed indirectly. It's just wrong to say that this kid was just as guilty for the shootings as the shooters themselves.
Drew McIntyre

Shut the fuck up Fat Man. You are a ridiculous waste of my time. You haven't said one thing that was in any way relevent to my previous post. I'm guessing you were trying to say that bullying fucked you up, so bullying is wrong. Well no shit, retard. You've missed my point completely. Now please, stop relating every. fucking. thing. in your life to your traumatic experience. We get it, you went through tough shit and it fucked you up. I understand that and you really don't need to explain it all the time. You need to get some serious mental help, my friend. It's impossible to have rational and thoughtful discussion with you. I can't believe you think your pathetic rambling is "serving me up". Fucking hell bro, go talk to a shrink and help him deal with your issues because they are clearly consuming you and preventing you from acting like a decent human being.
Drew McIntyre

Fuck you Drew McIntyre! Or is that Drool McIntyre? - I'm in a bad fucking mood tonight! I just broke one of my front teeth this afternoon. It is cracked and loose and I'm in a lot of fucking pain right now! I had a hard time chewing my food while eating my supper this evening and the pain is even worse now, so I just took 4 Aspirin and I'm sipping on a small shot of Vodka, swishing it around inside my mouth hoping that it will ease the pain. I'm living on SSI disability, and here in this donkey-fucking redneck state of Texas, my Medicare/Medicaid does not cover dental work for anyone over 18 so I may not be able to eat solid food anymore because of the pain. Oh! But some football player who has raped someone's daughter, and got off with just a slap on the wrist, and was given a FREE Hummer that he can park all day in a 15 minute parking zone, and never has to worry about having his vehicle towed away, nor even get a ticket, he can get free dental work so he can chomp down on T-bone and sirloin stakes, while I'm going to have to live on soup! You want to know why I'm living on disability? It's because of the years of bullying which eventually lead to my having an emotional breakdown and spending three weeks in a psychiatric ward where patients were often beaten by the ward attendants. I was 17 years old at the time, and one night I was beaten and raped by an older man! When I was seeking some kind of psychological help, none was forth coming, because back then, back in the 1970s nobody believe that a guy could get raped, so the shrink just prescribed tranquilizers and sent me home. It wasn't until recent years that I was finally diagnosed with PTSD, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. So, yeah! I admit I'm a bit fucked up in the head! OK? But I never turned to drugs because of it. I seldom drink, having a little bit of beer only once in a week, but I don't get drunk. That kid's stuff. When I was in school, I wanted to study science, but I was called a "fag" because I didn't care for sports. In the art class, some oil paintings I had been working on were destroyed. My science teacher was also the school's football coach who was too fucking busy coaching his team of pre-frontally lobotomized baboons to be teaching in the classroom, so instead, he would set up a movie projector, leaving us all sitting in the dark watching a bunch of stupid cartoons! But I wanted to learn science, and NOT watch retarded cartoons. So, I didn't learn jack-shit when I was in school. All we learned was how to fold paper footballs! When I think of where I could have been today, instead of where I'm at now, I just want to scream out into the night! sometimes, I still get flash-backs and bad dreams relating back to the time when I was beaten and raped. Oh, and please don't tell me to get over it! I have heard that kind of right-wing crapola over and over again and I'm damn sick and tired of it! My life is a perfect example of how bullying can destroy a person, and fuck up one's life for keeps! So, I don't give a flying fucking Hootenanny in Hell about how some sports-tarded jock named Jason suffers from the guilt he feels after bullying students in Columbine which lead to his getting drunk and doing drugs. I hope he has to live with that guilt for the rest of his fucking life! And so . . . . . if you have been a bully who has destroyed other people's lives, and you now feel guilty about it, and wish to beg forgiveness, well don't come to me! If it's absolution you seek then go see your pedophile priest or your butt-banging bishop!

FUCK YOU!!!
Fat Man

"With the opinions, behaviors and attitudes that the members of sportssuck.org have show, its no wonder why you guys were bullied." Now that's just a bad thing to say. I was bullied by people who I had never spoken to in my life, not based on any of my opinions, attitudes, and behaviours. I don't agree with communists about their political ideologies, and I think some claims/actions made my communists are outrageous, but I don't say to them "With the opinions, behaviors and attitudes that communists have show, its no wonder why you guys were killed in concentration camps in the Holocaust". In fact, if you don't agree with my opinions, behaviours, and attitudes, they were all largely shaped by the people who have treated me with immoral actions throughout my entire life. I'm sure some other members of the forum can honestly say the same.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Why yes, Hitler's parents were largely to blame for the Holocaust, he had a terrible father who abused him, and had it not been for his father's failure at parenting, Hitler likely would have never acted as he had. Of course that doesn't mean Hitler isn't to blame, he is still at fault, but that doesn't mean other people involved in his upbringing didn't also cause it. And if it weren't for Islam, 9/11 certainly wouldn't have happened. That doesn't mean that in general, Islam is a bad thing, as it has also contributed to the world in many ways, however it is an ignorant view to not believe that Islam had a large presence in 9/11. And in this case, the Columbine shooters would have never acted so without the "encouragement" from their bullies. It is an irrational ideology that can enable future problems to only view the person directly responsible for a crime to be guilty for it. We must also reflect upon the actions of the people who influenced that crime. In this case, the bullies influenced that crime, and if it weren't for them, the shooting certainly would not have happened. Those bullies must have known that every once in a while, treating others like shit and disregarding human rights would cause drastic actions occasionally. All actions have consequences, with the significance of the consequences based on the significance of the actions. Those bullies acted upon the Columbine shooters until they believed they had nothing left to live for and that the Columbine students were worthless people who didn't deserve to live. That bully is largely to blame for the death of 15 people, almost as much as the shooters, and I believe that he was a criminal who deserved punishment. Also, on top of that, your very own argument can be used against you. You are implying that mainly only the direct perpetrators are responsible for a crime. By that logic, the Columbine bully was responsible for his own drug addiction and problems of guilt. He chose to bully which eventually led to guild and drug addiction, and only he was responsible. I retract no statements I made.

HugeFanOfBadReligion
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Correction: Andy's website is thegridironpalace.com.
Earl

Hi, Drew. I wasn't implying that Jason didn't feel any guilt until he was undergoing treatment for his addiction. I knew he turned to drugs in the immediate aftermath of the massacre because he was overwhelmed with a sense of guilt for having previously bullied the two perpetrators. What I meant was that BEFORE the massacre he knew that bullying was wrong. Many of us do things that we know are wrong. Remember, the last comment that I made about him was that I wished him well.

You may not believe this, but never in my life have I hated anyone who ever did me wrong or wished him ill. And the reason why is because THAT IS NOT RIGHT. That's not the way I was raised by my parents, and I have always believed in some sort of moral code. Throughout the years I have been critical of certain individuals' actions, but I have never wished that any misfortune befall them. I certainly have had other moral failings in my life, but hatred of others has not been one of them. I believe in justice, but I don't believe in vengence.

And, of course, I agree with you that nothing justified the murders at Columbine, needless to say. Absolutely nothing. There now is some controversy about what drove the killers, and I think there probably will always be controversy about Columbine. They seem to have shot the other students indiscriminately. I've not done a lot of reading about Columbine, but I'm not sure if any of their victims had ever tormented them. One of the victims, whose father had set up a website in memory of his son, was even a stereotypical "nerd" -- a slightly built guy with black glasses who had excelled academically whose main interest was biology.

Each of the members of this forum speaks for himself. (Incidentally, not all of the currently active members of the forum posted in this particular thread.) There is not a party line that we follow. As I've said before, we're quite capable of having a split. Again, as I've said before to other people, please check Andy's first topic, which is entitled "Here to have a civilized debate." We had a major split. I even apologized at his website thegridironplace for the way he was treated.

I'm glad that you have communicated your criticism, as it certainly is valid. If you have a reaction to what I've just said, please leave another message.

Best wishes,
Earl
Earl

I checked up your page after a few weeks and saw the Columbine bully thread. I have to say that I am completely appalled by the posts there. As you know, I sometimes troll around, and as such I've got a pretty thick skin when it comes to outrageous things on the internet -- however this one made me want to scream out and throw my monitor out my window. Let's start with the first post by Earl where he said: "Jason had a conscience, which eventually caught up with him and enabled him to feel guilt." Are you implying he didn't feel guilt until recently, once he got help? I hope I am misinterpreting because if thats the case, then you are incredibly dense. He turned drugs because he had a MASSIVE amount of guilt and didn't know how to deal with it, obviously. Next is rotten's post: "He seems a bit self centered" Fuck off. How on Earth do you get that from the article? Because of the phrasing in one quoted sentence? Thats an awfully big conclusion to jump to. It seems to me that you are simply biased because he was a jock and a bully TEN YEARS AGO and you refuse to give him the credit that he is trying to turn his life around. It's petty thing to do, and you need to look at the situation objectively. Let's move on to HugeFanOfBadReligion's post. To say that this kid is as bad as the Columbine kids is simply ridiculous. Do you blame Hitler's parents for the Holocaust? Do you blame Islam for 9/11? Call me crazy, but I think the people responsible for the Columbine shootings are *gasp* the fucking shooters! Yes, they were bullied, but being bullied is NO EXCUSE for what they did. There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with situations, and the shooters dealed with their issues in the worst way imaginable. Bullying is certainly wrong, and this kid probably contributed to the shooter's frustration at society.. but how on Earth was this guy supposed to know that the weird kids he was picking on were going to shoot up a school? For you to feel satisfaction that this kid went through 10 years of a miserable life is abominable. You should feel ashamed of yourself. Lastly, Fat Man... oh boy... everything I said to HugeFan aplies to you tenfold. Unfortunately, you are one of the most unreasonable and intolerant people I have ever encountered on the web; you are everything the front page of this website says you guys aren't. Therefore, I refuse to even bother with you. I know the following sentence will get misinterpreted greatly, but I will say them anyways: With the opinions, behaviors and attitudes that the members of sportssuck.org have show, its no wonder why you guys were bullied. You guys make me ashamed for humanity.
Drew McIntyre

Thank you for the great comment Aaron.. Drum Corps is WAY TOO ADVANCED for any football player to understand...It is kind of like playing a musical instrument WHILE YOU PLAY FOOTBALL AT THE SAME TIME!!!....It will always piss me off how band guys always get made fun of while the football players do not... What I recall, I was workin my butt off in the percussion section at football games while the other players that were not on the field were just sittin there waitin for their time to play.. When you are in band.. YOU ALWAYS PLAY...

Another extremely difficult position that is ALWAYS OVERLOOKED=...College band director
Mike

Hello Aaron. I have a great amount of respect for marching bands and similar groups. I know they physically and mentally challenging. I myself am a musician and realize that it can be difficult depending on the music being played, and on top of that marching in a manner that requires a lot of physical energy to be exerted and requires knowledge to march in the correct patterns. That is quite impressive. I have definitely observed a stereotype not only among the highschool athletic community, but also in the media, that band members and similar people are "nerds", "geeks", "wimps", "pussies", and all those similar immature insults, and I know these stereotypes are completely incorrect and it is unfair to label band members such terms. To finish up, I'll say that I do not understand the views on band members by the athletic community, and I have a great amount of respect for marching band members and anything similar.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

I wanted to bring to light a competitive athletic event that most people have never heard of and thus never shows up in your forum discussions. It's an activity that requires significant mental and physical fortitude and yet, ironically, is looked down upon and shunned by the traditional jock mentality. I'm mentioning this for the sake of discussion. I'm referring to the pageantry arts:

Marching band
Winter guard
Indoor percussion
Drum and Bugle Corps

If you've never had the opportunity to see, hear, or even know what a drum corps is I implore you to check out the Drum Corps International homepage at www.dci.org and search YouTube for some videos of corps performances (I recommend Santa Clara Vanguard 1989, The Cavaliers 1995, The Cavaliers 2006, and Phantom Regiment 2008). I'll give a quick crash course:

Drum corps is a music and movement activity. Shows consist of around 11.5 minutes of performance involving demanding music and drill. A study done on a marching percussion player noted that for the 11.5 minute performance the moving members averaged the heart rate of a marathon runner at full stride. You're traveling at high speed, sometimes at huge step sizes, and carrying large pieces of metal or throwing rifles/sabres/flags into the air. At the same time you're recalling some 200 pages of drill and 11 minutes of music. But you can't just remember the music. We're musicians, we have to PLAY the music, put emotion into it, make it GOOD.

I myself marched with Spirit Drum and Bugle Corps in 2005. From an athletic standpoint it was a fantastic endeavor. I lost a lot of weight, gained good muscle tone, and gained a LOT of stamina. As a brass player, while basically running around the field for ten minutes, I can't breathe at my leisure. Running a mile and running a mile when you have to breathe in for one second and out for thirty are not remotely close when it comes to difficulty. I also grew as a musician. The techniques and teaching I learned/received from the staff have carried me as a player to this day. I grew as a person, too. From the camaraderie to the worth ethic to the goal setting I grew up a lot during the course of a 3 month season. It was an experience that I would never trade for anything.

I wanted to share this because drum corps as well as the other pageantry arts are in a strange place when it comes to the Sports Rule/Sports Suck discussion because, well, it takes athletic skill but the jocks don't want us and, quite frankly, we don't want them. I received less criticism in high school playing tennis than I did being in the marching band. Something I'll never understand about the world.

If I've piqued your interset in the drum corps activity I'd love if it you'd shoot me an email. I love spreading the word of this great activity to all the "drum corps uneducated" folks out there and don't worry, there are a lot of you. ;)

Aaron
Mellophone player, drum corps enthusiast, and Alabama football fan
Aaron <steelfalcon2001@gmail.com>
Tuscaloosa, AL USA

I support you! Sport sucks!
Mladjan <kondormit@gmail.com>
Belgrade, Serbia Serbia

I think George was just pulling our leg, and as a sucker I fell for it.
Earl

Hi, George. Needless to say, I share your repugnance to the brutal Communist movement, which has claimed the lives of 100 million people since the Bolsheviks seized power in Petrograd in 1917. I understand your negative reaction to certain images presented on a few pages of this website, but you're mistaken about our intentions. (I also must say, to be frank, that I'd never paid much attention to any of this imagery.) This website does not promote any totalitarian ideology, I assure you. The images are just hype. I'm sure this is not the only time that a group of people have borrowed imagery from a movement that was totally unlike and unrelated to their own. And as HugeFanOfBadReligion says, many revolutions had taken place long before Karl Marx' time.

Sportssuck.org is not a political website. Two or three members of the forum may express their own political views, but they speak only for themselves. There is not a "party line" here, not even on issues related to sports. And I can assure you that no one here is a Communist. That would be absurd. The members of the forum have different political views ranging from liberal to conservative. For example, I voted for Senator McCain in the last Presidential election. One of our members has told me privately that he is a Libertarian. One of the creators of this website, who prepared the home page and the schools section, happens to be a conservative Republican who is an avid supporter of the Tea Party movement. I assume he thought that confrontational images would be more likely to make more of an impression. The point is that he was not trying to promote Communism.

If you would take the time to check the forum posts (not to mention other features), you would find that there's absolutely nothing that promotes Communism; and, again, that's because this website is not political. Not to mention that we are all opposed to any brutal totalitarian movement.

In a number of posts, I've referred to the Swedish humanitarian Raoul Wallenberg as an example of a very courageous nonathletic man who, in the words of his half-sister, "detested competitive team sports." Wallenberg was one of the more prominent foreigners who was victimized by Stalin's secret police in what has to be one of the most unjust fates that anyone has ever suffered. A website promoting Communism would not allow Wallenberg's hideously unjust fate to even be mentioned.

I hope that I've given you some reassurance that we're not screaming Communism.
Earl

You know, revolutions didn't originate from communism. They came millennia before Marx did. Also, who cares how a message is spread? As long as the cause is just and no one is harmed, there is nothing wrong with similarities between one ideology and a completely different ideology in terms of how it is promoted. Sure, we compare the nonathletic to the lower class or proletariat, and we compare the jocks to the upper class or bourgeoisie, but in communism, the idea is that everyone is equal economically and no one possesses anything, but our idea here is that you can still accomplish things and achieve more than others have, but you shouldn't have to face adversity due to the lack of athletic ability. Well, that's mostly my reason to support this site, but everyone has a different reason, so I can't speak for others. But like I said, our cause is completely different, and isn't that all that matters?
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Oh I believe your portrayal is very much like communism, allow me to make an easy to read list.

1. I see a very commonly used logo of a fist raised in the air on your site, a raised fist is a commonly associated with revolution, which is what communism is based off of.

2. Your link to come into the chat room invites you to join "Comrades."

3. You have a manifesto.

4. Just LOOK at the banner picture you have in the schools section, its clearly based on Communist Chinese propaganda. Here, see a link to another picture. It also has the word REVOLUTION very clearly on it.

http://www.newint.org/features/2004/09/01/historypic.jpg

5. The entire schools section seems dedicated to pointing out how the vast majority of students (the proletariat) are oppressed by, in your exact words "the ruling class" (bourgeoisie.

Let me quote several things from your own site.

"For far too long we have labored under the crushing weight of state-endorsed sports-obsession. For too long we have suffered from the oppression of the elitest athletic groups in our schools"

"It's time to end this insanity and take back our schools NOW!"

"privileged class" (Interesting choice of word "class")

"To keep the masses indoctrinated..." (Sounds very much like Lenin)

"The first step in the battle against sports is publicly acknowledging your indifference to the big game" " The next time you're approached to participate in the office football pool, just say NO! The next time some dullard approaches you and says, "how 'bout them dawgs?", just look them straight in the eye and say, "I don't know what the heck you're talking about! I don't watch sports!". Just say NO!"

http://spaliuke.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/curranposter4.jpg

This entire site screams Communism. How could you not see that unless you put it there purposely? I agree with the message, but you've lost my support.

George <firebird270@gmail.com>

Thanks so much. Finally a site I can relate to!
Sera <riddlersgirl@gmail.com>
Garden Grove, CA 92843

George, can you please elaborate? How does this website resemble communist ideals? Do you believe that our cause is similar to communism, or that the way we portray our cause is similar to the propaganda of communism? If you believe our cause is portrayed the way that communism was exploited in communist places such as the Soviet Union, the People's Republic of China, North Korea, Cuba, or another communist nation? Because if you are referring to how our cause is portrayed, most ideologies use the same tactic as propaganda so I don't see how it could be only similar to communist propaganda.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Sports... sometimes i can't help but wonder... why are they so special? Like so many other people on this site I just don't know what the big deal exactly is. I also don't know why not being interested in sports means that one is classed as being unable to socialize, weird, or any of that bullshit. Just makes me wonder.
Robert <rjones4612@gmail.com>

*bare
George <firebird270@gmail.com>
Seattle, WA USA

I really dislike sports, but your website and message bear a disturbing similarity to communism, very similar.
George <firebird270@gmail.com>
Seattle, WA USA

Good, Drew. You've finally made an intelligent, relevant comment on here. Nice work.

But I don't think you should be allowed back on the forum. When you come to a website pretending to be a legit member and then proceed to fill the forums up with stupid shit to irritate people, you are banned. And normally the ban is not negotiable, as you've lied and wasted people's time in a hope of having a laugh for yourself. Your Guestbook comment is intelligent, but there are several comments on this Guestbook which appear to be from legit members but have really just been submitted as a ploy to distract people from the truth. You're probably not stupid in real life. But you pissed around on the forums and a ban was deserved. You were offered a discussion several times and refused to take this offer up in favour of putting up more stupid "chosen one" comments. I don't think you should be allowed back on.

If your motive was really sincere you would have shown it on the forums. But I strongly doubt that. Many a troll has deceived us in the past by sounding intelligent and civil. I doubt you're any different.

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England

Good post, Drew.
Earl

I am so tired of sports and the stupid hype surrounding them, all I'm hearing about now in my office is how awful it is that the USA have gone out of the World Cup. big damn deal! Whenever somebody would come up to me and ask "How 'bout dem Tigers?" or some other stupid shit, I'd just respond by saying "WHAT DAMN TIGERS! ALL I SEE IS A BUNCH OF MORONS RUNNING AROUND A RECTANGULAR SHAPED COURT!" or whatever. Yeah. Sports bore me to death. Thank God I found people who agree with me.
Gareth

Then I'll just post here if you guys won't unban me.

In response to Fat Man's recent post in the "Sports are good for you..." thread:

I agree that those prices are pretty ridiculous for water. However what you claim you would do if refused water is equally ridiculous. First off, no one is refusing anyone anything, they are requiring you to pay for it -- theres a difference. Let's say for arguments sake that they are refusing to give you water. Pretending to go into shock is not a very good way to go about correcting this situation. It's essentially wasting their time and wasting an ambulance's time that could be devoted to a real emergency. Crying wolf is never good. Secondly you wouldn't be able to sue them for your "pain and suffering" because you weren't in pain or suffering -- at least not enough to put your life at risk. If you were sent to the emergency room they would catch on to your charade rather quickly and tell you to leave. In fact, you might get sued for fraudulently calling an ambulance. If someone is refusing you water, as in they are refusing you and only you, then you could probably have a strong case for discrimination but faking an emergency is not only stupid it's also morally wrong.
Drew McIntyre

So you think you can troll this forum, get banned, and get back in, do you? That's quite silly. You should have made your rational posts while you had our trust and stayed that way, instead of pulling all that stupid shit with us before you wanted to post rationally. I don't believe you'll even be able to post rationally if your stupid enough to troll us, get banned, and then want to post seriously. If it was up to me, I'd never lift your ban. Of course, it's not up to me, but I really hope it doesn't get lifted anyway.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

No offense, 81, but I don't think that's your decision to make
Drew McIntyre

Ah, so we're going to just lift your ban immediately, are we? Because we have every confidence you're not going to start spamming the forum again with your "chosen one" rhetoric once the ban's been lifted.

Sorry Drew. If you were sincere you would have introduced yourself to the forum that way. But I strongly doubt you are. I don't know how many people have tried this before - spamming a forum, getting banned and then begging to be let back on the day after claiming to be sensible next time. Whether you get away with it or not is not up to me. You'll probably be allowed back on, I don't know why. Personally I think you're just here to waste people's time.

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England

If you unban me I'll post seriously. The Drew McIntyre gimmick got old anyways -- not enough material. I understand if you won't though.
Drew McIntyre

If you haven't been approved in a day or two, I'll be sure to let the forum Admin know.
Earl

Thanks Earl. I have registered but I still can't post. I hope to be approved soon.
Drew McIntyre

Hi, Drew. Thanks for your interest in our website. I'm one of the forum moderators. What had happened was that access to the forums was temporarily denied. We've had a problem with trolls lately; so, the forum Admin may have restricted access briefly. As a moderator I had nothing to do with it. Access has now apparently been restored. Please try again. We're always glad to have new members, as long as they're not trolls or abusive. Again, welcome.

Earl

Hello. I found this site yesterday and want to join but it seems as if the forums are no more. What happened??
Drew McIntyre

In response to Random Dude:

Yeah, those are good reasons to hate sports. 42 of 'em!

I could probably think of a thousand reasons (or more) to hate sports, but trying to list them all would make me sick and want to up-chuck!

It's not the sport itself, but rather, the cultural mystique that revolves around sports, like it's the most important thing in all the cosmos, which of course, it is not!

It's like, sports has become the sun around which all the worlds revolve.

The typical rude obnoxious jock, he thinks (assuming jocks can think at all) that he is the master of all he surveys, but the typical jock is only a worm, an insect, a dung beetle, batting away at his little ball of muck, and fooling himself that he trundles the sun!

And most athletic coaches are just a bunch of unimaginative, business-as-usual, seven-carbon sons of bitches who can go take a jump at a galloping goose or a flying fuck at the moon as far as I'm concerned.

In the cosmic scheme of things, they are of no greater significance than some poor old drunken Skid Row bum passed out is some dark back alley somewhere.

Oh! My God! Me thinks I wax poetic!!!

Fat Man
El Paso, TX USA

42 REASONS TO HATE SPORTS:
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1. They are boring
2. Sports is watched by retarded people with no lives or hobbies.
3. The jocks & cheerleaders think they are better than everyone else.
4. Video games are much more fun
5. It's the reason why Americans are so stupid when it comes towards math & science
6. I rather watch the Discovery or History Channel.
7. I rather watch COPS, AMW, or some other show with some substance.
8. The dumb athlete gets "special treatment" from his school to go to a college when he doesn't even make good grades. C'mon how's that even fair to the rest of us?
9. Public schools value sports more than academics, when it is the academics that will get you a good job. WTF!
10. All professional sports are fake! By fake, I mean they take steroids, do drugs, etc. People in this profession make horrible role models.
11. Sports fans are PEDOPHILES! Why? Because they go to the games to see little 15 yrs old cheerleaders dance in mini-skirts & belly shirts. Sports fans are perverted.
12. Cheerleaders are mean, snobby, slutty women who need to die!!!
13. I rather read a book
14. Jocks are faggots. They love to pick on the nerds & try to "molest" them. I can't believe sports fans look up to these people!!!
15. Majority of idiots are sports fans
16. Get a REAL hobby sports fags!!!
17. Sports fans enjoy humiliating the social outcasts.
18. Majority of sports fans & sports players are complete assholes.
19. Does the game mean that much to you? Wow! Your pathetic.
20. Martial Arts is the only sport I have respect for.
21. The majority of sports fans & sports players are bullies.
22. Sports programs ruin my Sunday & Saturday evenings because when I want to see The Simpsons or COPS, it doesn't come on because some dumb football game is on. Where's my favorite show?
23. Playing sports won't get a good job. The chances of being a professional athlete is like 1 to 1000. Those odds aren't in your favor.
24. You go to school to LEARN, not play or watch a guy kick/throw a ball on the field!
25. People choose their colleges based on the football team. Uhh...that's not a good idea. Just because a school is popular, doesn't mean it's a good school. Look at Texas A&;M! Their engineering program is the WORST I have ever seen.
26. I hate girls who are sports fans. I just do! They have no lives & aren't worth my time.
27. In high school, those annoying prep allies ruined my concentration. I want to study! Not watch the school's football team ruin my learning.
28. I hate being FORCED to go to prep rallies. Not everyone is a brainwashed sports fag.
29. Cheerleaders end up fat after high school/college & the football players end end bald & fat.
30. Jocks are the assholes of every sports. They aren't considered Athletes, because Athletes actually respect people & aren't assholes like jocks.
31. Sports video games are a abomination to all sports & video games.
32. Suck my cock if you disagree with these points
33. Playing with balls makes you look gay LOL
34. Most jocks make horrible boyfriends
35. Cheerleaders make horrible girlfriends
36. Many sports fans are UNSPORTSMANLIKE! Even on the field.
37. It's just a game! Not a matter of life or death dumb-asses
38. Sports fans like to degrade those who don't like sports by calling them "unmanly", "weird", or name calling. Apparently sports fans don't understand people have different tastes.
39. We don't hate sports because we aren't good them, we hate them because they are uninteresting.
40. Sports fans suck at math & science. Watching sports can make you dumb.
41. Sports fans are lazy
42. Suck my cock if you don't agree with these points!
randomDude <sdfasdf@yahoo.com>
Your Mom, KY USA

In response to Mike:

Yeah, I guess sports fans would much rather watch a bunch of tall skinny guys in baggy loose shorts jumping around butting a ball through a metal hoop, or football fans would rather watch a bunch a moronic monkey-boys in tight pants chasing an oval-shaped ball. And they call us fags???
Fat Man
El Paso, TX USA

I had a really good time last night at a local bar here in town. While all of the sports freaks were watching the basketball game, I met and had a great conversation with a hot blonde chick that was sitting at the bar that nobody (too busy watching the game) was talking to. I find it hilarious how when it comes down to it, the sports freaks would rather shout and yell at a TV than talk to a hottie..
Mike

I can't believe how many people have truly convinced themselves that sports matter. Not to mention the violence perpetrated in sport's name. Sounds familiar...
Mac
TX USA

Ahh. kindred spririts. How refreshing....I am the bullied spouse of a footbal fan. I hate footbal.
Johnny Doodads

In response to Who Cares:

Quote:
"Wow. Fat Man now hopes all fans of sports get cancer. I thought that he "listens and learns from his mistakes". That guy is trash, and that how more you give him free reign to spew his bigotry the less credible your site becomes."
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Actually I was only kidding.

It was in response to a stupid one-line comment by SensibleSportsman concerning an earlier post I had made on a previous page in a forum topic.

He said "This post gave me cancer." YEAH RIGHT!

So, I suggested that we all make more anti-sports posts in the hopes that all sports fans would get cancer from reading them and wither away and die in their single axle trailer homes.

It was a joke! Yes, a stupid joke! But a joke nonetheless.

Come on now! Like, seriously! Does anybody believe that a person can get cancer just from reading something???

I certainly don't!

Now maybe a sports fan or a jock will go insane if you put him in a round room and tell him to go sit in a corner.

And a jock or sports fan will lose a night's sleep and go nuts trying to spell C-A-T.

But nobody gets cancer just from reading something.

So, when NonsensicalSportsman said that reading one of my posts gave him cancer, naturally I feel like saying "GOOD! I hope more sports fans and jocks read my posts!"

But there is really no danger of that happening because just reading something will not give you cancer. OK?

Also, most jocks and sports fans can't even read anyway, at least not beyond the 2ed grade lavel.

In fact, most can't even find their way back out of their own socks!

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CAUTION: The Surgeon General warns that reading any Internet forum posts by Fat Man may cause you to get cancer.
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YEAH RIGHT!!!

Fat Man <gerald1951@sbcglobal.net>
El Paso, TX USA

I have to agree with "who cares" that wishing genocide is completely beyond the pale.
Earl

Expressing disdain for sports is one thing, but wishing genocide is a completely different thing. It's a shame that you can't see the difference, 1981.
who cares

Hmmm... I wonder how much success I'd have if I went onto a sports forum and asked them to ban their most active member because he had some extreme views against non-sports enthusiasts like myself? Somehow I doubt I'd be showered with acceptance and agreement. I'm sorry, but hard as you may try, you're not going to get Fat Man banned. I personally haven't agreed with some of the statements made in his recent posts but the fact stands that this is an ANTI-SPORTS forum where the members are entitled to let off the steam that has been put in them through the negative side of sports culture, so it's not a gross breach of our forum's ideology or rules. Oh sure, it would be an instant ban on any other forum but look at the site name. SPORTS. SUCK. Bound to be some extreme comments here? You don't like them? Well, I advise you to leave this site because if they're going to be anywhere on the internet, they will be here. That is all I have to say.

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England

Wow. Fat Man now hopes all fans of sports get cancer. I thought that he "listens and learns from his mistakes". That guy is trash, and that how more you give him free reign to spew his bigotry the less credible your site becomes.

And before you give me that crap about how he "doesn't represent all of us": By allowing him to continue posting you are guilty by association. By not deleting his posts or banning him you are essentially saying it's okay to express those vile and disgusting thoughts. Wishing cancer upon millions of people is okay but god forbid anyone makes a case that sports are a good thing! Your website is a complete joke.
who cares

http://www.puppetgov.com/2010/06/09/america%e2%80%99s-bread-and-circus-society/
Bell depress vu

Sports are so damn bad it's unbelievable! What inspires huge crowds of people to go mad just because their team has lost a game! It's not even like they know anyone on the team. To be honest, I think it would do the world a lot of good if professional sports were to be eradicated completely! All they do is make people go insane over nothing! And as far as compulsory sports in schools go... don't get me started! I fail to see how teaching people to throw a ball better or run around with one is called "education"! It's a total joke! I failed to understand the big deal about sports in the first place, and I still do now! It's just stupid! Like who died and made sports God?
Tom <thetacticaltom@yahoo.com>

Tell me Nick, if you wanted to be taken seriously by us, why did you create a false identity to use on the forums and lie to us? Was there really anything to gain from that apart from doing it "for teh lulz"? If you want a serious discussion now, have one, but now that you've done that and thrown another load of crap at us I'm not sure taking you seriously is a good idea.

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England

P.S. I did not create this website. I had absolutely nothing to do with the main page. I would have taken a different approach.
Earl

Now we're communicating.

Are you referring to the way that I reacted towards you in the forum?
Earl

Hi, Nick. Yes, I did say that I was going to be very busy today; but I have time to leave a relatively brief message. As long as you don't troll, I'd be delighted to converse with you for the sake of understanding each other.

First of all, perhaps the reason why this website seems ambiguous to you is because we (the forum members who defend this website) are not all of the same mind. We don't think alike. You almost seem to think that we're practicing groupthink here, but I can assure you that we're not doing that. For a group of people that is so small, we're actually quite diverse.

I need to ask you a question. When you say that "what he is saying is the exact opposite of what he is doing," who is the "he" to whom you are referring? Are you referring to me, or are you referring to Fat Man or someone else? If we are to communicate, you and I must understand what the other means. Otherwise, we'll just talk past each other and possibly end up yelling at each other. So, I need to know to whom you are referring here.

You ask why should we spend time talking about sports if we don't like them. Why not? Political liberals don't like political conservatives, but they sure spend a lot of time talking about them. And vice versa. People let off steam about all sorts of concerns. So, I don't get your point here. I will assume that you're not just trying to shut us up.

Perhaps the leading reason why I talk about sports is because I recognize that the traditional sports-centered approach to physical education has failed nonathletic students miserably. There are P.E. coaches and former P.E. coaches who make this claim themselves, and they are right. What nonathletic boys and girls need to do is to get on an exercise program, instead of being forced to participate in competitive team sports in mandatory P.E. I realize that there have been some changes since I was required to take sports-centered P.E. through junior high, and I am thankful for those changes. But as Coach Tim McCord (a leading proponent of the innovative PE4Life program) personally informed me in an e-mail, the old P.E. is still with us, meaning that way too many school districts still have the same tired approach that does not promote physical fitness for all students. I hate to see kids go through the same negative, pointless experience that I went through when I was a teenager. In other words, this issue is relevant TODAY.

As they say, the floor is yours. Remember that my purpose is not to debate you. I want to communicate and not yell.
Earl

I completely agree with you, HugeFan. To be honest, what annoys me about this site is how ambiguous it is.

MAIN PAGE: RAAAWR OVERSTATEMENTS!! I WAS BULLIED 30 YEARS AGO BUT NOW I HAVE A WEBSITE OUT FOR REVENGE RAAAAAH!!!11

FORUM:
At first it was like: Oh, we're actually here for civilized debates. Srry lol
But THEN... : RAAAAAH!!!

You get m'point. What I was pointing out in my last paragraph is that what he is saying is the exact opposite of what he is doing.

And also, I was pointing out that if you guys hate sports so much, why do you spend so much time talking about them? You're practically sports FANATICS.
Nick

Nick, I will make a lengthy response to your message in a few days. Being a family man, I happen to be rather busy at the moment with pressing responsibilities. Please be patient. I will respond to you.
Earl

Nick, you are correct. This site is biased. But that is the same with many forums. It's like having a fan page of something that allows people to join that have no interest in whatever the subject of the forum is, because the point of the forum is to offer a place for people with a certain viewpoint. This viewpoint happens to be against sports. Of course we'd prefer to talk with people who we agree with on the subject rather than jocks or trolls, because we came to this site because it is one of the few places there are were you can find others who dislike sports without being ridiculed or assaulted by others. However, now trolls and sports bores visit here, and that ruins the purpose of having the site. That's why this site is more fair to people who share the same viewpoint of the site. It's supposed to be a safe haven for non athletic people, a rest from a world that is seemingly based on sports.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Also, I did not mean to imply that you're the only one who has failings. It's the whole staff. I almost feel like Fat Man complaining to Girlvinyl and thinking she made everything on ED.
Nick

You would never support an 'I hate jocks' site... but you allow posts saying that sports players and the fans who are entertained by them should be lined up and shot. You allow death threats. Your members grossly exaggerate facts and rage that a school would DARE show that it has beaten another in athletic ability. If you truly don't support 'I hate jocks' websites, then why do you support this one? Whenever a true non-troll appears, if he is in favor of sports you allow your members to cuss him out. Instead of deleting posts and locking threads (you allowed a thread named 'Nick the Prick' to stay active) the moderators ignore your own rules and only enforce them against those with opposing viewpoints. Then you sit on the sidelines as Fat Man, a victim of bullying, plays out his fantasies of bullying people a quarter of his age. Instead of reining him in, he is allowed free reign himself. He is practically a moderator. I caught flak for quoting him -insulting me- because I was pointing out the fact that he is a bully. Until you and the rest of the moderating staff start cleaning up your board, I highly doubt that you have any problems with the phrase 'I hate jocks.'

Of course, you'll probably ignore my wisdom and delete this guestbook comment, because that's how this site rolls. You wanted a debate, here you go.

And also, if your board is for people uninterested in sports, why is so much space taken up by sports-related posts? 6/8 of your boards are about sports. This is more of a 'complain about sports and talk about teenage fantasies of killing people' than a community of people who don't like sports. That is also why trolls continue milking this lol-cow of a website.

Nick Trano signing off.
Nick

Well, Nick, after deleting the next to the last message of yours, I bit. I give up. Unfortunately, you're making some valid charges; but your motivation is wrong. You probably would like to see this website hacked. Actually, Fat Man is probably the only reason you came to this website. I was going to delete all your Guestbook messages, but I've changed my mind. At the same time that you're a pest, you're also actually amusing in a way. Yes, I must admit that's a compliment. So, you can continue to play your little game. I think that one or more of the other members might actually be enjoying this little tit for tat.

I did not create this website, and I do not agree with every statement that has been made in the forum and elsewhere at this website. I'm almost getting tired of being a moderator. The main reason I've continued to do so is because I've established friendships with some of the active forum members, plus I think there should be a website for people who simply are not interested in sports. Since several good friends of mine are former school athletes, I would never support a website that was simply an "I hate jocks" website.

Fat Man does not represent me. He speaks for himself. I have no problem with "an individual who enjoys watching sports on TV after a hard day's work supporting their family."

Have fun, Nick.
Earl

Sorry, I messed up on deleting part of my last post (when I was quoting the bishop) before it was posted.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

"Pretending to be God and parroting his power of creation is an enormous risk that can plunge men into a barbarity... (Scientists)should never forget that there is only one creator: God."

- Bishop Domenico Mogavero on creating synthetic life

"(Scientists)should never forget that there is only one creator: God."

-Bishop Domenico Mogavero on creating synthetic life

There is not one ultimate view on the subject Nick. It would be naive for anybody to think that there is a unanimous opinion on the subject, whether it is in support or against the creation of synthetic life.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Thank you, Earl. Of course, Fat Man then went on to attempt to drive me to suicide. I find that incredibly impolite. I expected one who has had such harsh experiences with bullying in the past would not be so quick to stoop to their level. Fat bitch or no, insulting someone's religion, lying and copypasting the same post multiple times changing a few words around each time (rape story copypasted OVER 9000 times) should not be considered reasonable contributions to any forum. He is offensive, anti-catholic, and anti-gay (as shown by his many homo-bashing remarks) and yet he is allowed to stay. He has far exceed the (ironic) three strikes. In my opinion, he is far worse than an individual who enjoys watching sports on TV after a hard days' work supporting their family.
Nick

I hadn't read the synthetic life topic. If I had, I would have recognized James as a 4chan troll and banned him immediately.

I've done you an undeserved favor, Nick. I did this for the sake of Catholic readers who might be offended by Fat Man's post. (Actually, I'm relieved. I was afraid that it might be worse than it was.) Even though you were banned from the forum, I've copied and pasted your objection to that topic. Now, whether your motive was sincere, I'll let the reader decide.

Nick, you're not supposed to be here. I don't think I'll bite the next time. If you're a guest in someone's home where you're rude or you act up, you're told to leave. That's what you've done at this website. So, go play somewhere else.
Earl

In the synthetic life topic. First he lied and said the church opposed the synthetic life (they released a statement in favor of it) then he shared his fantasy of defacating on the pope. Gross.
Nick

Where did he insult Catholicism?
Earl

You guys really need to reign Fat Man in. I just noticed him insultibg catholicism. That's really offensive. For someone who is so against bullying, he seems fond of it.

As the Channer said, you're all just. Like. Us.

Kthxbai
Nick

Funny, but i_like_1981 said just as much in a recent post of his. Of course, you would never give us credit for being right about anything. Nick, you're still irritating. Since you had been banned from the forum, I had resolved just last week to start deleting your messages from the Guestbook; but I decided to not delete your latest comments. Oddly enough, your comments here have generally been slightly more intelligent and less irritating than your comments in the forum. I just wish you weren't playing games. ;)
Earl

You know if you guys changed the main page you would seem a little less dickish to people, right? (Until they meet Gerald St. Germaine, that is...)
Nick

That's such a great argument David. I am so intimidated. Now I think that sports are the ultimate way of life and that I will now join a sports team and pick on the people who excel academically. Thanks for showing me the truth in life that sports really are the most important thing of all time.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Also thanks for calling me clever.
Nick

So was it the really obvious sarcasm, the hidden I AM NICK message, or the mistake of not turning wifi from my cell phone off that gave me away?

At first I was all like LOL but then I got bored with a character I instantly disliked. Also, I didn't change my way of speaking enough. I tried the frantic teenage angst that's so prevalent on this board but I couldn't make it work for myself. I'll admit I failed epicly there... but I'm not the one with the board that claims to be civil and doesn't even follow its own rules, am I? :) Well, I just hope you don't catch my original.
Nick

David, you probably won't visit this website again; but I'll say this, anyway: I can understand why you would be offended by this website, but those of us who support it do not all think alike. We have different points of view and have sometimes even disagreed with one another in the forum. At least several of us actually don't hate sports. I consider myself to be a critic of the sports culture, which is not the same as hating sports. Even though I'm not a sports fan, I have no problem with sports as a form of recreation. I'm not a gamer, and for about two years I've been working out at a health club on a bodybuilding program. I_like_1981 started working out at a local gym about a month ago. And I'm not very computer literate either.
Earl

HAHAHAHA WOT A LOAD OF FAGGOTZ! YOUR ALL SUCH A BUNCH OF GAYZ I CUD KICK DA SHIT OUT OF YALL! HUHUHUHUH CHEK OUT ME AN MAH HOT GF! SHE BETTA DEN ANYFIN U CUD GET U FUCKIN TECHIE! MY NAME DAVE AND I HEAD JOCK! YOUR SITE IS CRAP!

Is that all you got, Dave? Really? Oh yeah, sorry, you're so right. We MUST be retarded because we don't like sports. We MUST all be pathetic losers because we don't like chasing balls around or watching other people chase balls around. Yeah, how right you are. Silly me. Thanks for showing me the light. Now if you don't mind, I need to go stock up on beer, food, and a bunch of other morons for DA BIG GAME TONITE! WOOOT!

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England

What is wrong with sports you retards!?!? You guys are just a bunch of stupid gamers who sit around wasting your time and getting fat and lazy. Wow.. this website is pathetic.
David
Caldwell, ID United States

I can't stand people who follow sports religiously. It's an unhealthy obsession that needs to stop.
Person McMan

If anyone falls for that guy, I will laugh my ass off. *patiently awaits Fat Man's rage post after he bricks his computer*.
Nick

Hello Sporthaters!
Thank you for a wonderful sporthate website. I love this website
Please support my swedish sporthate club, you can support We dont like sport by join. Please click on "gå med" link in my website. Taht means "Join"
Soon i release my sporthate website in english, so everyone can understand.
Please support.

With love from Christian
URL: www.wix.com/avskysport/vi-som-avskyr-sport
Christian <nutte_arvidsson@hotmail.com>
Sweden

Okay thanks, I'll see you all then.
Turudes <Sedurut@ymail.com>

We'd be delighted to have you as a member. Please be patient. The admin who handles new accounts (Skul) sometimes is busy with his job in real life. Don't worry. You will be cleared.
Earl

I'm glad to finally find this place. One of my friends told me about it. I hate sports, you wouldn't believe the shit athletes get away with at my school!!!

Anyways I just made an account... how long does the verification take?
Turudes <Sedurut@ymail.com>

>my face when 1981 gets trolled hard by john copypasta then tries to brag about his response to it, even though he knows its copypasta
asd

The worst example of a moral coward on these forums would be "Captain America". Goes and stirs up all that trouble and abuse on his thread and never comes back to consider any responses. Man, I hate that guy. His post was three years before I found this website. I still hate him.

By the way, Nick, what did you think of my response to "john"? I have to admit, that message got me so mad. His self-important face on that photo and slutty girlfriend reminded me of one of my old enemies from high school. After typing out my rather emotionally-charged response to his post I smashed my computer desk twice with my fist and roared at the screen. True dat.

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England

"It's funny because none of you have been in highschool for at least two decades" What the hell? What are you smoking? I'm in high school, and so are many other members here. I know for a fact that there are still immature jocks who pick on others at high school. Think before you post.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Nick, I was at high school from the years of 1992 to 1997, so your presumptions about all the members here having not been to high school in at least 20 years are wrong. Yes, back in the mid-90s things were slightly different. There wasn't so much technological chitchat. Mobile phones were only just starting to become commercially popular, the Internet was not a great deal more than just text and a few pictures (we hadn't got Facebook then, THANK GOD, I'd have probably received further grief for being the only person not to have one), computers were pretty crap and slow compared to what we have now and as for iPods... well, there was none of them. Walkmen were in back then but they were banned from our school due to all the scumbags stealing them. Nonetheless, I had one - didn't bring it in, though. That would have been a bad idea. But the way I see it is, there have always been intolerant and cruel students around whose attitudes simply stink and this will never change. There will always be bullies and victims. The only thing that will change is the way they do it. Nowadays it can be done through social networking sites, instant online chat services etc., stuff that wasn't even around a decade ago. What was your point in that message, Nick? There will always be scumbags who bully in school. It's always been like that. The kids today are no different - some of them bully. Just because they have ways of doing it which people in us older guys' days didn't, doesn't mean their motives or intentions have changed any. There will always be people who take delight in ruining other's lives.

I responded to your message because I'm quite sure you'll be back to read it. We know what you're like, Nick. As for Dara... I don't know. I won't say anything. I think Earl has said what needed to be said. Chances are she'll be one of those "hit-and-run" types who won't come back to read and consider any responses to her message so until I'm proven wrong, I shall take my leave!

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England

She probably won't visit this website again; so, I'm probably wasting time posting this comment. But I've done it, anyway.

Dara, none of us actually has said that playing a sport is "a bad thing." I would challenge you to quote any of our posts that has said so. You have misrepresented our position, either deliberately or out of ignorance. I have said repeatedly that I respect athletic achievement. Before you indict someone, you should take the time to be sure that you understand his point of view. This you obviously haven't done. You say that you feel sorry for us. Pardon me; but you sound condescending, if not sarcastic.

Earl

It's funny because none of you have been in highschool for at least two decades, yet you know what happens to "kids these days."
Nick

The only ones who have scolded Fat Man have been members of the forum because they care about him. The 4chan trolls and their sympathizers have yelled at him and have mocked, ridiculed, and humiliated him -- all under the whitewash of "We're for truth and justice." But what they're really for is manipulating others for their entertainment.
Earl

The extent that Fat Man listens is fairly limited. He'll only admit that he is in the wrong if you call him out very very delicately and only by a respected member of this forum. If he scolded by anyone he doesn't know very well he goes apeshit. Even when he does own up to his mistakes, he does nothing to improve upon them and makes the same hyperbolic statements and continues to jump to illogical conclusions only a few posts later. The guy just doesn't have his head on straight. And please, don't give me that rehashed crap about how he's been through traumatic experiences and that justifies his behavior. I've met people who have gone through some awful things as well, but they try their damnest to persevere through it instead of blaming semi-imaginary boogeymen and decending into insanity.
Who cares

Sorry, Dara; but the CULTURE that is associated with (but is not inherently a part of) CERTAIN (but not all) sports DOES encourage bullying. (Of course, there are more than a few school athletes who reject this culture because of the moral upbringing that they've received from their parents and other authority figures.) I've studied this issue for many years. Today what are nonathletic boys who have no interest in sports called? "Fags." And that's just the starting point. And you mention "discrimination"? To what discrimination are you referring?
Earl

At least when Fat Man is reprimanded, he listens. And we've had the likes of someone called "Samdaman" around who was many times more offensive. I don't think he could make one post (where he made a total of 96, not counting his sockpuppet account, Yo_Joe) without making some kind of insulting or derogatory remark.
Skul
Glasgow, Scotland

Serious question to the admins here: Why is Fat Man not banned? You guys are quick to ban people who post insulting material but I've read tons of offensive things from Fat Man. It's impossible to take you guys seriously when you keep a member like that around. Do you guys just feel bad for him or something?
Who cares

I have never said that playing sports is a bad thing. Like most of our critics, you misunderstand the position of most of those who support this website.
Earl

Playing sports is not a bad thing, if anything they help you meet new people/friends and if your local sports team does well it will generate money for the local economy. Sports is not the problem here, it does not make people act like assholes, nor does it encourage bullying. Your anger and hate is misplaced and quite frankly I feel sorry for you guys. Life is too short to waste on stuff like hate and discrimination and in the long run won't do any of you a lick of good.
Dara

if ya don't like it don't fucking come here. its cause of you fuckin 4chan dolts why they're not validating all accounts that get made. i'm hardly surprised by it. why are they gonna let you fuckin spammers waste more of their time? 4chan = idiot and timewaster congregation.
4chan sucks

in b4 this comment gets deleted. also LOL@ members here who say sports fans are supressing free speech but then deleting opposing comments on the guestbook and preventing peple with opposing beliefs from registering on their forums. never change sportssuck.org!
erghq

If you want my opinion, the most idiotic sports bores are the ones that type in nothing but capitals. COZ WERE LIKE DA BEST ONES HERE AND YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF FAGGOTS! HAHAHA! I wonder what they're trying to prove that way?

Best regards,
i_like_1981
England,

Not that I was around when Samdaman was around, but he doesn't seem like the kind of person that would capitalize when appropriate.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

* Earl bursts out laughing and continues to laugh and chuckle for over a minute. *
Earl

That just shows how little he matters, Earl. :P
Skul
Glasgow, Scotland

Hasn't anyone noticed that Samdaman has returned? (Scroll down past several messages.) No reaction? ;)
Earl

Nick, your entire argument consisted of "I'm only 14 years old" and "Chill out and smoke a bowl man". You "fail hard". You waste your time on sites that you have no definite opinion on. Now screw off, I'm getting bored with you.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Mike, I like your optimism. Sadly it just doesn't work for all of us. Particularly when you have greasy hair, stubble and glasses. ;)

Nick, stop spamming.
i_like_1981
England

Now, my /sp/ friend, they've only deleted one thing which I added for the specific purpose of them making a rage topic about (if you truly wrote the fanfics, thank you for the idea). I never expected it to last. However, the main point I want to argue with you is my age: I am 14 years old. =)

Also... Baddy, your whole argument was that someone frm 4chan disagreed with me... so yes, you failed hard. :-)

I'll check back in a few days for some replies. To be honest, I wish I had added some quotes to the Fat Man page. Some of his posts were golden.

Also, Spartan, do you think there should be a Sports Suck page as well as or instead of a Fat Man page? A lot of the stuff on the Fat Man page isn't about him. Thoughts?
Nick

To all of you fellow single sports haters out there that are looking for hot chicks...this is a GREAT time of the year for that. Just go to any sports bar and you will find TONS of hotties that are not being given the proper attention by their NBA Finals watching boyfriends...Just take your pick....their boyfriends or dates will be so into the game that they will NOT EVEN NOTICE THAT THEIR CHICK DOES NOT CARE!!!!!!!!!!
Mike

I HATE sports. I always have and I always will. Up until now, I thought I was alone in my absolute HATRED of sports until I found this website. I fail to see the attraction of sports. In fact, I find sports to be gay. A bunch of men playing around with each other. Who the hell wants to see that?
Shawn Rubin <h47xxx@gmail.com>
Van Nuys, CA United States

Hey, faggots! You thought you'd seen the last of me, eh? Well, I'm BACK; and I'm gonna get revenge! Bwhahahahahaha!
Samdaman

Just so the message that I posted previously will make sense, the "brief message" has been deleted (by Ray, I assume). It's no big deal. I just didn't want the reader to be confused. Anyone can be impersonated on this guestbook webpage, which gives me an idea ...
Earl

I did not write the brief message below that was submitted in my name. Someone has misappropriated my username for his own purpose. As proof, I am not in the habit of using hyperbole.

Sports hater, please don t assume that all of the forum members who support this website all think alike and have the same views. We don't practice groupthink. I do not hate sports fans. If you read enough of my posts, you would see that.

I will assume that your criticism is sincere and that you re not just making a misrepresentation for the sake of putting yourself in a superior position (which, as you must admit, is easy to do in this medium where true identity cannot be established conclusively). For several months we ve had a problem with a group of trolls acting together (not just individuals) targeting our website; hence, our suspiciousness at this time. Regarding SmartSportsPerson, I did use the e-mail function to send him an apology for my initial reaction to his posts. At first to me he did seem to be smart-alecky. At one point he personally insulted one of the other members over his marital status, which (as you must admit) has absolutely no relation to any issue relevant to this website. Again, I apologized to SmartSportsPerson; but he was not without fault in the matter.

If you would check older topics, you would see that Polite24, SportsGuy92, and Andy (all of whom were decent critics of this website) were allowed to post as long as they wanted. I will admit that some of us have been quite rude to sports fans, but I ve not been one of them. If you checked the topic Here for a civilized debate, you will see that we actually split over the way Andy was treated. Even Skul the forum admin was furious over the way he was treated. I even apologized at his football fan website. So, please don t be so quick to make such a broad generalization about all of us.
Earl

I don't really like sports but...I was looking at your board, and the way you guys treat sports fans is abominable. I've lurked around and I understand many of you have been bullied or have seen the negative aspects of sports culture. Be that as it may, thats no excuse for you to irrationally dismiss any sports fan simply for liking sports. No everyone on your board who engages you in debate is a troll. In particular I've seen "SmartSportsFan" get dismissed and insulted for giving you tips how to deal with trolls. That's outrageous! You people should be ashamed of yourselves. You guys are even worse than the sports fans you hate!
A sports hater

No, the admins had to validate accounts to keep out the trolls (as opposed to serious critics), who (by definition) (the trolls, that is :) ) aren't serious and really have nothing to say. You give yourself away, troll. Now run along like a good little boy to 4chan or your favorite porn website.
Earl

>mfw admins had to validate accounts because they were afraid new posters could hurt their little feelings
Ray Finkle

Another /sp?/artan frustrated! Score!!!
Ray

You are right, Nick. I did rage. It's because of you that sportssuck.org thinks everyone is a 4chan troll. Thanks for ruining any lulz potential, cunt. Now we can't have funny trolls like Hank come in and produce hilarity. Now we have to deal with your half-assed shit trolling. Also, it's obvious you aren't 14. You suck. No one likes you. Even the ED admins had to delete your shitty contributions to the wiki. You're trolling yourself.

Whoever said that a perfect game is easy because they saw one in little league made me lol. 10/10, made me rage hard. The trolling is strong in that one.

And Ray, you are terrible. A sports fan who ISN'T a troll comes in here for some discussion and you're response is "YAY ANOTHER SPORTS FAN PISSED OFF". Seriously, if you guys are going to talk shit about 4chan, but then respond in a juvenile manner towards a rational person then I've got news for you: You are just. like. us. Feels good to sink to the bottom doesn't it?
/sp/artan

Sportfan80, you waited ONE DAY for validation? Look, we have lives, you know. You've been validated now, but the reason it took an unbearably long amount of time was because I'm busy in real life.
Skul
Glasgow, Scotland

Another frustrated sports fan (below). SCORE!!! :)
Ray

I signed up for an account on here yesterday which never got validated, so i then went and had a look around your forums. jesus christ, you people are pretty paranoid. you are presuming that everyone who wants to sign up fot your forums is a troll who wants to spam you. no wonder you are hardly getting any activity on here and lot of your members are getting bored stiff. i myself am a fan of sports and dont particularly like seeing what the aparent recent attacks on your forum have done to the morals of some of your members; it's obvious some of you want a debate but just aren't getting it. yeah, you don't want trolls spamming your forum, which is understandable. But how hard can it be to delete a few pointless posts or ban a user? surely not that hard. You have a Spammer rank. Use it. i would have liked to have a talk on your forums. but it's obvious the people who run your board presume that everyone signing up now is a spammer who just wants to cause trouble, therefore i see no use in signing up to a forum where I have to beg in order to be allowed on and where I'm probably just going to get a load of unjustified suspicions thrown at me anyway. So have fun, and if you are ever getting bored to death on here of nobody having anything to say, you'll understand why. Even with the ass-licking username of "smartsportsperson" (i think that's what it was) I can't even get on here. I know when people dont want to talk, so goodbye, and best of luck with your ambitions in life.

Yours, Sportfan80

Sportfan80

Nick, I never claimed that 4channers all act together. I said that the 4channers don't like you, and that is a "hard fail (what were you smoking when you made that up? I guess I don't even need to ask) that you misinterpreted my comment that bad. And I'm afraid you are the one that requires a break from the Internet if you spend so much time on it that you join a forum that has ideology that you have no opinion on. Then again, I suppose my points are rendered useless, because you're 14 years old. Oh my god!
HugeFanOfBadReligion

As well, transgenders are grooooooosssss...
Nick

Lol HugeFanOfBadReligion, fail hard... what you seem to believe is that everyone who visits 4chan is part of a group and that none of the people who visit the website act without approval of the whole. That is retarded, and you have failed. Now, 4channer, I believe you are suffering a case of nerd rage, and should take a break from the internets. =)
Nick

1981, I wouldn't exactly suggest putting your Email on this site considering all of the trolls. I know they can't do much with an Email address, and it would only cause a minor setback, but if it falls into the wrong hands they can become annoying until you do something to stop the Emails, such as marking certain addresses as spam or getting a new Email.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Well, Tessa, I don't particularly like being branded such names as "faggot", "queer" or "gay" because I don't share the same interests in sports as everyone else. Some of our members, including myself, react defensively when attacked. I believe in giving back what I get to any flamers on here. If they start off with the swearing and insults then I give it back to them. There is no point in being reasonable to those who quite clearly are only here to cause problems. Sorry if you find some remarks on this website quite offensive but when the insults are thrown around on this website, it is not exactly the time for people to showcase their finer sides. As for the Jersey of shame, I believe that is only given to the most obnoxious and unreasonable sports fans. It is done to point out those who have shown an exceptional level of obnoxiousness and ignorance. I don't believe every sports fan who visits here is a bully and should be given it, but if we are insulted by authoritarian sports fans on here we have to give them back what they give to us. Admirable? Not exactly. Justified? Yes.

Best regards,
i_like_1981 <i_like_1981@hotmail.co.uk>
England,

Tessa, I don't exactly agree with some of the homophobic things on the site either, however I do believe it is just to be ironic because jocks always call unathletic people "fags" or phrases along the lines of that. They basically claim that all non athletes are homosexuals, and they are definitely homophobes. It just makes them mad I guess because they think they are more privileged than us and only we can be made fun of.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Can someone please explain why is this site so homophobic? I mean giving people who aren't liked by the site admins avatars saying GAY, or calling people 'homo', like seriously? I would like to join here because I'm tired with sports but as a transgendered person I find such acts by the admins offensive.

Love, Tessa
Tessa

Fantasy Football = Dungeons & Dragons for jocks...
Mike

"Pitcher Pitches Perfect Game"

So what's the big deal? I once pitched a perfect game in little league when I was eleven so if an eleven year old kid can pitch a perfect game so should a full grown man. Big whoop.
Jim

Touche, HugeFan!
Earl

This may be one of the first time I've seen a 4chan comment I agree with. How do you feel now Nick, nobody cares for you. Obviously we don't, but also the 4channers you have sucked up to even don't care about you. You tried to brag about yourself because of something that required no skill, and you failed. Now get off of the Internet.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Hey Nick, you're a fucking faggot, so is everyone else on this website, but you are the worst. You are not hot shit for trolling Fat Man months after people stopped caring. Also, don't edit ED if you are only going suck your own dick, post funny shit. Nobody cares if you came on this board and trolled Fat Man -- anyone can do that. Do it in a funny way.
/sp/artan who wrote the fanfics

Nick, I just read your contribution to ED. You truly are a little punk. You're just a little coward hiding behind a computer. Careful you don't cross the wrong guy in real life. Get lost.
Earl

Nick, you weren't banned because of your opinions entirely, you were banned because you would post so much with such little content. You just posted random shit that had nothing to do with anything and made no points, and that was annoying to read. It was a waste of my time, and I was/am low on time. And your latest comment on Fat Man, that is just sickening, and is a perfect example of why you were banned. You are an immoral asshole and I hope you get what's coming for you. Sorry everyone else for feeding the troll, hopefully if he responds again I won't respond back.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Regarding the reason you were banned, you had nothing serious to say. You were just showing your contempt for us by playing your little childish games by submitting little posts that were frivolous. You have no respect for us; so, why should we have any respect for you? If you "want justice," why don't you hound the nine teenagers who have been indicted for driving Phoebe Snow to commit suicide? Of course, you'd rather target Fat Man. You and your little friends have no understanding of the concept of justice. I hope you have a good life.
Earl

*yawn* "Go away, boy. You bother me."
Earl

Ehhhh, since I'm banned I'll say it. I'm not gonna lie back and take it like Fat Man.

Come on, somebody had to say it. =D
Nick

Oh, and that topic was in the off topic forum. =P
Nick

Well, one last post: You're basically saying that because I'm unwanted (due to a dissenting opinion) I should leave a board that many members say is for debate. That's pretty silly, reminds me of fifth grade.
Nick

Sorry, Nick. Perhaps some longer, more informative posts would have been in order if you'd have wanted to stay on the forums. You didn't even tell us what your definite standing was on this sports issue; your posts just seemed to talk about weed, trolling, 4chan etc. I wouldn't say you were a flamer but that rank of SPAMMER was most definitely justified. I mean, that topic saying "Next time, when high, I will share the moment with this board". That was pretty useless. I won't deny that some of the treatment you got was a little heavy-handed but perhaps it was not the best time to start going on and on about the wonders of 4chan when our board was recently raided and harassed by it and some rather sick jokes made at the expense of some of our members. You defended 4chan and did provoke some of the members on our board. You didn't have a lot to say but you sure put down a hell of a lot of posts anyway. It was kinda wasting space and time on the board. Yes, I can accept the fact some of the members didn't give you the nicest welcome but perhaps in that case the best thing to do is just leave if they don't want to talk to you. I give up quickly when I realise people just don't want anything to do with me. It saves trouble and time instead of constantly bugging them and getting in the way of their lives and I can concentrate on my own life instead of worrying what their reaction will be to the next thing I say. Sometimes it's best to quit early as there are people out there who don't like persistence in other people. It's a defeatist attitude, I know, but it really wouldn't have been a bad idea here.

Best regards,
i_like_1981
i_like_1981 <i_like_1981@hotmail.co.uk>
England

Nick, I had to ban you because I had no choice; and I think you know that. One of our longtime members was threatening to leave because of your childish antics. He was tired of Romper Room. As far as banning SPORTS ROCK is concerned, he left on his own accord. At least he was sincerely in what he believed, unlike you. You never wanted to have a serious discussion of any kind. You showed no disposition to listen to what others have to say, which is a mark of maturity. All you ever wanted to do at this website is just play your little games. You are in no position to lecture anyone, not even Fat Man. You show a moral deficit, which I hope will be corrected in time when you learn that life is a serious business and not just a game; and you are not someone whom I would consider to be a good Catholic. Grow up.
Earl

Also, you can reach me on Xbox Live as darksword95, if you wish to QQ moar.
Nick

Well, I figured I'd leave a parting message to each of my pals.

Earl- Other than your irrational hatred of 4chan, you weren't too biad. Same goes for i_like_1981.

Blackdog444- You're just plain nuts. You were the first to be hatin' on me, for no apparent reason. Perhaps if you had given me a chance, heard me out, certain events would not have come to pass. That being said, smoke weed erryday. (Even though I made clear multiple times I was joking with you.) Also, on your big kids comment... are you calling yourself fat? Don't put yourself down, girl... that's my job. ;)

Sparkle- Errr... keep on sparkling, I guess. Just not in states where fireworks are illegal.

Fat Man- I like to think you're a God-tier master troll, but sometimes I worry that you're serious... if so, well, there are stranger things in life, I suppose. Our chats were fun and refreshing. I think you need to update your main page to this website. Read the topic where I deconstruct the opening paragraph for ideas on how to make things better. Also, if you were truly worried about 4chan, stop making yourself major trollbait. When you spend all your time insulting and joking about things important someone, and then they insult and joke about you; don't have the nerve to play the victim. It's pathetic and childish.

Sergey- Even though I never spoke with you, if you were truly a troll, you would be ripping this site a new one right now. There is no haven for a troll other than 4chan. Trolls troll everyone, not just certain targets. Shame on you.

This will be my last post for a while. It's been fun, guys. Also, I'd like to ask why I was banned when I didn't get the required (and ironic) three strikes. I was polite, used good grammar, hell, if I didn't specify you wouldn't have guessed my age... but you keep Sports ROCK. That seems pretty unfair. Well, /endrant
Nick

Stick a drumstick in his mouth.
Earl

First off: I think we should restrict all sports to a subcrition channel for example (like the porn channels) and leave the news, local television and basic cable alone. I don't have contempt for sports. Sports are beneath contempt!
Contact the FCC, and start petitions! Let's raise the standard for television everywhere!

On a personal note, how should I take care of my abnoxious brother in law, he gets really loud when we say grace on thanksgiving and it is disrespectful.

Any help in this matter is appreciated.

Thank you,

Kira
KIRA <patrick.stonebronx@gmail.com>
Bronx, NY USA

"As for the list HFoBR was talking about, I think the real insult is that Don Cherry was ahead of Gretzky, or that anyone was ahead of Gretzky for that matter". Come on, you really believe that Gretzky is more important than the telephone or insulin or our first prime minister or the person who made our universal health care system? Or that he's better than Terry Fox, who ran across half of the country with a prosthetic leg and cancer and would have ran across the whole country if he didn't die? That's just low. I really hope you weren't serious. I mean you think that a hockey player is better than a Nobel Prize winner who saved lives on an extremely large scale, which is just pathetic if you are serious. All Gretzky has done is hit a puck into a net a bunch of times.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Does it Matter, you re welcome. I think that s what many people do who post in website forums. They post frequently in a short period of time, then don t post as often and eventually leave the website. Nah, I m not trying to trick you in any way. :) You can visit this website as often as you like (if you can stand it). Of course, I realize that you might find comments by one or more of the members offensive -- comments with which I m likely to disagree also, even though I support this website. Those of us who support this forum have our differences.

I m a middle-aged guy with two grown children who started posting at websites recently (in January of last year). I ve noticed that many forum exchanges are rather reactionary and that there s the temptation to loose one s temper with whomever you disagree. (I ought to know. I ve done it several times at another website and at least once at this one, and I ve apologized each time either publicly or by PM.) Name-calling seems to be a frequent result, which can be entertaining only when wit is employed by the combatants. I just don t go for that anymore. I m willing to hear from someone who has had experiences different from my own. In fact, I m rather interested in a different point of view so I can learn something.

Another problem with board messaging is that the potential exists for misunderstanding. I ve learned this fact the hard way. Some people give the impression that they re mean and hateful with their overheated rhetoric (which is not to say that some people who use overheated rhetoric aren t mean and hateful). I ve gotten to know several members of this forum personally. They re nice guys, but some of their comments create a false impression. Now all I want to do in any website forum is to communicate and not be misunderstood, and possibly understand someone else s point of view.

Anyway, I ve blathered enough. I will respect whatever choice you make. This website is not for everyone (although I would welcome anyone, as far as I m concerned). Granted, I wouldn t recommend it to my personal trainer at my health club because he would get annoyed with it. I don t agree with every single statement at this website either.

Earl

Thanks for the offer Earl, but I'm not really a forum guy it seems. Whenever I join one, I have a brief period of extreme activity then I just stop posting or even going to the site altogether.

Or could that be your plan? :p

As for the list HFoBR was talking about, I think the real insult is that Don Cherry was ahead of Gretzky, or that anyone was ahead of Gretzky for that matter
Does it Matter? <whywouldyoupostthis@youcrazypeople.com>

Hi, Quiet One. There's no need to apologize. I'm fairly busy, too. Just post when you can. I hope that the new approach I have in mind will work. At least it's worth a try.
Earl

Earl,

This is the one marked as 'what freedom of speech?' before. Been busy, so I apologize for not getting back in regards to registering, maybe holding a fair dialogue within the forums.

I've browsed the forums and noticed the attacks that have been made on the site. I can understand why people would rail against the site, and why people on the site would rail against sports as well. In spite of that, I'm still interested in joining up, and I will see about registering. As is probably obvious from the delay in responding before, I likely won't be on every day, but I'll do my best to try and hold up a fair discussion.
The Quiet One

JJ, in Canada, it's the same. Hockey players are called heroes, and we basically let them represent the country. It's sad that here, hockey is basically considered the most iconic and significant thing about our country. Hockey is considered more significant than anything related to Canadian politics. They don't care that we are a multicultural society, they don't care that we have a health care system that is unique from most countries, but they'll think that we are better than the Russians because we beat them in hockey in the Olympics. In fact, check out this link: http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/standings/
In that link, there is a list of people considered the greatest ten Canadians of all time. Don Cherry, an ex-hockey player/coach and now a host of a hockey television show, was considered the seventh best Canadian of all time. He was ranked greater than Sir John A. Macdonald (our first prime minister)and Alexander Graham Bell (the inventor of the telephone). Apparently a hockey television show is more important than the telephone or the first prime minister. And a hockey player named Wayne Gretzky was ranked as the tenth best. That is an insult, making two people whose only significant accomplishments were involved with hockey considered some of the greatest ten Canadians of all time.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

JJ, the same is true in the United States.
Earl

I live in Australia and what I hate is the esteem that people who play sport well are held. If your good at sport great and good on you but here we call you a 'hero'. I think its offensive. Our diggers are heros; firemen are heros; leaders who make sacrifices to help those in need are heros. Kicking a ball well does not make you a hero and people who use that word to put them in the same category as those men and women who really are changing the meaning of the word.

What gets up my nose so much are the sportspeople referred to as heros also break the law and treat women like objects. People should be seen the way that they are and not be given special treatment cause they play sport well.

I also hate channel ten for screwing around regular programming for sport - isnt that what the sister channel One is for?

I wish we valued art and science a little more. Not necessarily to manic proportions which we value sport.
JJ
Australia

Fucking hate Sports.
I live in Australia and if you hate sports here, its like you have a mental disorder.
AWarGuy

"Does it Matter?", so you're surprised that I criticized you because you claimed that you were going to harass people through email just because they have a different point of view? And I find it funny that there are so many pro-sports websites that would hardly receive any criticism at all, however there is likely only a few or no websites similar to this, and the website receives more criticism than could be imagined.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Just a little hyperbole in my last post.
Jim

I'm sick of turning on the computer every morning and having the latest "unbelievable sports play" shoved down my throat. The only time I read and enjoy a sport related story is when a football player gets paralyzed from the neck down. Now THAT'S entertainment!
Jim

Thanks for the compliment (in your second paragraph).

I see an opportunity for dialogue here, instead of the usual tit for tat of exchanged insults. You express an interest in the question of why some people do not like sports. You apparently are open-minded enough to consider views that are expressed at this website; otherwise, you wouldn't be reading this now. I commend you for that. If you registered to post in the forum, I'd be willing to give you an interview that would allow you to present your side and would also allow you to understand our own. Since I am a moderator (no big deal, I know), I would be able to control the course of the interview by deleting any posts that attacked you personally. I do know that an exchange of insults can be amusing if there is some wit involved, but I think this interview approach might be interesting. I've never done it before. I just thought of it. I'm interested in your point of view. If my efforts resulted in understanding on both sides, that would be great.
Earl

yes, I hate free speech and put my opinion so far ahead of others that I got to a site populated by people who I generally disagree with and make an effort to read every new post they make (at least the ones related to sports, not the off-topic/forum game posts) to see what is about sports that people don't like.

Thankfully we have true defenders of freedom like you who are only here because the people DO agree with you, thus allowing you to close yourself from any outside views. And even when any differing opinion is voiced it is almost immediately shouted down by either you or Fat Man, the person who made said view is labeled a "monkey boy jock" or "spammer troll", they are made to feel inferior because of their beliefs (if only there was a word to describe that...) and almost any chance of a real discussion is put on hold until Earl or 1981 shows up.

Also, do you REALLY believe I would spend my entire day(s) going through hundreds of posts to enter them into 32 individual email fields for my own amusement? I mean, as much as I'd love to, I've got football practice in the evening. ;p

Seriously, some of the people on this site are wound up so tight if you shoved a piece of coal up their ass you'd have a diamond within 24 hours.
Does it Matter? <whywouldyoupostthis@youcrazypeople.com>

Excellent site! SPORTS SUCK!!!!
gjc866

"Does it Matter?", typical, low life, anti free speech, sports loving jock. You don't like what some people say, so you try to make them angry. In this case by harassing them through their email. I don't know if you're just some stupid jock who only respects his own point of view, or if you're some low life 4chan asshole who tries to control the Internet and eliminate free speech. Either way, you need to grow up, and stop living your life off of the reactions of others.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

I'd just like to say that everyone who posted their emails in this guestbook can be expecting a newsletter from every NFL team in the near future
Does it Matter? <whywouldyoupostthis@youcrazypeople.com>

1 sports friend turned ape like on me, and i only have my 2 dance friends! SOPRTS SUCK SO BAD!
Rylie <Saphirebrausam@rocketmail.com>
Roseburg, OR U.S.A

I would enjoy having a conversation with you, however as Earl mentioned, it's a bad idea to post one's information publicly, especially on a targeted site like this. You should consider joining the forum. I would enjoy having a civilized conversation. I'm sure most members would be receptive of you if you are kind. You must remember that the ideas of each member are not identical. I have been friends with several athletes, however they are smart athletes who know that academics have a much higher priority than their sports. I dislike sports not because I'm not interested in them, but because I've noticed that the majority of athletes (and this is from personal observation) are not as bright as other non athletic students, and they enjoy tormenting people who are unlike them. Some members would kill every athlete on the planet if they could, however that is not all members, and I would never promote killing athletes. And some members don't hate sports, but just don't like certain aspects of the sports culture, like Earl. Not every member thinks the same way. I hope to see you on the forums.

HugeFanOfBadReligion
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Hi, this is Earl. Ray (the cite Admin) has just called my attention via e-mail to your message here in the Guestbook.

Thanks for the kind compliment. I prefer to think of myself as a sports critic, not a sports hater. I do not believe in hating people, and I prefer dialogue to diatribe.

Assuming that you re not a troll, I d be delighted if you joined the forum. Admittedly, since we recently experienced a raid by trolls, our patience is a bit short with anyone who would just be a nuisance; but we have no problem with serious posters.

I would disagree with you, though, about our record of tolerating dissent. We have not been quick to ban sincere critics of this website, not even the hateful ones. There are other websites, including sports websites, that are quick to ban new forum members if they don't like what they say. In comparison, we re actually tolerant of dissenting forum members. Of course, I m not taking into account any rude reactions by individual members. You ll find rude posters at just about any website. I m simply referring to banning.

Furthermore, we do not practice groupthink here. Yes, we re a small group; but we re quite diverse. We have a wide age range, from teenagers to middle-aged adults. As a 59-year-old, I m the oldest forum member (although I had nothing to do with the creation of this website and didn t discover it until late December of 2008). Several of our members are women. Several of the active members are British, one is Australian, one is Canadian, and the rest Americans. Politcally some of us are liberal, some are conservative, and at least one of us is apolitical. Religiously some of us are atheists or agnostics, one is converting to Judaism, and at least one of us is a Christian. At least two of us work out at a health club or a gym. We don t always agree with each other. Earlier this year we had a major split over the negative way a new member who plays football at Montana State was received by some of the other members, which caused him to leave us. I even apologized for the way he was treated at the football fan website where he regularly posts as a member.

I would point out that we are not a pressure group or a social movement. We only represent a minority view. We re just a small community of people who sometimes even joke with each other. If I may use a political analogy, think of yourself as a Democrat, say, living in a predominantly Democratic Congressional district who is aware that there is a young Republican couple who live down the street and invite Republican friends over to talk about politics. You wouldn t necessarily be motivated to bang on their door and tell them what terrible people they are. That s all that we are. You could think of this website as our home.

I d also like to point out to you that most of the sports fans who have actually left messages at this website (by submitting posts as forum members, leaving messages in the Guestbook, or sending e-mails to the Letters columns) have been rather hateful. Yes, I realize that hotheads are more likely to bother to leave messages at a website than those who just shrug it off. The point is that there is hatred on both sides, and attempts have been made to shut this website down.

You must understand that some of us have had some rather painful experiences that were in some way connected with sports; and I do understand that sensitive guys like the Montana State football player object to being subjected to a negative stereotype (and rightly so), as most of the members of this website s forum have been subjected to a negative stereotype themselves of a different sort. But, aside from that, I don t understand the heated reaction of some sports fans, as if they feel threatened by this website. Considering that we represent a minority point of view, who would even care? Since we are such a small minority and have no power, why do these people care what we think? There s intolerance on both sides.

I hope this long-winded response hasn t bored you. I d be glad if you joined the forum. Just remember that sports may not always receive a fair treatment (by virtue of the very nature of this website), just as liberals should not expect a fair treatment of liberalism at a conservative website, and vice versa. Please send another e-mail to the secretary to inform Ray that you would like to join the forum. But leaving your name and e-mail address in the Guestbook would not be a good idea. As two of our members have recently learned the hard way, posting one s e-mail address publicly on a webpage is not wise.
Earl

For as much as Fat Man and others whine for their freedom of speech, you guys don't have much respect for the free speech of those with dissenting opinions. That smacks of totalitarian government actions, much like you guys accuse jocks/sports fans of.

It's funny, really. I'd be willing to join the forum, in a non-trolling or hatred inducing method, but if I even shone light on sports and their fans in a neutral, not even positive, light, I'd be rained down upon by hatred and anger. Earl is about the only sensible member on your forums.

From what I've gathered, he only hates the business aspect of sports, not so much the actual sports themselves. If you guys would be interested in giving me a chance, then leave a legitimate reply, and I will respond in kind with a proper name and e-mail address.
What freedom of speech?

Hier in Deutschland gibt es kein Platz für Fehler! Zurück zur Grundschule mit dir! Das Gehirn existiert für 'nen Grund...
Eine andere Deutscher

I got here through accident really. I don't hate sports and I think you guys are generalizing pretty badly.
Anyway, my point is that the German badge or whatever you have on your first page is kinda wrong. It should read Internationaler Ich hasse Sport Klub.
I don't get why there is on in German, but nvm. I just can't stand it if people try to be international and fail...
Goodbye, and Good Luck.
G. Erman
Germany

finally a website that HATES sports.It ruined people's frickin lives and created JOCKS.(evil people)We nerds and geeks need respect!!!!!I HATE SPORTS!!!!!!!!!
Annam <buffetkrazy@gmail.com>
San Diego, Ca United States of America

Thank you all. I thought I was the only one!
Kenneth

You're welcome. I hope I've done some good.
Earl

No need to apologize. It's the trolls and jocks who need to apologize to everyone who they've made victims, but they're to ignorant to do such an act. I'll register again, thanks for sorting this out.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

Sadly, some sports fans are intolerant. The forum Admin (Skul) notified me in a PM that by the time he noticed your messages here in the Guestbook, he had already deleted your account. He received an auto-generated e-mail, but it did not have any details such as your e-mail address. He said that the troll attack has made it hard to tell who is a legit user and who is not, and suggests that you please register again. We're truly sorry about this situation, and hope that you'll understand. PLEASE register again. I will now inform Skul that I have told you to register again. I'm so sorry about this inconvenience. We really would like you to be a member of the forum. Again, you have our heartfelt apologies.

Earl
Earl

Thanks for the help. It's sad that there are people who would try to put an end to a website just because it has a different idea to it.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

HugeFanOfBadReligion, you're not being a nuisance at all. Yes, we did have an attack of trolls. You certainly haven't seen all of their posts; I deleted many of them. As a result of their mischief, the registration was initially closed; but that was intended to be only temporary. I don't know what the registration policy is right now. I was under the impression that registrants were being screened. I'm sorry to say that I don't know what that entails. As soon as I've submitted this message, I will notify both the forum Admin and the cite Admin that you have been waiting for a response. This problem should be cleared up. Sorry about the delay. We appreciate your interest in our website. I hope to see you posting soon.

Earl
Earl

I hate to be nuisance, but can an administrator/moderator please tell me why I can't register for the forum? I registered, and like I said in my below comment about registration, I recieved an email that said I would recieve another email when my account was activated, and I never recieved the email. I'm just asking because I've been reading the forums for a while and I'd like to participate in them. Is it because of the attack of trolls that I noticed has occured? I can assure you I'm not a troll, and if registration is just closed for a while, when will it be open again? Again, I hate to be a nuisance, and sorry if I'm pestering you guys. Thanks.
HugeFanOfBadReligion

I agree, VERY VERY much so. Get sports out of the schools. Bring Music back in. It has been proven that Music help develope stronger math skills. Sports should be an elective that the PARENTS should have to pay for fully.
Timothy B. Yehle <TBYehle45@Yahoo.com>
Commerce Township, Mi USA

Glad to see there are people like me who dislike sports. I've been reading the forums for a while, and I like what I see. While I do not agree on the extremist points of views, such as lining up sports fans and shooting them, I have experienced discrimination because I am a nerd and unlike the brainless jocks, and people who act such as the roudy, intolerant, brainless jocks, should be punished.

By the way, I registered an account about a week ago and I recieved an Email that said my account would be activated when it was approved by an administrator and I would recieve an Email when this happened, but I never recieved an Email. Perhaps it is because my email address involves the word sk8 (administators, please don't reply to this publicly by posting my full address, I don't want my information posted publicly so jocks can harass me like Fat Man posted about, which I have to say is a very immature act by the jocks), and skateboarding is a sport, and I was mistaken for a troll, however I made that email address quite a while ago when I was I child, or perhaps the administrators haven't gotten around to activating it. Thanks!
-HugeFanOfBadReligion
HugeFanOfBadReligion

holy crap! i thought i was the only living being who hated not only sports in particular, but the entire notion of "team concept". yes, i'm sick to death of hearing all about "teamwork" and how "there is no 'i' in team'" only to endure the self-contradicting, childish, and stupid ritual of naming a "mvp". why in god's name people continue to perpetuate the myth and the lie that "competition is good" when what's needed is some co-operation is something i won't live long enough to figure out. in defense of pro-sports, however, i will admit that of all the over-paid types in this country (and the rest of the world), at least these (ahem) "atheletes" (and actors, singers, etc) do indeed deserve every penny they get. after all, no one is forced to buy tickets, go the stadium, buy a cd or dvd. after that, yes, sports suck.
randy vaughan <randyvaughan@cox.net>
vinton, va usa

>my face when you delete serious posts but keep the troll posts
Boston Slob

>My face when I realise it's no longer the Eighties
>My face when I look at the large crowds flocking to buy the latest popular single in the charts
>My face when I'm about to put on a record that's older than me

Best regards,
i_like_1981
i_like_1981

>implying anyone was trolling and not just stating facts
Engerau

>my face when trolling
Earl

>my face when censorship
Engerau

I can't believe that I neglected to point out the following observation in my previously submitted response to "The Question": Regarding the issue of whether 4chan is "evil," publicly posting someone's mailing address and phone number on a webpage so he can receive prank calls is not exactly decent. The man's failings or weaknesses are besides the point.
Earl

I will make the assumption that you are being serious. What I meant by asking that question was that those who raided this website should have voiced their objections to this website in the forum instead of attempting to overload it with spam. (This website's forum has a long record of tolerating critics, even abusive ones. By "tolerating" I mean that we have not been quick to ban them. Yes, there has been some rudeness; but that's true at just about every Internet forum. But why should we put up with trolls, who aren't even serious?) I also meant that those who support this website may have perfectly understandable reasons for doing so, including reasons that you may not even have heard of or thought about. We also have our own disagreements with each other. Do I agree with all the attitudes manifested by every member of this forum who supports this website? No, I don't. As far as hating people I don't even know (speaking for myself), never in my life have I ever hated athletes. My close friends include several guys with athletic backgrounds. I find the 4chan trolls to be annoying, but I don't hate them. I don't even know any of them, because none of them have ever made a serious effort to get to know any of us.
Earl

I'd just like to say I got a good laugh when after reading a thread (not to mention the multiple ones about "Fat Man" and some Wiki site) about how evil 4chan is, I saw you guys have an entire thread dedicated to "The Game"

http://www.sportssuck.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=11&;t=4344

also Earl: "How can you hate people you don't even know?"

after reading this forum, I thought you would be very familiar with how easy it is for people to hate people they've never met
The Question

I agree with some of what you're saying, but your reasons for them are atrocious.

It's not hard to understand why people enjoy sports. It's the same reason as you enjoy your favorite show that gets interrupted by a sports event. There's just more demand for it now. People gather around for it and enjoy it.

Any school that gives any kind of extreme royalty to it's athletes is not a very good school. A reserved parking space? There would be many complaints against this shit.

Trophies in the school lobby are the school's way of showing their pride towards their students who participate in after-school activities. They represent their school and therefore it's appropriate to show trophies.

Now I am all against physical education. It's all about sports.. any actual fitness is OPTIONAL. It's ridiculous that I had to put up with it. Any time I mention how I"m against the class, a stubborn jock would disagree and call me fat and against my health. I am fit god damnit, and I agree with the fat kids in my class.
James <james@yahoo.com>
California, CA United States of America

Hey Bandits,

My name is Raoh, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are big, muscular, low-lifes who spend every second of their day braining innocent villagers. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever been a successor to a Fist? I mean, I guess it's fun to use Retto Hakou Kon because of your weak Fist, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than failing the successor competition of Hokuto Shinken.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was the strongest man of Hokuto, and conqueror of the world. What sports do you play, other than practicing weak self-taught Fists? I also know techniques of Rakan Nio Ken, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just extracted an arrow from my leg and patched the wound; Shit was SO cash). You are all weaklings who should just depart to heaven by your own hand. Thanks for listening.
Raoh <kingraoh@divinefisting.com>

I'm fat and sassy!

I love sumo wrestling because they're fat!

I also like football because the lineman are fat!

Sorry guys, but I've been caught! Heah comes the judge!

Laugh, and grow fat!
Fat Man

A little known fact....

The first testicular guard "Cup" was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974.

That means it took 100 years for men to realize that their brain is also important. duh!!!
?everything

Sports suck, definitely; the Olympics, even more so.
Marti Andrews <msmarti_a58@hotmail.com>
Columbus, OH USA

the topics in the sportssuck forum are not one-sided. they are on-topic. hence the name of the forum. jawanda.
Dewon Williams

I just would like to give my opinion. I would love to discuss sports and why you all don't like them in the forum with all of you all. I think you should let those who want to have a discussion, have a discussion, and those who want to troll, you should ban them. I don't think you should ruin the opportunity for everyone else just cause of a couple of douchebags. I respect your guys opinion, but your forums are completly one sided, I think you should open up some stuff for discussion.
JaMarcus Russell <lightdivision@gmail.com>
Dayton, OH USofA

Roland, I appreciate your letter and happen to agree with you. You'd be welcome to express your views in the forum. Sincere dialogue is always welcomed (at least by some of us). I'm very sorry that you were born with a physical disability. Best regards.
Earl

Hello,
I had a good read through many of the posts on your forum and I'm left wondering (at the same time as being left feeling very offended and disturbed) why so many of you think that sports fans are "monkeys" or "unintellectuals"? I'm sure you realise it's possible to like more than one thing. I love sports. I love my local football team, I love watching other teams, I love watching athletes achieve amazing things in the Olympics, etc... I also love other stuff such as the outdoors, hiking, camping, reading about history, reading books in general, learning languages, working out/swimming, going to Uni, listening to music (anything from classical, to metal, to jazz), playing the guitar and hanging out with friends.

Then I come here, and read that I should be lined up and shot. I read that some of the people who are a great inspiration to me should go to prison or be killed. I read that I'm a total thicko, a sports bore, a drooling monkey.

I was actually born with a broken (in several places) tibia and fibula. I've had to have my leg lengthened twice and straightened once and I've never been able to run. I have to wear a leg/ankle support most of the time and there are a lot of things in life I wish I could do, but can't. Sports are one of the things that I've turned to in the past to get me through hard times. They have often been an inspiration for me. If someone with no legs can win medals in the Paralympics, or if someone who is paralyzed can play Tennis or basketball in their wheelchairs, then what's stopping me from doing (some of the) stuff I want to do?

Also, I don't see how digging out random cases where sports people have committed crimes is relevant or fair. You can do that kind of thing with any subculture to make them look bad. I wonder if your heroes who did the Columbine shootings liked sports, Fat Man?

I'm sorry, there are a lot of reasonable people on here and you know who you are. My rant is mainly focused on 1-2 people anyway, I'm sure you know that too.

Roland

It's great to find people who think like I do on this. My hometown is synonymous with SU sports and I don't give a stuff about it. I'm a born townie!
The Olympics are pre-empting Dr. Phil in my area!
John Sposato <sposato@inmail24.com>
Syracuse, NY USA

I escorted a beautiful lady out of a bar once because her boyfriend was too occupied watching a football game with the rest of his brain dead chaps and did not even notice that his lady as bored...

Mike

That has got to be the most overblown stereotype of a Brit I have ever heard since P.G. Wodehouse. Couldn't you be just a tiny bit more realistic?
Mrs. Earl

How can you hate people you don't even know? If you think the supporters of this website all think alike, you're sadly mistaken. I've been married for 30 years, and I've never been overweight. You're welcome to continue your diatribe in the forum or possibly engage in a dialogue, which would be refreshing. By the way, buddy, are you genuine or just another 4chan spammer?
Earl

Hello Chaps,

My name is Winston Holmes the 4th, and I dislike all of you little devils. One could say all you are porky, stupid, 3rd class citizens who spend every moment of their dreadful day looking at silly old pictures. You are all that is horrid in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever escorted a beautiful lady? One means, one guesses it is jolly good fun insulting other people because of your own insecurities, but you devils take to a whole new level. This is even worse than meeting Madam Palm and her five beautiful daughters to pictures on Facebook.

It wouldn t be fair for me to chastise you without giving you the chance to return the favour, pip. Go ahead blighters. One is pretty much perfect. One was captain of the football team (proper football, none of that Yankee tripe), and starter on one s cricket team. What sports do you play? One also gets straight A's at Eton, and has a spliffingly beautiful lady friend (She just made me tea; crumpets were gosh darn spliffing). You little blighters should sort one s life out. Cheerio old boy, cheers for listening.

POOPY

The Olympics is a war without bullets and enforces the "Us Against Them" selfishness paid for by the corporate non-entities that sponsor these events, which are there to keep us in the group think illusion. Resistance is not futile!
? everything

The rather brief three-word message below does not sound very serious. Send in the clowns.
Earl

he's a masterbeater!
Ray

Are you a /sp/artan spammer?
Earl

An opportunity for dialogue: Whom are you referring? What's your point?
Earl

"Well he started playing football for his highschool, his GPA sky-rocketed and he was offered scholarships from well respected colleges"
lol
djmasturbeat <jonathan.m.claydon@gmail.com>
columbus, ohio usa

Incidentally, there are many decent sports fans. You're not one of them.
Earl

The fact that you sign off as "Anonymous" proves that you truly are courageous. Go back to your vulgar board at 4chan.
Earl

What an eloquent rebuttal. You have more than your share of ignorance yourself, buddy.
Earl

Again, the complete and total ignorance of this site only serves to amuse me. Go fuck yourselves.
Anonymous

I most passionately hate sports, especially pro sports, and more especially american pro sports!
Watching sports is the biggest waste of time, energy, money, thought, air that one could spend.
The only thing worse than the egotistical players is the moronic fans. No wonder america is going down the tubes! These morons are all fat and broke, duh, I wonder why?
Dougie
Winnipeg, MB Canada

Professional sports now, arn't even the games they had sprouted from, I have no problem with... say... basketball, or other people playing it or anything of the sort, my problem stems from the fact that the NBA, the NFL, and all others are just around for the money, even though they already have plenty of it!
Gabe

They're not games anymore, they're businesses!
Gabriel Pfeiffer

I absloutely HATE sports to the highest degree! They are a waste of time and effort. Imagine all of the things that the human race could accomplish if there was as much energy put toward actual progression as there is put toward "the Game". And really, that's all it is, A GAME! Seriously, it's not going to benefit you unless you're the one playing. And don't get me started on all the money that is WASTED so that some college/pro player can PLAY. That's not a real job! There's nothing anyone can do to convince me otherwise. It's a pitiful excuse for a profession and I refuse to support it in any way, shape, or form. I can't stand seeing people walking around wearing the tacky merchandise and flashing the labels. It's pathetic! I say grow up and get a life, one that actually matters to the world.
c.j.a.
Canada

What do sports fans (sheep) contribute to society? The typical sports fan is an idiot who stacks pallets for a living or lifts boxes for $7.00 an hour. If you ask him about an author, (the guys who write books), he'd probably stand there with his mouth agape. Sports haters are more likely to be educated and goal oriented than your typical fat, potato chip inhaling, beer guzzling, wife-beating, low IQ sports worshipping MORON.
I spent Super Bowl Sunday learning Skynyrd songs on my guitar...at least I freakin' learned SOMEthing.
Jim

I don't think they're coming back, Ray. They got whacked like frikkin pinatas. I don't think they'll be back anytime soon.
Don

Dem's pretty strong words and ironic since they come from a person too cowardly to join the forum.
Ray

YOU ALL are a bunch of lazy, faggoty, do-nothings that whine and bitch about the fact that everyone you ever met is better then you at just about everything! People like you fuck-sticks are the asshole of our society. You contribute nothing to the advancement of mankind, and have such low self-esteems that you think its somehow ok to hate the exercise and great competition that comes from modern sports. I hope you all die in a fire, but its not like anyone would notice, you basement-dwelling, emo, ugly, worthless sacks of human excrement! Suck a dick!
The only normal person here

WHy would people pay multimillions for sporting parks when we could use them for libraries, homeless shelters, and highways? Why are we in a deficit due to squandering of federal money for recreation? It is all because of sports! Sports have ruined our lives and have completely destroyed the point of our lives! Why must we live on the couch and become virtual servants of athletes!
Audrey Gallinston

i;m so glad i have an husband who hates sport;my first husband was a typical sports lover;he couldnt watch football without getting drunk.you should have seen the mess when he and the lads were watching the world cup in 1990.took 2 days to clear up.thats why sports sucks and so do do those who like it'ps you have got to be drunk to appreciate football9 as in english football
cazwaz <chris.wibberley@blueyonderco.uk>

In the sentence below, the word "crap" (considered by some to be vulgar) should be rendered in its adjectival form, which is "crappy."
Elvis Presley

The person below me has pretty crap grammar and spelling.
Michael Jackson

from the age of five years old my father used to take me to football matches.i was literally bored to tears.my father still loves sport so you might think i was a disappointment to him.my father cant even wire a 13amp plug up whereas i am very capable in all d.i.y and it astonishes me that people cant do their own car repairs.from an early age i learnt the piano and am now accomplished ,yet none of my family have ever requested that i play for them even after all these years.i have alarge collection of vintage jazz 78s and various wind up gramophones yet no one has ever expressed the slightest interest in this.i love the opera ,the ballet ,the theatre.i love art galleries,stately homes,etc.i have a fully kitted out workshop where i can make practically anything.i love reading classic literature and am especilly fond of sir.walter scott.And yet I am entirly dismissed by my peers. why /because i hate football and that is so totally unreconcilable with everybody.you see'all i ever hear anyone ever talk about is football and you can be the most talented person in the world ,but if youy hate football you are sunk.
christopher wibberley <chris.wibberley@blueyonderco.uk>
sheffield, s.yorks england

I hate sports more than anything in the world, and I'm not exaggerating. I hate P.E. and I hate playing sports. Today, our class had to choose between yoga or basketball for P.E. and we each voted for one. Most people voted for basketball. I just couldn't understand. I hate all that running and stuff, it's all so stupid and tedious. I almost fucking cried. SPORTS. SUCK.
Robann <kennymccormickfan@hotmail.com>
Surrey, BC Canada

I was formerly obsessed with sports. I played football in high school, and to this day play basketball occasionally with some local guys. I soon realized that sports is inherently corrupt on many levels. The potential positives coming out of organized sports are mostly crushed by the money and corruption.
Harold
Highland, UT USA

Yeah, I'm beginning to like these two now. They may be sports fans but at least they are tolerant and have even proved themselves able to withstand the abuse they've been receiving on here and still keep a friendly tone! Quite an achievement. If anyone ever started swearing at me and ignoring the points I addressed to them in my posts then I would be most glad to sling it back at them! I admire your withstanding of the hate shown towards you (by me as well) Tony and Andy! You've defended your points well and stayed calm through all the mindless hate. i_like_1981 owes you a pat on the back! Now then, the footbore World Cup is coming NEXT YEAR to our TV screens and I definitely know what all of England will revolve around for a few months or so. Well, perhaps only a few days... our team doesn't tend to win over all the aces like Brazil despite the massive emphasis our country places on soccer. Soccer is the national sport of England and that is probably why I hate it so much! I think sports are just games but raising them to the status of national icons seems a bit excessive in my opinion. I understand how people can get worked up - it's national pride. Pride in your country and belief that they can triumph. But is there any need for violence and hate shown towards people JUST because their team may have succeeded over ours? It's only men in shorts! Men in shorts kicking a ball do not judge the strength and honour of a whole country or race of people. Yet unfortunately this is not known to some sports fans. Football is the one deciding factor between someone's country being great or just "crap"! That's what they'll have you believe! Support your team if you want but don't depend your personal morale and happiness on their abilities. Cause they could well disappoint which I learned to expect from England! WE mess up a lot, and it's not just soccer... look at the government and the credit crunch! This country is beginning to falter! The last time our team won the World Cup was 15 years before I was born... people still talk about it now like it was yesterday. Wow, England won ONCE! 44 years ago! It shows how crap a team really is if its fans constantly feel the need to keep reminding themselves and the whole population how it proved itself to be the so-called "mightiest" on one occasion. Yeah, that was once! I know I'm a bad one for living in the past but not with footbore! I love the things the past gave us... I don't brag on about certain events that make me somehow feel "proud" of my heritage even though I personally did nothing to make them happen. The 2010 Footbore World Cup is coming! Avert thine eyes, sports haters... in fact, feel free to hide away in your pre-built footbore shelters on 11 June and I'll send you a message when it's safe to come out! Be careful! The last bastion of common sense lies with us! (Just joking.)

Best regards,
i_like_1981
i_like_1981 <i_like_1981@hotmail.co.uk>

Tony, you show a lot of class. Thanks.
Earl

i_like_1981, thank you for explaining your reason. Yes, I know about the old "eye for an eye" rule. Wasn't it a Babylonian law? or was it Mesopotamia? I mix them all up sometimes... but it was like this. If you killed another mans slave, your own slave would be killed. If you blinded someone, you in return would aslo be blinded. I never ended up reading the Harold letters, but I read them last night and I can tell you that you should just ignore them. You don't need to apologize to us when you did nothing to us. I can clearly see (now) that your post was directed at Harold (whoever that is on Gridiron.. I still don't know). Sorry for the Harold letters, I hope something like that never happens again.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

C'mon guys, enough with the damn bickering!!!!!!

Nobody here cares about other forums where "Real Men hang out"!!!!! The real men that attend this forum like to sit back and talk about the hilarity that we see on a daily basis that involves people that are WAY TOO INTO SPORTS!!!!
You know, people that can tell you who Tony Romo is but have never heard of Joe Biden, people that are over the age of 40 who watch THE LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES!!!, people that would rather watch a football game than "Apocalypse Now", people that try to talk tough and insult you if you are not into sports, who then go home to their lonely , fat alcoholic lives, people who still care about high school football enen though they were born when Richard Nixon was president, people who play fantasy football, and last but not least, grown men that still collect baseball cards. You guys need to get rid of those baseball cards (pack them away and put them where your old star wars toys are), put a suit on, and go to a bar and meet some FINE WOMEN and quit bickering!!!!!!!
Mike

Hopefully, most of the action of this three-ring circus is being transferred to the forum, which is where it belongs.
Earl

Getting back to you now, the last post I made on this guestbook was just to let off some steam after being banned. Had to be done - I can be a bit extreme at times. Returning to the point, my post in the gridiron forums was quite clearly addressed to that jackass, Harold. In all honesty, I have no beef whatsoever with you two, Andy or Tony. I saw the link to that thread in the forums and quickly jumped on the opportunity to give a person who has stereotyped us all by calling us "gay nerds" and "fags" a piece of my mind. Yes, it's quite obvious to see why I was banned. But Earl offered that guy a dialogue several times and never got one, so I felt a need to retaliate in a similar manner to Harold's own attacks. I react defensively many times on the internet. It's called "an eye for an eye". Yet to be fair, I don't see why one jackass should tarnish my thoughts on more civil sports fans - it's just that you guys seem to go mad at me and think I was completely wrong for giving an angry response back to Harold which was more than well deserved. I never mentioned any of your names in the post - I never insulted anyone else personally. Yet you have taken my insults to heart. Yeah sure, some things I said did sound like bashing the whole site such as "worshipping the jock gods" but if my intention was to bash the whole site and not a specific asshole, I would have addressed my post to the entire thread and not to the person in question. Sorry, Andy and Tony. Excuse my former intolerance - I will not tar you all with the same brush from now on, just people who I know are idiots. You sound like pleasant guys. My comments about "all sports fans being banned from this site"... just forget about them. I felt the need to vent some anger. But my ban was probably a deserved one. Have a nice day. (Dear God, this is looking to be an action-packed new year for our guestbook!)

Best regards,
i_like_1981

I hate sports. I am straight, fit and awesome to behold but I hate sports. How one can align key parts of their identity with sports is beyond me. I feel fortunate to have lived a life surrounded by people who share this hate for sports. Cool you have a website. Good luck with the masses. I will submit my complaints - why is it that all gyms play sports? Just because I work out does not mean I want to watch Hockey. Also, why is it cool for sports players to spank each other when they are happy with one another? Does this make them fierce, gay jocks? Who approved the hockey players on the Canadian $5 note? I certainly was not asked to weigh in but my tax dollars were used. I could go on and on...... oh yeah, women look ridiculous in sports jerseys walking to the games. Frumpy, dowdy hags in sports regalia herding to the spectacle that is the refuge for the vapid mind....to think - they breed......
Ryan from Canada
Canada

Breaking morale? Do you know what a troll does? And... Andy said it.
Sergey

"I'll post that one line where you said you were "owning us"."

When did I ever say that?! Stop saying that I said something... you said I called you homosexual and now you say I said this?
Tony
Chicago, IL US

So destroying peoples morale just for your own pleasure ISN'T sick? I don't care how many "trolls" there are, that is disgraceful... I'm not making you change.. but imagine the people you did that too. "Trolls" have been known to torment people so badly, it causes suicide.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

No it isn't. Trolls are as common as rain drops. And I will say this: I [b]highly[/b] prefer video games over sports.
Sergey

Sergey, it is sick that you feed your morale off of insulting innocent people.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

I guess I must tell you again that I'm a troll. So, I do this not for the argument, but for the humor. I think Earl wants you to go to the forums. But I am glad to say you fed me well.
Sergey

Sergey, what Andy just said, is what I have been saying the entire time... it's not just me that feels that way.

Andy makes a point that debates are boring when the opposing side just uses 7th grade level insults...
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Sergey, so you are saying that I shouldn't have posted this on gridiron palace? Why? I actually enjoy hearing someone else's view points. I find it boring to sit around with people who view things exactly they way I do. A good debate can be entertaining but when people resort to childish insults it gets old. I was trying to give you guys the intelligent side of our argument and the only person to actually create valid points for your side is Earl. You and Tom have resorted to using insults to try and win. How does this make you any better than the members that you complain of. I also don't see how you can judge Tony and me based on view points of other members from the forum we visit.
Andy

So? We just don't care.
Sergey

I came over here to show you guys that your stereotyping of athletes is very far from thr truth.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

You're suggesting it's right for Andy to tell about this forum to your forum members, why do you think we want this? Oh right, you forget, WE DON'T.
Sergey

Not that, when you started out "I saw that, do you think it will help?"
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Okay.

I don't want their respect, I would view that as atrocious and sad, maybe you have lower expectations but not me.
Sergey

"I loathe and view as cannon fodder"

Again, you say that we don't treat you with any respect and insult you... it always backfires.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Sergey, I'm being respectful here...

Can you please re-type that? That is not good grammar at all, I can't understand..
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Tony

Uh... I don't want their respect, that would be sad, respect from people I loathe and view as cannon fodder? No way.
Sergey

Tony

I saw that, is that supposed to help? Why do you encourage Andy that showing this to little shits is really appropriate? Because you need an athletic army? Because, then I'll just get my L33T army of G-Mans.
Sergey

Sergey, No. You want respect from them, EARN IT! Like we have been trying to do with you, and what Earl did with us! You want to be insulted? I will not participate.. at all...
Tony
Chicago, IL US

If you don't call that respect, you can call the United States a 3rd world country...
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Well... I am imitating your members, so, why don't you talk to them? I'd honestly care if you would post about me, because I'm a troll and want to get heard of. They are like Crackbone, only not humorous and idiots.
Sergey

"lol, yeah they are pathetic and just hold a grudge against people that are athletic because they are jealous..."- Pwillie52

"Eh, they just don't like sports... we gotta let them have that... it is anyways, one of their rights... I don't like how they stereotype us!"- vikingfan465 (me)...

You were saying?
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Sergey, of course we expect respect! I would asume by GIVING respect, you GET respect. Andy decent human being should know that. Exactly what Andy said, Earl showed us respect, he is treated with all kinds of respect at our place. Andy and I show you and Tom respect, we get a shitload of insults, and then whenever we make a minor insult, you jump off calling us fags, semen drinkers, and intollerant assholes.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

No... if we go by your members point of view, we can safely assume you are both fat ass sperm sucking cunts, and they say you're gay if you just don't like sports, so if you are MARRIED or ENGAGED they won't care, they'll make up another excuse, so you ARE homosexual. Until I see you disagreeing with their insults, then you are a hypocritical idiot.
Sergey

And Sergey, by repeatedly insulting Andy, innocent members of TGP, and me... you are way above what are friends were doing..
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Sergey,
Yes I did call you guys idiots, I admit it. I only said that after the repeated insults and athlete stereotyping and I was a little ticked off at the time. I apologize. You asked me if expected respect from this forum when I came on a site that opposes my opinion. I did expect respect, because I gave it. I did not insult, yet was still insulted. Two of your members have come to our site, with two different approaches. I_like_1981 came and started bashing, he was banned and not treated with respect. Earl on the other hand came to our site showing our members respect, he was treated with the up most respect. I'm a firm believer in by giving respect, you get respect.
Andy

Wait, so based on our FRIENDS opinions of you, Andy and I are homosexual? That is a terrible point... BTW, I have a girlfriend... so you calling me homosexual is useless.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

I said A MEMBER WAS SAYING IT YOU IDIOT! I love these insults, because I can say them on a whim, your members do this on a daily basis, why don't I start? With your members logic, you are both homosexuals, both of you are semen drinking faggots, and you love to give each other a heads up!

See how your members act? MUCH MUCH worse than my new level of aggressiveness.
Sergey

Also Sergey, calling me slow won't make you any better of a person. Also, when I have a 3.9 GPA in HS, I don't call that "slow".
Tony
Chicago, US US

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

"...but guys like Tom and Sergey are just idiots."

I'll post that one line where you said you were "owning us". BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

... Back to the point, how am I wrong? My opinion on sports athletes is in no way WRONG. It is not a fact only works one way, it is OPINION. And, on this forum, that opinion may be said.
Sergey

Sergey, go read that thread. Read MY posts (vikingfan465). I NEVER called anyone a homosexual, you are again, making stuff up to help your cause. You are not right at all. Your opinion on hating sports, is in every way, shape, or form, correct. My opinion is in every way, shape, or form, correct. Got it? Now we are here to show you guys that you are stereotyping "jocks" very poorly. Very few "jocks" are how you describe them. We are here to show you how real athletes act, and we are doing a damn good job.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Sergey,
When did I criticize you or anyone on this site for that matter? I posted the thread because I thought the stereotyping of jocks was amusing. You are wrong, but not when it comes to your opinion on sports, you are wrong when you stereotype athletes. We are not all what you say we are.
Andy
Montana

If anything... both of you and Tony were AGREEING with these individuals, seems like you won't disagree when you are defending the same thing, even if you know they're wrong?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

If anything, I won't come to your forums because I don't care about watching sports. You do, but you come to a sports hating site and hope to be treated with respect? Like Tony, you are slow...
Sergey

Sergey, Andy thought it was funny and it was intended as a joke for us. When I heard of false statements that you, Tom, and a couple others were saying about "jocks" I took action. We NEVER insulted you, but you have insulted us MANY TIMES. And yes, Sweetness is a athlete's name. Walter Payton (best RB all time) nickname was sweetness... great football player, even better man... this is just proving our point that you are being a stereotyping asshole.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Sergey, that is not at all how it was typed. It had terrible grammar and terrible word arragements. If I am forced to make a guess, I make an educated guess. I had to take a guess there, when no one in the world could read it. Like Andy said, you need to read what we are saying, you are just saying that we said something, just to prove a point. You claim I called you and Tom homosexuals, when I never did. Shall I continue?
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Andy

Maybe... I would let you like sports, if you didn't criticize us, you make a thread about us on another forum, are we really that much of a PITA for you? Because, if so, my trolling rank is feasting on this pretty well. You called me an idiot on your own forums, even though I only posted once and you didn't dare respond. Well, you are a mindless hypocritical sack of shit who should be I.P. banned, uh and, I can watch Xanatos videos while talking to you, so I am a nerd, you can't play sports, so you shouldn't be called a jock. Sweetness is a athlete nickname? Well... why didn't I name myself Xanatos 3.10? Because I don't care enough.
Sergey

Sergey,
So you are judging Tony and me over something members of the same forum as us? Because some members of this site are stereotyping assholes doesn't mean all of them are. Look at Earl, he is a member of this site and a good person. Once again, you can't judge one person by the people he hangs out with.
Andy

Again, I am not homosexual. I have a girlfriend. Yes, hundreds of people WILL call you homosexual for hating sports. Hundreds out of the 300 million sport fans alone in the United States. Like I said, thats not a big number. So my friends call you guys homosexuals, so that means I am a homosexual? Even though I have never called you guys homosexual? I don't get your point by that... if you are picking on the innocent, that is wrong... and I don't care if sports are insulted, again, I am here to tell you guys that "jocks" aren't how you portray them. i_like_1981 defiled many rules of the forums, I can't tell you what ones, but the Admins of the site are the ones to make that decision.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

"I almost punched a baby after reading some of the bullshit you people spew! Why don't you come over to my forum where real men hang out and try your lame arguments there. You wont' last five frikkin minnutes!"

As Tony said, this wasn't me, someone decided to post this and put my screenname on it. I'm sure Earl can check the I.P. addresses. As for you being intolerant, go for it. I really don't care if you like me. I was just trying to show you that not all athletes are who you think they are. But you obviously aren't actually reading what we are posting, you are just reading into it what you want. I guess I didn't know that you owned the internet and I need to call you for permission to post on it from now on. Get off your high horse and take people for who they are, not who you want them to be. I'm still waiting for Tom or you to find anywhere either on this site or gridiron where I say that you can't have your beliefs. I'm giving you the right to choose whether you like sports or not, why am I not allowed to choose?
Andy

Tom

I was referring to MY schools trademark, not YOURS. Do you have problems with understanding?
Sergey

Oh... I see... so, raving fanatic sports fans come onto this site and THEY defile the NO FLAMING rule, and as far as I've seen, your forum members can insult other people and forums as long as SPORTS AND SPORTS ALONE don't get insulted. What. A. Laugh. You think YOU deserve to come to this forum don't you? If we cancel out i_like_1981 with a sports fanatic, there are still hundreds of them who came to this forum alone. So... UP YOURS YOU HOMOSEXUAL. If your shitty acquaintances can say we're homos, I will view you as a homosexual, and it cancels out, and there still HUNDREDS of dumb ass sports fanatics who call us homosexuals. Isn't it fun have inferiority on a forum?
Sergey

Sergey, if you were refering to my username "Vikingfan465" A viking is not my HS mascot. I am a Minnesota Vikings fan (Pro Football Team). Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

I am slow? I will not respond, you are trying to get me to go off on you, too prove your point. I made a mistake by mixing you and Tom up... so what? Who hasn't made a mistake? I never said anything about a Viking's mascot at my HS! Where did you get that? I live in Chicago! The Vikings mascot would have been stoned to death!
Sergey
Chicago, IL US

Also Sergey,

I don't appreciate you calling Andy and I extremists, or supporters of elitism or prejudism. That is not our philosophy at all. I will not do a "69" position with Andy, because I am pure straight. If you want, come to Chicago and meet my girlfriend. You call us intolerant, when we WOULD tolerate you guys on our site, if you would be civilized like Andy and I. Instead, i_like_1981, charged onto our site, and completely defiled the rules that the Admins have, and insulted everything about the site, earning him a ban. You don't have the right to tell Andy and I to get off your site, when I have no proof this is your site. If you give me hard evidence, then I will leave peacefully..
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Good God Tony you are slow, when did I talk of freedom of speech in that post? No where, again, you are FULL OF SHIT. I saw what you posted Viking fan, hmm... my middle school and current high school have viking as their "mascots", but no, it's just the schools trademark as you can say. But anyway... your friends on those forums are dumb asses who can't even prove their existence has a meaning.

I said you'd say things I didn't bring up, and you did say those things, so, just as this argument stands, I'm right, you're wrong.
Sergey

Sergey, that wasn't Andy... someone did the same too me.. they munipulated our words and posted as us, when it wasn't even us. For example, the person that impersonated me said that people who hate sports are nerds. I don't believe that at all... you guys have your rights, I am here to get you guys to stop calling us intollerant assholes, when very few of us jocks are.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Sergey, name one time I called you or Tom or anyone on this site a homosexual... Hmm? Cat got your tongue? I never did, and you don't have the right to munipulate my words... now if you would reply with a civilized answer, maybe some of the guys at the Gridironpalace (who are reading this) would learn to respect you. Other than saying us jocks are complete assholes that only date cheerleader sluts. You claim to have freedom of speech, but you must know that there are rules to that. For example, if you run into an airport and shout, "I have a bomb!" You will be arrested and your speech rights will be ignored. By calling cheerleaders "sluts" and jocks intollerant assholes who only care about themselves, you are neglecting your right.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

"I almost punched a baby after reading some of the bullshit you people spew! Why don't you come over to my forum where real men hang out and try your lame arguments there. You wont' last five frikkin minnutes!"

Real men? Lame arguments? Inaccurate way of spelling minutes? You are so full of shit... I. Am. Serious. I loled how you think dumb asses who can't spell worth a shit are "real men", are you stupid?
Sergey

Andy

You seem to call me an idiot in your forums when you can't say to me directly, right? Oh, I guess you want support from your semen drinking friends. You're afraid insulting me directly will worsen your chances on this site, am I correct? Well, shit for brains, I will not tolerate you on this site, I can't tolerate our two "civil" sports members, so I am not tolerating a mindless lying shit who gives his daddy a heads up for an allowance, never... WILL I TOLERATE YOU! You will ignore this post and spout more "I'll tale you things you aren't talking about" bullshit. Good day Stalin Jr.

Tony

You think you can get away with call us homosexuals on your forums? Is that your defense code? Well, all I can say now is up yours, and up your idiot friend Andy. And don't say I "mindlessly" hate athletes when I have friends that like the sports genre, and did I tell you to get the fuck out of my site (funny pun wouldn't you say?)? I will not tolerate elitism, or extremists, or even fanatics spouting bullshit at me, you and Andy can 69 position yourselves elsewhere. So, up yours (AGAIN), and have a good day you git.

And... just so everyone knows, I did that in a calm manner, and these insults were my new way of getting my "Trolling One" rank to mean something. And if you don't understand that... I won't tell you what a troll is. Has Earl been shocked at this letter?

Sergey

When it comes to the issue of sports cards, as a kid I loved collecting football cards. Gosh I don't know how much money I wasted on sports cards as a kid but I loved it. And I have many cases full of I'm assuming valuable cards now. I don't collect anymore and haven't in a few years. But I do see your point in the 50 year old card collectors, I would often go into card shops as a kid to buy my usual pack or so I would be a week, and there would be 50 year old guys buying big boxes of cards just to find a few good cards so they could sell them. This kind of thing actually annoys me, cards are there to be enjoyed, not just to be found so someone can sell them without getting any enjoyment out of them. It was the same way when I went to the Pro Bowl as a kid, this takes place in Hawaii and what I loved about it was the football players were very accessible and it was easy to meet them and get pictures and autographs. The practices were free to the public and afterwards the players would come and sign footballs and pictures and such from the fans. It was about 50% kids my age of around 10 or so, and the other 50% was older guys that would have big cases full of NFL official photos from every player that was at the pro bowl. Basically they had the player sign it and the next day I knew those items would be on ebay. The items I had signed are still sitting on a shelf in my room.
Andy

Not only sports fans collect baseball cards? I guess that's so. True... But isn't it OK for kids to do it but not as great for adults? Except for the case of the antique card. I can understand that. It's sort of like guys who collect comic books. They're worth big money of you keep them in good condition!
Tom

Tom, collecting baseball cards isn't JUST for sports fans. Mostly for little kids so they can compare cards with eachother, and then some people (30+ year olds) collect them along with novelty items. Also, they are used a lot to sell because some baseball cards can be worth up to 1000+ due to how antique they are. My friend recently sold a Babe Ruth card for 500$. And also, please stop with the stereotyping... barely any sport fans are as so many of you claim we are (not just towards you Tom.. anyone who has stereotyped us..)
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Enough already of the bickering on this site. Let us all just chill and talk about the true meaning of this site, which is to insult the idiots that follow sports like it is some kind of religion, the people that hoot and holler in a bar making conversation with your lady impossible, the people that are well into their 30's that still follow high school football, the people that stop flirting with a hot blonde chick at a bar if a picture of a football player comes on the screen ( I used that to my advantage once and met a really hot chick ), and last but not least, the people that play "Fantasy Football"....

WOW, MIKE --I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER. ADD "MEN WHO COLLECT BASEBALL CARDS"!
Tom

i_like_1981... if you would have come to our site and expressed your opinion on SOME of the members, you would not have been banned. Andy and I have never (EVER) said that you must like sports. I don't care if you do or don't, I respect your opinion. Oh, and please stop stereotyping us... Andy and I have shown that not all jocks are dumb or intollerant, in fact, very few are. Andy and I are both sustaining great grades while playing sports. I am on the honor roll at my school, while I start WR/PR for football, and Small Forward in basketball. And on the site where you said, "It's a shame that ONE rotten apples ruins the batch." That is a completely biased statement. You look at things through your own eyes and don't bother trying to see things from our point of view. If you would try seeing things through a jocks life, you would think differently. If you read any of my posts, you would see I'm a good guy, and so is Andy and very many sport fans/jocks.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

This site is ridiculous. I mean, I understand some of your points, but the whole remove sports teams and physical education from schools idea is completely ridiculous, just like your stereotypical belief that people who follow sports base their life on a game. I watch football and basketball all the time, but I also happen to be a dedicated student who's also working two jobs. Not only do I put school before sports, I put work before sports as well. Though I tend to try leave Sundays and Mondays open, if I'm on the schedule, I'm on the schedule, regardless of what is going on that day. So to say that just because I follow sports means I base my life around them is completely ridiculous and illustrates the irrelevance of your beliefs. You people are ridiculous.
Layne

i_like_1981, Andy is not bashing you. He's only trying to communicate. As the hippies of the late 1960s would say (not that I agree with what they stood for), Peace.
Earl

I_like_1981,
Here we go again with the blind stereotypes, you are assuming that all jocks are bad based on a few bad eggs. Have you read not read any of my comments? The reason why you were banned was because you came to their site and violated their terms of service, you were bashing pretty much the whole site. You say that you guys should all treat jocks that come to the site the same. So basically you believe that all people from the same group are all the same? So all people that hate sports are nerds? No, they are not, their are different types of people. If you would have gone to the gridiron palace and expressed your opinion in a civilized manner like Tony and I have done here, you would not have been banned. Find it in my posts where I said you were wrong in believing that you should all like sports. You will not find it. I said that you guys are allowed to not like sports, as Tom said, this is America where you have the Freedom of Speech. If you wish to bash me though, go for it. I didn't do anything to deserve it but according to your stereotypes, I guess I'm just a horrible person!

Take care,
Andy
Montana

This is hilarious. The so-called "tough jocks" have already banned me from their gay forums where they like to go and talk about men touching each other. Check this link:
http://www.thegridironpalace.com/forums/Ban-sports-t38454.html&st;=40

Well do you know what? Screw you and your forum. You jocks think you're so damn tough and mighty, coming over to our site, harassing us for not liking your gay sports and clogging up our guestbooks and forums with your bigoted drivel, yet when we come over to your site to challenge you on your own turf where you have all the advantages and support of your like-minded friends, you just ban us instantly. It just goes to prove... jocks are just cowards! They can't stand anyone unlike them coming into contact with them and just instantly restrict them from getting any words in! I think any sports fan who comes here should be given the harshest possible treatment, told to fuck off and then banned! Why should we let them express their inflexible opinions on our site when they won't even return the favour? I don't care if they're civil or not! Regardless of that, they're all just here for the same purpose - to rub it in our face how wrong we are for not liking sports! It's just the manner that's different, their motives are the same! We're so fucking TERRIBLE because we don't like sports and therefore we're not fit to live in this mindless world of today! So, if you hate us coming on your sports sites so much, why don't you all fuck off ours and stop wasting our, not to mention your own, time! You're not going to change the views of a single person here, regardless of how much you have to say and how "pleasant" it may seem, so save your fucking precious breath and hit the road! See the site name? "Sports Suck"? You don't belong here. Nobody here is wrong in what they believe - in fact, you jocks are the ones who are wrong, believing everybody has to adhere to your standards and that only they are the right ones to live by. You're all fascists, the lot of you. So keep your distance because you're not welcome here! Or as you sports fans say, "your not welcome here". You can't even differentiate between "you're" and "your". Too many blows to the head affecting your mental stamina? Or were you too busy gasbagging on about men in tights during English classes in high school when you should have been learning that vital grammatical distinction? God knows.

Best regards,
i_like_1981
i_like_1981

LOL funniest website I've ever seen hands down. It must be a joke there is no way in the world someone is pathetic enough to hate....sports? Weird. I'm gonna start a website about my hatred of Vegetables!! DAMN THEM TO HELL. Who gives vegetables the right to be good for me???
Anthony <antwaywad@yahoo.com>
Urbana, Oh USofA

Tom, we are not less fortunate because we like/play sports. Every single object that is on this Earth is equal.. and no one worships sport idols, I mean NO ONE. Unless they are in a cult which is about one in ever 500 sports fans.

Andy, he doesn't like yous simply because you play sports. I start WR/PR on my football team, and SF on my basketball team, but Tom does not act negatively too me. I will stay out of you and Tom's discussions since that is your own privacy.

BTW Tom, Pwillie was never sending you e-mails.. he was at my house when he was posting on here... don't let his CIty name fool you (I think he put LA right?) Pwillie lives 3 houses away from me.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Tom,
What do you mean by less fortunate? Are you claiming that because we like sports we are worse off than you? Once again isn't that stereotyping? No one said you had to worship or even like the people we like, but at least have respect for the deceased. No one also said that all athletes are idols, I will admit that there are some people in the NFL that are not good role models but then there are some guys in the NFL like Tony was saying, that are all around good people. You never did answer my question as to why you do not like me, after my first post you attempted to insult me and my profession. Is it because you saw I was a football player so immediately put yourself into a defensive mindset. I have not insulted you, even after your repeated insults against me. You tell me I should quit being a hypocrite when you have been a hypocrite from the beginning. Claiming this is America and that you have freedom of speech, even though no one challenged that right, but as soon as I say something you begin to bash me. Isn't that going against my freedom of speech?
Andy
Montana

My hero is superman because he's bullet proof and would never punch a baby or even a girl. And he has worked hard to get to his station in life and has helped out thousands of people during his long and difficult life. So please don't slander my hero's name even if I use it as my user name and have done absolutely nothing myself to earn that title. -Keith*
Superman <superman@fortressofsolitude.com>
Bremerton, WA America

Tony, I'm doing my best to reach out to you less fortunate members of the forum but you're making it difficult. I already said that I agree that just because ONE jock/football player is bad that doesn't mean they're ALL bad. What else can I say? But just because someone plays sports, it doesn't or shouldn't automatically make them an idol and it shouldn't be considered blasphemy to not worship them. There are lots of people who do good deeds and work for their community and their fellow man. In fact, I'm sure that the number of people who don't play sports who aid their community in some way FAR outnumber the few sports figures who do. By the way, thanks for helping me with David and Pwillie. They have finally stopped bothering me. You wouldn't believe the vile things they were proposing! If I were you I'd keep a close eye ball on those two. And, in response to your earlier post, I am NOT gay. I have a gf and she looks like 7 of 9 or Angelia Joile.
Tom

Tom, a lot of people follow in the footsteps of what sports heroes do. Some people get the title of sports hero from winning championships or just being good at what sport they play. Most get the title for what they are doing to help the community. Ravens LB Ray Lewis, arguably the best LB in the NFL, recently started a class to help prevent gang violence in Baltimore. Vikings Running Back, Adrian Peterson, arguably the best RB in the game, has hosted 11 special olympics since July. Numerous NBA stars such as Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Shaq, and Dwight Howard are working together to help bring food to storm torn cities, and help rebuild areas affected by hurricanes or tornadoes.

Don't judge others for their positions or even using a sports "hero" as a model. Some use the "heroes" that get the title for their abilities, but most use those who help others. Walter Payton was a great man as Andy said, while he is also known as the best running back in football history. Bears running back Brian Picolo was the same way, he loved helping his community and made the best of it. Then one fatal day he was diagnosed with a brain tumor and died. Many people use these people as role models so they can see how a good moral person acts. By criticizing every person who uses a sports star as model, you wrongly criticize those who are doing good.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Happy (contentious) New Year, i_like_1981. More than two points of view have been expressed here. In order to know where anyone stands in this latest controversy, you have to read all of their comments. The statement you quoted and have responded to -- namely, the one made by someone who called himself "Warewolf" -- does not represent the viewpoint of all the other sports fans here. This is the only comment Warewolf has made here. Just trying to avoid any misunderstanding.
Earl

Andy,
on behalf of oppressed people everywhere, I accept your explanation and apology. But you should think about what you're saying and don't be so hypocritical. Sorry about the nickname sweetness. I had no idea it belonged to someone who was above criticism --a sports hero (gag).
Tom

"If you have a problem with professional sports you are a completely narrow minded idiotic queef eating faggot."

Narrow-minded? Speak for yourself. At least we say why we hate sports and that is because people like you let them control their minds and become sheep! Then you come hassling us because we don't share this obsession of watching men in tights running round with a pig skin and fondling each other and call us "faggots" which I find complete and utter hypocrisy! I don't have a problem with civil sportsmen coming onto this site and explaining to us how we're wrong to dislike sports so much but when the insults are thrown needlessly and with nothing to back them up, well, I sling it back at them! Please, clarify your position. Why does not liking pro sports make us "faggots"? Why are we faggots for not spending our lives watching buff guys who get paid way too much money play a child's game? And what's so "idiotic" about not wanting to just follow the mindless crowd? In fact, it's the exact opposite of "idiotic", going your own way in life and resisting the ever-so-overwhelming influence of the common herd! It's the sign of a free mind, a person who wishes to do more with their life than just live through the accomplishments of other people and let these people judge what they should feel, think and do! In fact, I'd say you are the narrow-minded one, as you seem to show no regard whatsoever for anyone who does not share your rabid obsession with spectator sports! I think you watch far much more sport than you play and your dream is to be allowed into the locker room of your favourite team or player! Now how about you stop making an idiot out of yourself on here, follow your heroes and go chase a ball around! Or even better, go watch your heroes chase a ball around! They're the ones you rely on to live! GO, TEAM, GO!

Best regards,
i_like_1981

P.S. Happy new year. Am I a bit late?
i_like_1981 <i_like_1981@hotmail.co.uk>

Tom,
When I said I wanted to punch a baby, that was not meant to be literal. I have known the members of gridiron for a long time and they know the kind of guy I am and how I joke. I'm curious as to why you are using that excuse for not liking me when most of your negative comments towards me were before someone hyperlinked you to gridiron palace. If you don't like me that is fine, but at least have a valid reason because I have given you no reason not to like me. I have different views but I never once tried to shove them down your throat like you accuse me of doing. Also yes I was a little ticked when I made the topic on gridiron but not because you guys don't like sports, it was because of all the fake negative stereotypes used against athletes. As for making fun of my name sweetness, sweetness was the nickname of a great football player who played in the 80s, Walter Payton. He was not only a great player, but a great man who loved to help others. He passed away from liver disease inthe late 90s at a young age and he was and still is my idol. So if you are going to resort to making childish insults because of my forum name, or my future profession, so be it. I know who I am, and I do not need your praise to move forward in my life.
Andy

Tom, I'm curious... you apologize to me for misunderstanding me, but when Andy tried to say you misunderstood him, you and Sergey just went off on him...

That's because Andy who goes by sweetness (yuck!) in your forum said he wants to punch babies because we're so ignorant. But here he's all polite like we don't know what he really thinks and says in private. That's two-faced. But you were on the level and more mature. That's why.
Tom

i meant when you dont know my email and i dont know yours, typo....
David

If you have a problem with professional sports you are a completely narrow minded idiotic queef eating faggot.
Warewolf

LOL... How the hell would i be sending you gay emails when i dont know my email, and you dont know mine... Also LOL at you trying to be a bad ass by figuring out what my name is on a forum site. Good job dude, you are so cool. Now maybe put some use of it instead of sitting in your basement and wasting your life.
David

Tom, I'm curious... you apologize to me for misunderstanding me, but when Andy tried to say you misunderstood him, you and Sergey just went off on him... BTW, don't wanna confuse you but I'm not curious sexually. I am 100% straight.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Wait, how do you know that is PWillie?! and no he isn't... I know the dude, he isn't a creeper, and he is 100% straight...
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Oh sorry Tony. I guess I misunderstood you. I apologize. And of course the actions of one person should not color the reputation of a whole group. I agree.

BTW, do you know David or Pwillie52 from the gridiron forum? They both keep harrassing me by e-mail. Would you tell them I'm NOT gay or even curious? If you don't mind. Thanks a lot.
Tom

Tom, also, I read your earlier posts. You complain about Andy not letting you have your opinion, when he did.. and so am I. Now let us have our opinion about liking sports... you guys are completely pinning something that ONE (EMPHASIS ON ONE) sports fan did... not very many are like that... I read the waitress thing at the bar where she had her show changed to a game, that is ONE person doing that... don't pin the actions of ONE person on an entire group.
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Tom, GOD NO!! I have never heard of someone hitting babies! There is someone at our site that is like Sweetness54 so I thought that is what it said...
Tony
Chicago, IL US

You dumb ass... I don't know your email address, and you don't know mine. I kept it out for a reason bitch. Also I'm sure as hell not gay so whatever.

You and your total of 3 friends that are sitting in your basement can keep your site, doesn't hurt my feelings.

Also your opinions don't mean shit so whatever. As far as I'm concerned you are a 12 year old girl that has vag warts and AIDS...
David

Let me get this straight. You agree with sweetness34 about punching babies?? I guess I gave you too much credit.
Tom

"I'm sorry boys. The kitchen is closed. I cannot lower myself down to the level necessary to communicate with you apes from the gridiron palace. And actually, I don't think I want to correspond with guys who want to punch babies and call people who disagree with them, fags." Lol, so basically what you are doing? We are not apes, but civilized people... this is what I was talking about when I said that you guys call us jocks assholes, but then you go around and randomly insult them! BTW, what are you and David talking about?
Tony
Chicago, IL US

Wait, you may misinterpret that, by "I never said that at all!" I meant that I was not the person who typed that response that ended with the tag "vikingfan465"... that was my direction, but I do agree with what sweetness34 was saying.
Tony
Chicago, IL USA

Wait, how did someone get my username for Gridironpalace.com?! I never said that at all!
Tony
Chicago, IL USA

ok ok some of what you nerds say is correct and some is not. Most jocks are pretty cool if you give them a chance. I don't agree with what sweetness says. Most jocks do not feel that way. but give the jocks a chance is all I'm tryingn to say.
vikingfan465
Chicago, IL

I heard of this site from a football site. I have to be honest hear, some (emphasis on SOME) of these people are judging people for being assholes, while they are just calling them names and making fun of them. After reading some of the posts, it seems a lot like you guys HATE when SOME jocks do that. I am in no way, shape, or form trying to make you like sports... but coming from a guy who starts football and basketball, very few jocks are how you describe them. Sure, some (SOME) jocks are complete assholes (I have some at my school), but I would estimate less than 50% of all jocks are like that. Just because YOU hate sports, you don't have to despise others that love sports... I heard two people complaining that Andy won't give them their freedom of speech, while he was saying it's fine to hate sports. Those two people however, give off a vibe that they are trying to force their beliefs on to Andy. Again, I am not trying to force my beliefs on you guys at all, but based on how civilized Andy's replies were, I have a feeling those same 2 people that insulted Andy will do the same to anyone who opposes their beliefs.
Tony
Chicago, IL USA

I'm sorry boys. The kitchen is closed. I cannot lower myself down to the level necessary to communicate with you apes from the gridiron palace. And actually, I don't think I want to correspond with guys who want to punch babies and call people who disagree with them, fags.

Also, David, I just want to politely ask you here to stop sending me e-mails. I'm not gay and don't want to "try it". I will not respond to your private e-mails and will only answer you here in public.
Tom

(BTW your guest book cut out my entire comment except the last part) But you guys should seriously just hand this site over to Earl, because obviously he is the only one that has any sense in his head.
David

Reading a LOLbook like those damn girls that all they do is read and breathe twilight, and if you disagrees with one of their opinions you are a piece of shit and dont know anything. Grow up dude, get a life.
David

Sergey, I appreciate how much you want this website to be on our side; and I agree that people who don t like sports should be allowed to freely express their views and opinions on a website that they can call their own. But have you ever heard the expression He who is not against us is with us ? We can afford to tolerate a guest with a different point of view, even one who objects to something that we have said. Just as long as he s not abusive. Unlike SPORTS ROCK (our most recent abusive poster), Andy is not abusive. We need to distinguish between those who are abusive and those who are only trying to express another opinion. If we are intolerant of all jocks, then we have become the mirror image of the abusive posters who attack this website.

I was very prejudiced against jocks when I was your age. But I could also see that holding all individuals of a group responsible for the bad conduct of some (or even many) of the members is unfair to the individual. Growing up under Jim Crow, I realized that negative stereotypes were sometimes used to hurt those who were innocent, which does not mean that I equate resentment of athletes with the historic oppressiveness of racism and anti-Semitism. But the principle is the same. And I also knew that just as there are people who confirm negative stereotypes, there are also people who contradict or defy them.

One of my closest friends is a pro-feminist sociology professor who criticizes machismo for the ways that it shortchanges men as well as women. He happens to be a former university football player who is considerably more liberal than I am. He has even actively supported the homosexual rights movement. I found out about him when I was browsing around in a bookstore one day and picked up a copy of a book of articles and essays critical of the sports culture that he had co-edited with another professor. He had written an interesting article about his own experience playing football in which he expressed views that I never would have expected to hear from a former player. I called him long-distance and we became friends. That was nearly 30 years ago, and we re still friends. He s one of the kindest persons I ve ever met. If I had written him off just because he had happened to be a former jock, then I would have deprived myself of a dear friend.
Earl

Why don't you shut the hell up? Prisons were made for those unwilling to obey the LAW, and I have power over what is the LAW, so this forum is on my side, not yours, go play some shitty football but don't tell me please, and I'll be reading a book.
Sergey

Tom,
You claim this is America, land of free speech, so how come we "jocks" aren't allowed to voice our opinion? Isn't it just as bad for you to insult us as it is for us to insult you? That is why I refuse to insult either side, both sides have their own opinions, and this is America so I think we should be able to voice them as well as you
Andy
Montana

To quote Rodney King, that noted social philosopher of late 20th-century LA: Can't we all just get along? There are hotheads and haters on BOTH sides, which engage in mindless negative stereotyping. Never mind that there are decent guys on both sides. Individuals don't seem to count. No wonder I feel like I'm caught between two extremes. Beam me up, Scotty.
Earl

I almost punched a baby after reading some of the bullshit you people spew! Why don't you come over to my forum where real men hang out and try your lame arguments there. You wont' last five frikkin minnutes!

sweetness34

right on, sergey. Who do these muscle-heads think they have the right to muscle their way into our forum and tell us how to think? Last I heard this was still AMERICA! Land of the free, HOME OF THE BRAVE and free speech! Sure these goons have ONE example of a jock who isn't all bad. That's easy to say. BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, all the guys I know who are jocks at school, are pushy, loud, and abusive. And bullies. Sure maybe there's a few good guys that play football and are good students but, in general, they're the kind of guys you'd want to avoid.
Tom

David, you're a laugh, when we have a sports bore stereotype in our own forums right now, I don't think you should be talking, so do me a favor and FUCKING SHUT UP ABOUT STEREOTYPING YOU MINDLESS SACK OF SHIT! Yes, I'll insult sports fans because I want to, you're on this forum, and therefore MY word is law, not YOURS.
Sergey

Ight Tom listen, Andy is 100 percent right. Not every athlete is in to sports for popularity. Before you go make your rediculous claims, go out and poll athletes. O and while you are at it go search Michael Oher in wikipedia. He was born in a family that couldnt support him for shit, his mom was a drug addict and his dad died when he was young forcing him into foster care. He attended 11 different schools in his first like 9 years of going to school. Where is he now? Well he started playing football for his highschool, his GPA sky-rocketed and he was offered scholarships from well respected colleges, like Alabama, Mississippi State, etc. So throughout his highschool years the one thing that drove him was football. Was he a mean bitch like you claim all of jocks to be? Hell no he wasnt, he was respectfull, kinda shy, not even close you what you claim jocks to be. Well he was on the honor roll at Mississippi State his senior year and is now making millions in the NFL for the Baltimore Ravens... Now tell me how sports are gay, or are retarded or whatever, after hearing that story? It took someone who was less fortunate than most and put him in a position to succeed in life.

I play Highschool Basketball at my school, and hell no im not cocky, and i dont take pride in winning people that arent athletic. IN MY EXPERIENCE the people that arent on the court, or the field, are the ones that are making the biggest mess. Go look at all of the stoners, what do they do all day? Sit there and smoke and that is it. Then there are people that just sit down in their basement and dont get any physical exercise whatso ever and they get un-healthy and fat. Now they can do that if they want to, dont get me wrong, but why do you think that American kids are getting fattened up? Because they go to fast food places and go back down to their basements and play W.O.W. or whatever games they play.

Also the NFL and the NBA have programs that go out and help communities accross the nation.

So you can sit here and hate sports, nothing wrong with that. But all of the stereotyping, like Andy has said, is wrong and pathetic. You are literally doing what you think jocks do, just in a different way.
David

Tom, I understand how you feel. Believe me, I never had any interest in sports; and I used to be quite prejudiced myself. But we have to judge people as individuals, and I know that this is hard to do sometimes. Andy is obviously a kind-hearted person; otherwise, he would not have chosen nursing as a vocation, which is not easy work. Decades ago when she was in college, my sister (who, incidentally, was no sports fan) knew several of the athletes as friends. One of them, who played both hockey and football, was a pacifist off the playing field. As a pacifist he was the antithesis of a bully. He had been psychologically abused as a child and therefore had to control his anger. I don't know if his pacifism was based upon religious belief or philosophical conviction. I never met him. My sister just told me about him. He was aggressive in the game; but off the playing field he could not be provoked into fighting, because he knew that he had to control his anger. There are individual athletes who are opposed to bullying. For example, the Fellowship of Christian Athletes has spoken out against bullying in general. Believe me, I'm sympathetic to you. I'm just saying that some athletes don't fit the negative stereotype. I've actually experienced a form of healing when I've discovered that some athletes share my values.
Earl

I would like you to point out where I said that everyone should watch sports. I never once said that, I continue to stand by what I was saying, that it is is all a matter of opinion. I said I wasn't here to bash you guys, if you don't like sports no big deal. But you many of you guys are bashing athletes for things that they don't even do. But your stereotype of athletes. That is the only thing I'm telling you that you are wrong about. Not all football players are alcoholic sex addicts whose goal in life is to punish those who don't worship them. That is an absolute lie, alcohol has never touched my lips, and I've never done any drugs either. I've been in one fight in my life and it was in 5th grade when I put an end to a reign of bullying by one kid. I'm not a sex addict either, I have had one girlfriend for the past two years who I remain faithful too. If you don't want to like me thats fine, but at least have a good reason for it. Don't judge me based on the fact that I play football, judge me on the fact that I am a good person with a kind heart. I have devoted my life to helping people and that is why I am going to be a nurse. Bash me all you want for that I don't care, but when I graduate I am going overseas to help countries in need. Such as those in Darfur and Burma. If you feel you need to insult me because a jock or two has insulted you in the past, I'm sorry. But you shouldn't judge people based on the actions of few.
Andy <nursingbobcat@hotmail.com>

Opie,
You may not have said you were the greatest but your attitude implies it. Why are you offended that not everyone likes sports? Clearly you believe that they should or you wouldn't be here wasting everybody's time.
P.S. Disrespect is not a verb. It's a noun. Back to 5th grade and being picked last for you.

Tom

Earl, thank you for understanding where I am coming from and I appreciate your respect on the matter. You bring up valid points and I do remember times when the un-athletic kids hated the class. I was a very un-athletic child growing up and was picked last for PE every time, I still had made the best of the situation and tried to enjoy myself. I know that with many people who do not like sports this will not be the case.

As for Tom,
I never once said "I AM THE GREATEST FOOTBALL PLAYER EVER, BOW DOWN TO ME". I understand that after college is over, football is over. I have no wishes to play professional football. That is why I am working hard to earn a degree at this time so that when football is over, my life is not. As for your preconceived notion of what a nurse should be, that is your own opinion and you are entitled to it. I'm a straight male and pride myself on being the first football player to ever enter the nursing program at my school. It is a challenging program and consumes quite a bit of time, as does football. If you choose to disrespect me that is your choice, go for it. Doesn't hurt my feelings any, but I have not disrespected anyone on this board by the messages I type.
Andy
Montana USA

Oh boo hoo. Andy's feelings are hurt because a handful of people don't respect his awesome prowess on the field. Well, Andy, now you know how people who can't stand sports feel 365 days a year. Now say 88 Hail Mary's and go forth and annoy no more.
P.S. By the way, nursing is for girls. Maybe you should do a little self-examination and think about why you want to play ball with the guys.
Tom

As someone who supports the concept of a website for people who don't like sports, I appreciate Andy's comments below because they're reasoned and not abusive.

Andy, the talk about getting rid of sports is hype. We all know that sports will always be a part of the mosaic that makes up the human experience. The fake entry-level quiz is intended to be a joke. The traditional sports-centered approach in school P.E. only created tensions between the athletic kids and the nonathletic kids (who were often held up for ridicule and worse) and did nothing to promote physical fitness for those students who were the most unfit. It's a fact that different students have different physical fitness needs. I happen to support the innovative PE4Life program, which was created by (now retired) Coach Phil Lawler. I say retain the traditional P.E. classes for the athletically inclined boys and those who simply want to participate in sports as an elective, and provide P.E. classes of the type I just mentioned that actually promote physical fitness for the nonathletic kids, instead of just teaching them to fear coaches and athlete classmates. Again, your criticism is appreciated (at least by me); and I thank you for not being abusive.
Earl

I recently stumbled upon your site and would like to say that you people are a bunch of stereotyping hypocrites. I see a lot of people on this site call anyone who likes sports a homophobe, while some say they are fags because they stereotyped you as being gay for not liking sports, so isn't stereotyping them as homophobes just like them stereotyping you as gay? You also say that you are tired of people ramming sports down your throat, well isn't this site about getting rid of sports and bashing sport lovers? Isn't that like ramming anti-sports down sports lovers throats? I'm not here to bash anyone, I feel that if you don't like sports, then don't watch them, change the channel. Sports lovers put up with soap operas and such by not watching them. Doesn't mean they want to get rid of soap operas? How would you feel if someone decided to eradicate something you like to watch or do? Such as movies or video games? I also don't know where you guys get your facts on college football players, like the fake entry level quiz you guys posted about football players. I am here to say that I play college football for Montana State, I never once had to take one of those. I had to take ACTs and SATs and have good enough scores so that the college would accept me. Stereotyping us football players as dumb is like stereotyping all computer gamers as virgins. Yes it may be true in some instances, but it is not always true. I am a nursing major and currently holding down a 3.7 GPA, they have made no exceptions to me and I have had to work for every grade I received. I am not a scholarship kid and am paying my own way through college. I do however know many kids on the team come from poor families and would not have the opportunity to go to college and earn an education if it wasn't for sports. Sports motivates these people to keep their grades high so they can stay in school and stay eligible. To those who say that it defeats the purpose of an education to give out scholarships to athletes, let me ask you this, what about the kids that earn scholarships other ways like through music? Do they not deserve their scholarship? As for on the homepage where it says ban physical education class from schools, I think it should absolutely be mandatory for kids to do P.E. classes. Many people continue to say "I'm all for fitness, but not sports", I know many kids in grade school and high school would not do anything active if it wasn't for that hour every few days a week. We as Americans need to do a better job of getting our kids out and playing, then and only then, will we be able to stop mandatory P.E. class. When kids go play kickball after school, not go home and play video games for the rest of the night. Nothing is wrong with video games, I enjoy them myself, but people need to get out and play as well. Or America will continue on its obesity path. Once again, I'm not out to bash the members of this site, I just want to prove a point that not all athletes are dumb, and we work very hard to play at the level we wish to play at.
Andy <nursingbobcat@hotmail.com>
Montana USA

Stereotypes ARE pretty stupid. Brian Sims (a former college football player) and Esera Tuaolo (a former professional football player) are both gay. I wouldn't want to mess with either of them. There have been others before them, and there no doubt are others now.
Earl

But gays aren't supposed to like sports are they? The big comeback for a meathead jock is "if you don't like sports then you must be gay". I hate sports and so do my two straight brothers. My third brother loves sports and he's gay. Stereotypes are pretty stupid.
JIM

I am a gay homosexual and I was bullied a lot by jocks in school. I think they are hyper masculine homophobes. But I admit I like watching football because I like to watch the grown men playing with a little ball and touching each other. Some say it takes one to know one and I think most of these homophobic jocks are actually closet gays. I agree with "joe" about people who live their lives through others accomplishments, I can't understand such losers but there's a lot of them out there. As for the sports freaks / sports geeks, well enough said.
Gay Pride

Uh oh. The NFL Super Bowl season is about to start. Sundays nights never have gotten more boring than this. I hate the Super Bowl. And football is for fags

Seriously, sports is just a big waste of time.
PENIS
Chicago, tx

I have nothing against sport 'as a game'. I just hate the pricks that turn a simple 'game' into a life or death affair and think that everyone should care about 'the game' as much as they do.
Rafols

SpOrTs ArE a ToTaL lOaD oF sHiT aNd I tHiNk ThEy Sh0uLd AlL bE bAnNeD!
i hate sports :)

Sports = Narcotic of the nation
somebody <someemail@somewhere.com>

I'm a jock and I worship football. I thought maybe I could get some help hear with my mathamatrics? I need too no how many times 2 goes into 16. It are for a test tommorow. Thanks. ps, FOOTBALL FORE-EVER!
Jim

At my high school, everyone is absolutely obsessed with sports, to the point of insanity. They once paraded us outside, in the cold, so we could watch the football team leave for a game. I just don't understand the appeal of watching overgrown men and women bash into each other and kick a ball around!
John Smith

At the college I go to, there are TVs everywhere. At any given time, I'd say %90 percent of them are tuned into ESPN. I just don't understand shows about sports. A bunch of guys rambling on about statistics, injuries, and other things that don't matter in the real world.
Jordo

Good god there are few things in this world I hate more than sports. My biggest question is how come sports get so much coverage on the news yet any other form of entertainment (film, music, literature) is lucky to get a mention?
Keith Woodman <neurotickeith@aol.com>
Derry, NH North America

I love this sight ! finally people on my side, who hate sports shit THURST IN YOUR FACE AT EVERY TURN !
sean Warren <areelman@insightbb.com>
Louisville, ky usa

Once again my father didn't take part of the family Thanksgiving get together because he preferred to stay home by himself and watch the big football game. We were hoping he would go with us so that he could finally meet his only grandson (4 yrs old). Football was more important.
I wonder how much he enjoyed his leftover Hamburger Helper?
I'll never understand the mentality of a sports nut.
Jim

I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense. H.L. Mencken
Exe

Imagine the mindset of a human being who would be able to be "cheered up" by a football game the day after America was attacked! We're talking about VERY simple-minded people here folks.
Jim

No Glen, finding sports boring and preferring music, movies, etc more interesting doesn't make you "a freak" it just makes you normal. When everybody else in the freakin' USA is grunting in front of the Stupid Bowl, Easter Bowl or Toilet Bowl I prefer to stay in my room and play guitar, watch a movie with my g/f or read a book... It's a cliche to say "I'd rather watch grass grow..." but it's true. I'd rather sit in the backyard and look at grass grow than look at a bunch of fat, macho, butt-slapping, millionaires chasing after a stupid ball.
Jim

The 911 post brings back some memories for me. I used to be a producer of a sports talk show (I was kind of forced to, I was the only guy that was available during that time of day and they gave me a pay raise) and I recall that people were UPSET that the weekend football games were to be postponed because of the TERRIBLE events that took place on that Tuesday..These people said that we needed "Football" to cheer us up...

I hadn't felt that bad since I watched Rob Lowe dance with Snow White...
Mike

Yes this is what we have to put up with- hours of tedious football games and even more tedious people discussing it as if it is the only thing in life. I tried to like it and then realised it was boring. I love my music, films, cult TV and if this makes me a nerd, a freak, a geek, then so what. Better to be yourself than follow the sheep.
Glenn <glenn.aylett@btinternet.com>
Whitehaven, England

Down with Australian Sports!

http://blog.adonline.id.au/sports-funding/

A

SPORTS AND 9-11
I remember when the towers were attacked and the television announced, by scroll, that baseball season would be postponed for two weeks. Some moron at work couldn't understand why baseball was put on hold and he bitched all day on America's Worst Day. 3,000 Americans burned to death, were crushed and fell to their deaths but this sports nut still wanted his stupid baseball. It's amazing how shallow sports fans are. Pathetic. Shame on you simple sports nuts.
Jim

Good post Mike. I agree about how ridiculous it was for the meatheaded jock to insist the TV be put to sports while the barmaid was watching her soaps. All jocks would much rather watch big men in tight pants frolic and prance and pat each other (lovingly) on the buttocks then sit and talk to a pretty barmaid. Sports fans are selfish a**holes and MUST have their sports on the TV EVEN if everybody else in the room wishes to watch something else. Sports fans are too stupid to watch something like news or politics. There are no bouncing balls in politics.
Jim

Enough already...

I am sick and tired of having football rammed down my throat. I live in the nice college town of Fayetteville, Arkansas. This place has a lot of really nice restuarants, clubs, bars, AND A BUNCH OF GODAWFUL SPORTS FANS!!!!!!..Not only are people crazy about college and the NFL around here, THEY ABSOLUTELY LOVE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!!!!..There is nothing wrong with liking high school football if you are a teenager, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE WELL INTO THEIR 30's!!!!..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!..What a bunch of geeks!!!!!. I noticed a couple posts down that a poor barmaid had her favorite soap turned off so that some dumbass could watch sports..I bet that the dumbass was a typical annoying sports fan. He was probably single, and had no social skills whatsoever. Watching football will not help improve those two deficiencies in his character. On the other hand, a single man can learn from watching a soap on how to approach the ladies and be sought after. You are sure as hell not going to do that by watching some idiot play with a ball...
Mike

i hate sports. sports suck cock. i also hate the sportingnews forums because they are the biggest pile of crap forums to ever exist. i enjoy annoying the people on there with my stupid posts but the cowards dont reply to me. i thought bullies were more effective on their own turf? i may be wrong. this site rules. 1981 rules. keep up der good work.
i_like_1981

I hate sports for the following reasons.I believe that sports are a product of patriotism which only gives people another reason to fight which is what quite a lot of people do over a football game. Also you have to feel a little sorry for the players themselves. Some of them are fathers and cannot spend time with their sons or daughters. Also it takes away from me. Ever since John joined sports I haven't seen him. I can see why people fight over this...they follow dogma of a stupid team playing against another. IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER!!!!!! IVE HAD IT AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I CAN DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike <Michael.D.Giles@gmail.com>
Dracut, MA US

you know that it's ironic that so many of these homophobic sports lovers love labeling sports haters as faggots, queers, non-manly, et al. for the record, i am straight, but have no problem with gay people (horrors). but, note, i also do not participate in fantasy football/ baseball/ basketball leagues, getting erotically excited arguing about my favorite players stats that i have memorized in complete detail, from the first time that they tossed a ball to their dad through to the inseam of their pants and cup size.it's all very homoerotic, and likened to a 13 year old girls crush on her favorite rock star or actor.
as a side note, why are some sports manly to watch, and not others. as unmanly as gymnastics might be to these walking abortion mishaps, gymnastics is a million times more intersting than football to watch, and i bet a teenage gymnist (male or female) could beat the living shit out of all these macho sports lovers (now that is sports i would pay to see)
then there's the whole delusion that the fans are somehow a part of the team. i mean seriously, the whole "we sacked the shit outta you guys at the budweiser anal adventures bowl", and "we have much better ball handling than you guys" or what ever. the only things the fans have accomplished is making a bunch of guys who do honestly have skills very overpaid. i do not understand this obsessive delusional thought process.
i have athletic skills too. i enjoy running, climbing, water sports, skiing, caving, hiking, skateboarding. i'm in better shape than 99% of the douche bag sports fans that i know. i just hate watching dull sports like football, basketball, baseball, hockey, ad nauseum.

i am so tired of sports fans pre-empting and co-opting the tv o r any other event wherever they go with their righteous belief of entitlement. sports fans seem to believe even if there is a whole room full of people who hate or care less about sports, but one nutter who has to see his dream guy tackle a bunch of other big sweaty athletic men, everyone else should be subjcted to it, regardless of the situation -- whether it is another tv show, a party, family dinner for the holidays. i for one think they should have to get approval. of course, guys have tried to pull this off at my house, and they have been asked to leave. seriously. and don't come back. if your friends that came with you are mad, they can leave too. let him abuse your friendship for his sick addiction.
djmasturbeat

When sports fans don't get their way, they behave like kids. A barmaid was relaxing for a few minutes in the pub watching the soap opera Coronation St( OK it's pretty boring but a lot of women like it), but because an irrelevant football match was on a digital channel, some jerk decided to raise hell because he couldn't have some game on. Like, hello, can we have a break from football- this poor woman has to work through hours of this every week and on a Friday night should at least get a respite from it and so should non fans who are trying to wind down after a hard week at work.
Glenn <glenn.aylett@btinternet.com>
Whitehaven, England

There's nothing wrong with physical fitness or liking a physical activity, but why do we have to have football rammed down our throats non stop on the television and in pubs by fat knackers who look about as athletic as a beef burger. Meanwhile the footballers demand at least a hundred grand a week for a couple of hours work and sulk if they get less. These are greedy, immature men who should try living on a nurse's wage for a week- someone who does a real job for the community.
Glenn <glenn.aylett@btinternet.com>
Whitehaven, England

forget it earl. none of these sp0rts bores want a dialogue anyway. your efforts and tolerance are very respectable but you arent gonna get anything useful out of these sp0rts bores. let them play their crappy sp0rts and be arrogant jerks. oh and this is for jeme... go fuck y0urself !
gene hunt
1973,

Sports Fans = bench warmers

cause that's what they're really doing up on those bleachers, warming the benches
PENIS
Chicago, NY United States

yeah that it jocks & jockettes, keep flaming us
the more the marrier
anon
Austin, TX USA

Jeme, I was extremely tired when I read your "Query" because I had just finished a two-day drive to visit my daughter. So, the thought just occurred to me that you assume that guys who don't like sports have a "sour grapes" attitude because we tried to participate in sports but failed. Your assumption is false, of course. Most of the members of the forum who are critical of certain aspects of sports culture NEVER WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS. If you took the time to find out exactly what it is about sports (or, rather, certain sports), you might learn something. Otherwise, you're just being ignorant. You're also apparently insecure and have an anger problem. If you were a secure sportsman, you would simply disregard this website. As someone who does not agree with every comment about sports and athletes at this website, I will concede, though, that this website might hurt the feelings of those sportsmen who are sensitive. I'm surprised you haven't called us fags for not liking sports. That seems to be a standard response by guys like you. You really should register to post in the forum and abuse us to your heart's content. We'd love it! :-)

Earl
Earl

Video Games > shit > sports

GET A LIFE STUPID ASS JOCKS & CHEERLEADERS
sparta

SPORTS ARE ABOUT AS POINTLESS & BORING AS COUNTING SHEEP!
ALMOST EVERYONE I KNOW WATCHES THEM & THEY ALL ACT LIKE THEIR VERY LIVES DEPEND ON IT. TRUST ME, I'M ALL FOR EXERCISING & USING TEAMWORK. BUT IF YOU AREN'T PLAYING THE GAME, YOU'LL BE BORED OUT OF YOUR MIND. I'M GLAD I'M NOT ALONE FOR NOT BEING A SPORTS FAN.

PLUS I HATE HOW THE SCHOOLS "GO EASY" ON THE ATHLETIC KIDS ACADEMICALLY JUST BECAUSE HE CAN KICK A BALL WHEN THEY REALLY DO SO POORLY AT SCHOOL. WHAT A WASTE OF A EDUCATION!

ALSO, LET'S NOT FORGET SPORT VIDEO GAMES ALSO SUCK! IF YOU JOCKSTRAP FANS WANT TO PLAY A FOOTBALL GAME WITH HIGH QUALITY GRAPHICS, THEN GO OUT & PLAY A SPORT, GRAPHICS DON'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THAT!
NERD
Austin, TX USA

They are soooo boring I swear! I rather play video games (not sports video games), cause at least I'm involved in the game!

sports is pointless shit
Daft Punk fan
Austin, TX USA

How about a dialogue, Jeme? Seriously. That's what the forum is for. You should consider the possibility that you're making a wrong assumption about us. You don't even know any of us, and you really have no idea what our personal perspectives are. If you register to post in the forum, then you will be able to insult us even more. :)

Earl
Earl

i have an idea for all of those lazy azz sports retards...
sitting on the sofa cramming nachos and beer down your throat getting fatter and fatter watching real athletes run around a field for millions of dollars a years doesn't make you part of there team(you can remember there stats,jersey numbers,wifes birthdays,what ever you want ,they don't give a sah*t about you as long as you keep paying idiot)....why don't you get your fat lazy azz up and go live your own life and stop living through others accomplishments
joe

Those who cannot play........complain! We don't want you anyway. I can understand how being competitive, coordinated, agile, having on the spot thought process under duress and the feeling of pride and accomplishment can seem no fun and downright terrible.
Hear that .. it s your turn for underwater basket weaving. Go have fun little people.

Jeme Souviens
North Bay, Canada

Oh my Gawd. I thought I was the only one. What a relief...
I played hockey in my youth but never felt comfortable with it. When you live in a small town in Canada, it s the thing to do, or you re considered weird. Now when I happen to come across a hockey game on the tube, I just roll my eyes at all the misguided sheeple sitting in the stands. Does anyone else see the conspiracy in this herd mentality? I saw the new torch for the 2010 winter olympics and it looks more like a sword than a torch. All the money spent on sports would alleviate all the hunger in this world, many times over, not to mention what s spent on wars. I think I landed on the wrong planet because none of this way of thinking makes any sense to me. I m sure sports fans will be the first to line up for their H1N1 flu shots so they won t get sick and miss the big game. Good luck with that sports fan.

In the words of Howard Cosell, The importance that our society attaches to sport is incredible. After all, is football a game or a religion? The people of this country have allowed sports to get completely out of hand .

John
Peterborough, ON Canada

'Sports are 'ridiculous'. I'm 46 and I've never seen a football game in my entire life yet. I never even bothered going to see the morons play football in high school. I was sick enough of the jocks getting their sexual thrills of slapping the nerds in the bare butts in the locker room while TRYING to act like they weren't actually getting sexual thills out of seeing a naked guy. Why would I CHOOSE to see these perverts play a football game. Football players keep their sexuality snuggled up to their trophies...in the closet.
Jim <GALL87896@yahoo.com>
Fremont, CA USA

One reason I don't spend my life watching millionaires run along after little balls is because my father paid more attention to the rich ball-chasers than he did to his own children. My brothers and I used to need help with our mathematic homework so dad would help us. If we didn't come up with the right answer he'd slap us in the head and say "come on, dummy!" He'd be pissed because he was missing his precious sports on T.V. This was about 20 years ago and he is still glued to the T.V. admiring the drugged-up, millionaire ball-chasers and I still suck at math. Sports first, family second, (as long as there's no sports on T.V.) F'ing rediculous.
Jim <GALL87896@yahoo.com>
Fremont, CA USA

Thank God Baseball season is over. Now we get months and months of stupid azz football. Football fans are the biggest losers on the planet. Hey Raiders fan, what's 2 + 2? Get a calculator ya big dummy.
Jim <gall87896@yahoo.com>
Fremont, CA USA

The suggestion that municipalities pay for arenas is vile.
Evan D. Benner <6doublefive3two1@gmail.com>
Fresno, Ca United States

Nice site! LOLZ
Stinky
detroit, MI USA

Sports Suck. Today Is saturday, and millions of people will waste their time getting all worked up over some gay football game. If their team loses, they will all be in a bad mood and will act like little kids that lost their favorite toy. Since I could give a rats ass about football, I will be in a totally different world tonight, being very happy and looking for other things to talk about with the people of my town. All of you should look forward tonight to going out and NOT talking about sports, but other things...

Hot Chicks find this attractive (They are usually bored with their Sports Zombie boyfriend and are looking for fresh, intelligent subjects to talk about other than FOOTBALL)..
Mike

Thank you for showing us that we are not alone!!
Ben Seymour <benseym@gmail.com>

Sports are repulsive. Monday Night football, Tuesday night football, criminals like Michael Vick..

BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!...

SPORTS SUCK ASS AND SO DO THE IDIOTS THAT WASTE THEIR TIME WATCHING THEM!!!!!
Mike

I am forced to watch sports 24/7 by my husband. People die getting fit so it can't be good for you. Give me some intellectual stimulation - read a book, watch a good movie SOMETHING - I have been subjected to everything from street luge to netball.... aaaarrrggghhh
annette

I hate organised sport with a passion. I am not against exercising for personal fitness (although I find it boring) but the notion that we should all look up to athletes as role models or take sport seriously repulses me. Most sporting fans seem to turn a blind eye to the buffoonery which organised sport seems to encourage. Take a look at this latest incident as reported by Media Watch in Australia regarding 'The Footy Show' and it's idiotic personalities.
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2692254.htm

Sam Newman <lari@paris.com>
Melbourne, Vic Australia

In Alabama, the common question is whether you are "Alabama or Auburn". Last week, an educational professional approached me and asked me. I said I really didn't care about either. He said I must not be from around here because residents were one or the other. I have never let my mind be dominated by such a time wasting event. I would rather save my brain cells for more important facts. I don't watch fictional movies or most TV either. I love true life happenings. My philosophy on life is "You can make things happen. You can watch things happen or you can wonder what happened."
Lady Melanie
AL

Yes, I do. :)
Hey, t-flage. Join the forum so you can tell us exactly why we're wrong. We'd love to hear more.
Earl

See what I mean?
Ron McPlain

you guys are fucking idiots
t-flage

I believe sports to be distraction from who we really are. It s a way of separating us from the understanding that, we are all one. We are inundated with competition from reality shows on T.V. to the business world, in schools, commercials and advertisements to the wars now being fought in foreign countries. Sports as I see it, is the unseen war against creativity and individual expression. It s us against them and I believe it to be deliberate. Distract people from whom they really are and keep them in the herd mentality so they can be more easily controlled. Athletes are given outrageous amounts of money to entice the younger ones into the illusion of this ridicules Neanderthal way of thinking and competing. Wake up people!
Ron McPlain

No,I'm not this person you call choo choo boy or whatever i'm a random person from the /b/ on 4chan.
SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!
4chan,

All of you who hate this website, please feel free to join the forum so you can harrass us there and insult us to your heart's content. We'd love it. Flame on!
Earl

Choo-choo boy, is that you? It sure sounds like you.
Earl

I guess he doesn't have anything intelligent to say. If he did, he would register to become a member of this website's forum. (It takes less than a minute.)
Earl

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I don't hate sports, but I hate how they dominate our culture. While the dummies are watching football, our country is being taken over by radical abortionists, Socialists, Feminists, etc. The media promotes pro sports so that these destructive forces can take over OUR country. I wonder what percentage of the below average adult sports fan knows how much he pays in taxes to provide medical care to human animals in prison and abortions for whores and welfare witches? Not even 10%. Stop paying attention to sports and take your country back. The radical muslims are teaching their children how to murder you, and the dummies are teaching their kids that being good in sports is paramount to anything else. Sports fans, please turn off the tv and turn on your brain. Stop embarassing the decent people in the US who make this country work.
M.W.G.
Denver, Co USA

I agree with all the haters of sport, it is crap i mean my old pe teacher devoted her life to keeping and now her life is crap. i pity anyone who obsesses their life with sports and rugby and football it is THICK with a capital T
from jacob
jacob smart <jakiesmart@hotmail.co.uk>
peterborough, cambs UK

Well, there's absolutely nothing wrong with playing soccer with your friends. You did a good thing for those people in the Philippines. And I think that just about anyone would agree. Some people go a little overboard about hating sports just to bait people who take sports too seriously. Because some people do have an irrational attachment to and depend on sports too broadly in defining themselves.
Ray

Wow, some really interesting thoughts on here. What I would suggest is some of you don t just think about the sports played, supporters, lifestyles and sponsorships in your locality.
I agree that it can seem pointless when people bet money, cheer people that don t know them, and generally only focus on sports rather than education.
However, one comment, stating something like Sports are a moral cancer, rotting this world to its core really bewilder me

I ve recently returned from a Rugby Tour to the Philippines, where I took part in Operation Restore Hope . We were there to coach orphans in how to play the game, and how to improve their skills. These children were orphaned because of their facial disfigurements, and (it was thought) would never have been given gainful employment, and therefore couldn t assist their families with finances.
By spending some time with these young boys, we were able, for a short period of time, able to let them know what it feels like to belong. To be in a team, which can be much like a family. They could all take pride in pulling on a jersey and belonging to a team. Being High-Fived for scoring, cheered for making that tackle, and applauded for doing their best regardless of the outcome.

You know what I intended to go on, but will probably only be given some kind of abuse from someone. Just thought some of you might be interested to know that it s not all about over-paid stars, teams kicking a ball into a net for no reason, and hating competitive people.

Please think how for some people, this may be all they every have for a happy memory

LuvSport
England

wtf is with sports these days? people these days ask "do you play any sports?" when they meet a person. what is with that. you know what sports are STUPID. theres no purpose accept for competition and being healthy. so isnt competition what causes conflicts these days! whatever. sports are stupid thats all i can say.
I HATE SPORTS

What a refreshing bunch of people you are. I cannot help but think that if America put as much emphasis on important things like finances and healthcare as they do on which team Michael Vick was going to play for, we would be so much better off. I think high school sports should only be allowed if one's grades are kept at an appropriate level. Let's get back to what really matters, a good quality education.
John <johngable@verizon.net>
Lebanon, PA USA

I love the "Evolution Takes A Turn For The Worse" logo! Is there any chance of having this put on a T-Shirt with a picture of a particularly vile sports star? Michael Vick, for example.
Linda Harbison

Wow I'm glad I found this site. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind people playing the odd game of football or tennis, but what I've never understood is why people watch other people playing sports. What's the point of supporting a team? They don't know you, the players (in most cases) aren't your friends or relatives, so what's the point?! I don't even enjoy watching the World Cup, and frankly couldn't care either way if England won or not - it's a bunch of adults trying to kick a football into a goal, it's ridiculous.
Nick
London,

I EAT DENTAL FLOSS
Retarded windex drinking person

Sports are so gay. why do girls think sports in a guy are soo hott? i play fucking guitar, and let me tell you, playing and learning guitar is way fucking harder than kicking or catching a damn ball.
Alex Castro <milonakis13579@hotmail.com>

How unfortunate I am to live in a city as obsessed with sports as Pittsburgh. Even more unfortunate is the fact that I'm in high school. The only things that other kids talk about is their rank on Call of Duty 4 online (I hate that overrated piece of shit), or sports. I don't care about neither, so I only keep to friends who don't spend 24/7 talking about what the damn Panthers are going to score against who-the-hell-knows-who (they make brackets on the outcome of championships, and they actually bet MONEY on them, poor fools). Unfortunately, these friends are few in number, and because of their ignorant, obnoxious attitude towards sports, they classify anyone who dislikes sports are being subhuman (thankfully, I'm a pretty big guy, so few people have the guts to threaten me, but, should I be small, I would have probably committed suicide from the brutal treatment I would have received), so I became very anti-social. As a side-effect to this, my parents are constantly forcing me to try and socialize with these idiotic, ignorant goons, and this will not be happening anytime soon. Speaking of speaking to them, they speak in a foreign language, which sounds like a butchered dialect of what vaguely sounds like English. At a my school, however, sports are not only popular, it is also the only thing keeping the school FUNCTIONING. Our school has one of the lowest scores on the PSSA (the Pennsylvania standardized test), but the state lets the school run itself because of its successful athletics, which is otherwise known as a bunch of arrogant, moron jocks tossing a heavy inflated sack into a hoop mounted on a wall. Jocks may not flex their power at my school visibly, but they are almost always in the higher-up Honors courses and get grades they really do not deserve. Now, don't get me wrong, I get along with most of them, since they act like mostly cooperative people when they are not on the field. However, I almost ended up becoming one; because of my large size, some people believed that I would make a good football player (American football for those who do not live here), I was convinced to finally play football. And guess what? The jocks, who seem to know nothing academic, know ABSOLUTELY everything about the damned sport, while me, who gets outstanding marks academically, knows zip about American football. They used language that made absolutely no sense to me; thank God I was put as a lineman. I really disliked the whole experience apart from the players. Practice was strenuous, and the guys were pushy, and often touched me on the rear end during practice tackles. Why, I don't know (maybe because their orientation is in question). The coaches would often get in swearing fits whenever someone stole someone else's socks (and this happened often). I sat through the whole season, though, and when I signed up for high-school football, I saw the schedule; it made my mouth drop. I e-mailed the coach, and my application was canceled. However, when 9th grade ended, more kids started trying to convince me to come back, but my response stays clear-no way, ain't happening. Despite my experiences with American football, the same thing stays clear: how does someone stay devoted to a barbaric, idiotic activity such as a sport, instead of something worthwhile like academics, which will actually get you a successful job. People have literally ruined their lives on sports like football (both versions), rugby, baseball, hockey and basketball.

Bottom line, sports are a moral cancer that is rotting the world from its core. Unfortunately, it is in its late stages, so we need to fight as hard as we can against it and wish for the best, before it destroys us all.
frank
Pittsburgh, PA

Joe Skinny, what fucking era do you think we live? Hitler is long gone, you narrow-minded motherfucker. "Superior Children"? You mean gay fucking stereotypical jocks with an IQ below 70? What's so fucking superior about jocks? Theyr arrogance? Go drown in a kiddie pool filled with your own sperm.
Cristian <coxitos@Mailinator.net>
Constanta, RO Constanta

Hi Joe Skinny,
You obviously don't seem like a reasonable person so I won't be reasonable with you. I should have tried to be a bit more civil towards that Steven guy because he actually seemed prepared to show some respect to us and not just rant mindlessly. Perhaps he called me a loser but I did kind of deserve it. You on the other hand just seem like a total dick. "Superior children"? What the fuck are you on about? Your so-called "superior children" are just idiots who spend their days at school poncing around with balls instead of actually pissing working and considering other people's feelings and they'll most likely end up working shitty jobs. They're the real losers in life. They will not "beat" people in life like you say - they'll screw up and end up total fucking idiots like you, you dumb shit. Your views in the forums would not be appreciated because you obviously don't want to make a decent argument and just want to attack the people on this site without any decent backing. So kindly piss off and screw yourself. Fucking prick.
Katrin
Glasgow,

Thanks for the site ITS GREAT!! Me and my girlfriend cant stand sports at all and most of the people who spend all their time watching sports and memorizing every players stats and shit since 1950. Thanks for this site you guys.
DredgeGolgari <darkoverlord1337@gmail.com>
Denver, CO

http://www.interbent.com/images/professionals-payday.png

This makes me sick.
Pissed.
NJ

oh, and yah... IM NOT FAT. but on my way. jk. lol
molly

WoW! and i thought i was the only one that hates sports! they drive me CRAZY!!! i love this site! thx so much to whoever created it!!!!!!!
molly
CT UsA

Joe Skinny sez: "so my superior childern have someone to make fun of and consistantly beat in many areas of life."

You must be joking. Or just plain stupid. People with more important things to do than watch sports on TV are by definition more likely to succeed and, by extension, more likely to have your (apparently sports-loving) progeny working for them!

P.S. I'm not fat.
Ray
Stone Mountain, GA

Hello, Joe Skinny. For the record, I'm not fat; and I work out at a health club. The fact that you went to the trouble of typing your message 14 times would seem to indicate that you have reacted angrily to this website. You would be welcomed if you joined the forum as a member. If you would be willing to have a serious discussion without name-calling, I would be interested in hearing all of your views in detail. I don't agree with every statement that has been made at this website myself. We're actually a rather diverse group of people. In the meantime (if you're even reading this and especially if you have no intention of speaking out in the forum), your comments about having "superior" children who will make fun of others make you look bad.

Earl
Earl

Fat People-

If you are reading this you are probably fat. Please continue to sit on your ass and stuff your face while I enjoy the earth. Sit inside, watch tv and eat your woes away. Dont forget to pass on your fat genes and habits so my superior childern have someone to make fun of and consistantly beat in many areas of life.
Joe Skinny

SPORT SPORT SPORT SPORTS, SPORT IS GHAY MEJORLY I HATES IT SO FUKIN MUCH! Y SHOULD WE WASTE OUR SCHOOL TIME ON PE. WEN AT RECESS AND LUNCH IF YOUR ONE OF THOSE PPL WHO SPEND THEIR TIME WALKING AROUND OR DOING STUNTS U PROBABLY WALK MORE THAN 5 MILES A DAY!!!! AND SMOKERS HOW CAN U POSSIBLY EXPECT THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN OVER AND HOUR AND A HALF OF PHYSICAL MOVEMENT WITH OUT A SMOKO BREAK. YA'LL HEAR ME? SPORT SHOULD BE JUST AN ELECTIVE SUBJECT IN SCHOOL!
keisha katamine

I THINK ALL SPORTS ARE TOTAL RUBBISH. THEY SHOULD BE BANNED FROM TV. THEN ALL PEOPLE WHO TAKE PART IN THE SPORTS SHOULD BE PUT AGAINST A WALL AND SHOT AND KILLED.

Glenn
London, UK

Finally, I see that I am not alone.
screw sports fanatics

Forgot to mention a few things. The ranting is insane. You want to talk about something its about how was that game with this and that.. ok fine asshole then pay my kid for beating some cheating Xbox 360 game asswipe.. how about that.. they are fixed and everyone knows that.. but not the inbreeds that actaually like this mindless shit. Lets start with golf.. what a mindless waste of time.. or hockey.. (ok the entertainment is in the fights). If you like that then tune into the Jerry Springer show same shit and less time!! I have seen it all the sports watchers can`t get it up to please their wives. Sit eating potato chips belching and creamign give me a fucking beer.. (wonder why th¸eir wifes leave them).. most live in low life trailer trash parks.. the wife is to afraiind to leave them because of the abuse. If there were more females looking at this site and were seeing what is said they would just leave. They have 1 million options. LOSERS are sports fans becaue they could not cut th mustard and wanted to do so. WE the smart ones exercised our brians. I sincerely hope anyone that reads this bans sports.. Let those dumb fuck wanna be`s get a real, job. Slaves ike us. See the real world and use their brain is they have one. Make them jobless lets see what they can do. (when times get tough can they really get tougher) I really wonder!
Tony <oldstuff1967@yahoo.ca>
Peterborough, Canada

Hey!! Nice commets! Sports are the ecomonmys problem these pencil pushing lawyers, Doctors, Exec's are the total assholes that keep it alive to get a blow job etc. Its all who you know to get the BLOW.. all of us poor saps have to absorb all of the benefits thos jocks on the playfield get.. the statuim.. OUR yax dollars, the pay they get (IN FUCKING SANE) and our time (if we wannt to watch some show on TV and it is canceled because there shit is SO MUCH IMPORTANT then what we want to watch) Really wtf is up with that. These players earn more in ONE year then we earn in a life time really busting our asses... (MIllions). We get shit on by our bosses.. how fair is that.. because of what they can shot a PUCK OR TOSS A FUCKING BALL?? I can build things.. a nuke drops you think these ass coulkd do anything? What hold off the hungry people with a baseball, a puck or golf ball etc???. Not a chance! They would be at our mercy. My kid loves sports so be it. I let him as I let him be who he wants to me. With no influence to what I think. (He has a mind and let him think what he wants to).. He is in line waits 4 hours and then talks to the baseball player and he refused to sign his ball becuase the playerasked my son what did you think of thee game. My son said.. Ì am sure you could do better`.. the player was enraged. Tossed my sons ball to the ground and saiid ``I don`t have to take this from some punk assed low life`` consider me done.. fuck all sports.. Take a suck on the big one asssholes.. Over paid jackasss wanna bees.. I will never help you or support your sorry MFA.. fuck you!!
Tony <oldstuff1967@yahoo.ca>
Peterborough, Canada

i was thrilled to find this site. i despise them. i despise pro sports...athelets....coaches....sponsors....hate em all. Sports are great for kids...to keep them fit and teach them about fairness and fun...not for grown neanderthals. Millions of dollars go into this ridiculous industry. MILLIONS are paid to ONE SINGLE athelete. One dude who can catch a ball, put it through a hoop, or across a stupid line.
Pam Weimer <danpamzack@netnitco.net>
Hebron, IN USA

The flaw in these organized, acceptable indoctrination is extremely straggering and shocking in the sense of the ways and methods individuals within the society are in pursuation of it. How to define sport? meaningful competition?

The end result is miserable when one regards the mean to achieve...to achieve what? Power? Fame? Glory? The feeling that one get dominating another? Disgusting.
Texas Representitive
Dallas, TX USA

Well, I truly HATE sports. I think professional sport is played by stupid people who have nothing to to but play useless games. I hate when I hear in the bus people talking about sports, because there is no use of that kind of dialoges. Most of all subjects at school I hate P.E. I think it is unecessary thing. I am very dissapointed that many of money which our school has recieved was spended on improving some kind of stupid sport facilities while there are many more important things to improve in the building.
Most of all I am really, really worried about the fact that the mark of P.E affects on my diploma. Can you imagine such ... stupid situation: Somebody goes to a better college instead of me because he/she can run better!
Thunder
BG

So, then...I was correct to have the notion that sports are uber-gay and immature. Sports more than suck. Sports propogate violence, ie; Soccer. Under-pinning for Hooliganism. Basketball - what the fuck... Baseball - holy shit...a synonym for boring and steroids abuse. Hockey - pick up the fucking puck with both hands and throw it in the net. Use your skates as a weapon and cut any motherFushker who gets in your way. Football-queer scoring system and gay forms of man-handling each other. Tennis-snooze! Golf-triple snooze! Boxing-the most barbaric and uncivilized sport. Please enjoy your pummeled and damaged brain. Ultimate Fighting Championship - uber gay! Beachvolley - bad for the arches of feet and boring. Sports are activities for children. Nobody cares if you are "First" or "Number One" or the "Best". I have more important things to know than what a team or player did or what the fucking SCORE is. I don't like sports. I don't watch them. I don't participate in them. Fuck sports. Toss me a sports ball and I will blast it back in your face like dodgeball. Remember, the four D's: duck, dodge, dip and...duck! I don't want to hear you ask me, "Hey, did you see the game last night?" Fuck you and your fucking game inquiry. An appropriate response however, should be, "No, I didn't see THE fucking game last night, but I saw your wife's pussy spread eagle!" Fuck sports culture. Fuck sports celebrities. Go fuck a goat!
Marv Albert <sportsrgay@aol.com>
Bronx, NY USA

Wow. If only this site had been around when I was in school. Of course when I was in school computers were the size of freight cars and there was no internet. It's disturbing to see that NOTHING has changed in all these years. Oh, different terminology, neater gadgets, but when it comes to sports and jocks, it is the same as it ever was.
I am so glad I found this site. All these years I thought there was something wrong with me because I loathe and despise all things sport related. For the first time in my life I don't feel alone. It's nice. Keep up the fight.
john <honehead66@gmail.com>
murray, utah USA

Mike, thanks for the kind words. We have different points of view about P.E. because of our age difference. (I'm 58 years old.) I'm glad to hear that there have been some constructive changes since I was a kid in school. The problem I still have with P.E., though, is that forcing nonathletic, physically unfit kids to participate in competitive team sports is not the best way to get them in shape. What they really need to do is get on an exercise program involving some physical activity such as calisthenics, jogging, or weightlifting or a combination. This is a far more efficient way for nonathletes to become physically fit than participating in ball games. (Incidentally, did you know that not every sport exercises all the muscles of the body?) Think about it this way: Would you say that all students should take the same math class? Of course not. Math students range from those who need to take basic math all the way to those who are ready to take calculus. Students have different physical fitness needs, from those who are physically unfit (in one way or another) to those who are athletically inclined. I favor traditional sports-centered P.E. for the second group of students as an elective. Besides, the team approach does not work for those who are not able to play the particular sport in question well; and those students who have such classmates on their team end up resenting them, which sometimes even results in bullying. Also, not all school districts have the same P.E. programs. In a recent personal e-mail that he sent to me, Coach Tim McCord (who is one of the leading proponents of the innovative PE4Life program, which actually promotes physical fitness for all students) informed me that the old P.E. of my generation (which was particularly bad -- terrible, in fact -- for nonathletic kids) still exists in some school districts, and that much work still needs to be done to reform P.E. throughout the country. Hope you're not offended. We can agree to disagree. You sound like a good guy.
Earl

Earl,
thank you for your reply, your actually pretty nice. But I have an answer to your question. I know in my highschool and in almost every highschool these days have a workout room. There's an option to go to the workout room, or play the other activity that's going on in the main gym, which, i think is a good idea. So now I think the school systems have that message. But in elementery schools and middle schools there really aren't workout rooms, i believe the reasoning for this is that kids may be bad at football, basketball, baseball, but eventually discover their good at tennis or volleyball. I think schools still force everyone to participate in a sport in gym before highschool is so kids may discover something they love to do, or what it's like to be part of a team. Life is all about being part of a team, marriage, friendship, having peers/coworkers. I believe the system is fine how it is now. Your questioning of how physical education is used in school systems is no longer an issue, maybe 10 years ago, but not anymore.
Mike H
Hartford, ct America

Well, Samantha ran away because she is so stupid. Everyone knows the only thing jocks get are cheerleader sluts, enjoy loving sluts that smell like you! Hahahaha! Samantha, games help society opposed to SWORTS!
Sergey

Somebody should figure out a way to break into ESPN's signal with SOAPNET!!!!!!

That would be absolutely HILARIOUS!!!!!!!
Mike

Sports fans are stats keeping idiots who bore me to tears with their unsavory commentator like dissertations about certain teams or players. I wish for just 1 month that there were no sports to talk about and they didn't even exist so these people would shut the hell up. It's the only way they can pretend to have the tiniest hint of a brain. Without sports, they would be dribbling cabbages, lettuces or whatever vegetable you choose.
Craig Medlin <medlinwsp2m@gmail.com>
Florence, SC US

The question that I raise is the following: Why should nonathletically inclined boys in mandatory P.E. classes be forced to play ball games (which are supposed to be a form of recreation), instead of being given the opportunity to become physically fit (which historically has NOT been done)? Traditional sports-centered P.E. should be an elective for those kids who WANT to participate in sports.
Earl

Hey Korn, you may not like sports bu that doesnt mean all sports suck. Hell i know people who hate sports but they dont complain when they have to play them. If only you could see the joy most people get when they play sports with their friends you would understand the simple fact that sports are good for everyone, some may not like them but they still play and have fun.

Thanks for your time,
Cody
cody

and also it doesnt seem this website is trying 2 ruin fun since its for sports hater and im a sports lover and i have quite a bit of fun on here haha and its obvios some sports fans are so stupid when you see all these fights in the crowd ha only tohught of that cause i just saw it on tv like 5 seconds ago
larry33

Mike, as a relatively new supporter of this website, I can assure you that none of us is suffering under the delusion that we can get rid of sports. Believe me, we're not trying to ruin anyone's fun. Some of the comments here are made in jest, and we have different points of view. This website is simply a ranting board for people who have no interest in sports. Some of us are even following physical fitness regimens. You are to be commended for your civil tone. It is appreciated. :)

Earl
Earl

Sports shouldn't be taken out of schools and not be attented to anymore thats ridiculous. If you don't like sports, don't watch em. But don't ruin other peoples fun, i'm 15 and all year i look foward to football season so I can play/watch it on television. I'm not some stupid person that needs an easy college entry form like your site says, i'm actually number 6 in my class of 2012. If you have some horrible memory of being picked on by a jock in highschool and that's where all this anger comes from it's time to let go, because if you think about it logically your never going to get rid of sports, or them being televised. Too many people love them, it's that simple. All i'm saying is its cool to hate sports, but don't ruin other peoples fun.
Mike
America

I give up. I'll leave a message. Most of us happen to endorse the innovative PE4Life program, which actually promotes the physical fitness of nonathletic kids (unlike the traditional sports-centered approach) as well as student athletes.
Earl

Do you really think removing PE from schools is a good idea. I mean its cool that you guys don't get into sports but maybe kids need the exercise. Chances are they are not getting it at home.
Chris Moody <moodycj@gmail.com>

I knew there had to be other people that felt the same
way that I do about these channel grabbing thugs. I'd like
to see a "HEIDE" event more often.
Ronald F Anderson <rfander1@msn.com>
Gilmore City, Ia USA

korn your mouthing off behind a computer screen, so shut up you loser.
person

earl is cool katrin is a loser
steven

yeah, their not tough at all. their wussies!!
korn

You sports fans are obviously not the hardened ruffians and bullies I thought you were if you get offended so much by a woman swearing at you on the internet! You did come here to abuse and moan at the site, so I didn't think you'd be too shocked if I gave you some shit back! Obviously I thought wrong...
Katrin
Glasgow,

Pat (and any other critic of this website), you're not going to understand what this website is really about by just taking a cursory look at it; and the Guestbook is not the place to answer such questions or objections. Please register for the forum, and address your comments to me or any of the other moderators.
Earl

this video proves my point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERHRb98ucmw
troy

you dont even know where i live, and you shouldnt plan on punching me cause of this

PPG RPG APG
28.4 7.7 7.4
and the cavs have 60 WINS MAN. the heat have what 25 come on.

troy

Yea well we willl see when they pick the MVP and if they pick Dwayne Wade IM going to punch u
pat

pat did u watch sportscenter today? i think you didnt cause if you did you would of watch the 15 minute discussion with the NBA analyist and they all and i mean ALL agree that lebron was this years MVP. SO SUCKA ON THAT PAT!!!!
troy

so i have a question for all of you why do you hate sports soo much wat has sports done to affect you or your life because you should have a reason to hate something but it should be a good reason to
pat

i like sports
Anonymous
US

Dwayne wade all the way
pat

Katrin and Steven, each one of us is an individual whose own point of view has been shaped by different experiences. Please don t make the mistake I fear that I recently made when I submitted a post at another website in response to someone else s post. Since facial contact and voice tone are lacking, reacting to posts at a website is not an ideal form of communication. There is the potential to misunderstand or misjudge the other person. If I encounter an individual who happens to belong to a group of people whom I ve had good reason to resent or who appear to denigrate something that I enjoy or hold dear, my first reaction might be to regard that person as The Enemy. I ve done this many times. But if that person is respectful, then we should reciprocate. Even if he is not respectful, we should attempt to reason with him (which, granted, may be a vain attempt). Also, we should remember that many of those who are extremely angry have suffered a deep hurt that most people may not even be aware of; and some people may do a lousy job expressing what their point of view really is, and might even create a false impression. Speaking from my own experience, I know that if there is anger on both sides, there will not be any understanding. Verbal fights can be entertaining and may even be amusing, but often create more heat than light. Steven, I d be glad to answer any questions or objections you might have in the Forum. It doesn t matter which Topic you choose; I won t miss your post. Just don t expect an immediate response. My life doesn t revolve around the Internet either.

Earl

but its not only sports fans talking shit its also the people who hate sports and i know that this website is for people who hate them but its like all they are dong is saying completly pointless things that have no reasoning besides hurting each other but whatever i guess i think you could be a little more open minded katrin since that im not showing any of you any disrespect
steven

The reason we show disrespect to you sports fans is because some of you are the thickest fucks known to man. Now I'm not saying all of you are, but some of you couldn't shoot a barn if you were standing inside one.

Have you seen some of this year's letters from a guy called "Harold"? He is without a doubt the most stupid dickhead I've ever seen. He hasn't got a clue what he's on about and just goes on about people being nerds, fags and how not liking sports makes a person not worthy to live. He hasn't got a fucking brain cell in his fat head. Even bloody Samdaman gave some half-decent backing to his arguments - that moron only moaned and jeered and his fucking pathetic contributions are just going to be laughed at because of their lack of reasoning or coordination. I laughed at them. Hope he gets flattened by a steamroller - the world will sure be one idiot short after that!

I guess the 1% of you sports fans who are stupid give the rest of you a bad name. Life's unfair, isn't it? Oh well, we all get screwed once in a while.

Laters.
Katrin
Glasgow,

and thanks earl for that and im not really a critic of this website but i am of the disrespect and ignorince of some of the people on here and ill be sure to check out the forums
steven

hey korn how bout you read no one on here is even talking about watching football i just dont understand this the main page talks about hating watching sports but nothing wrong with just playing with friends but on the guest book everyone is bashing the fact of even playing sports at all why does everyone have to be so igrorent why cant we both just respect each others oppinion without picking on them because to be honnest i love sports they give me a reason to work hard on my grades so i can play and im sure they help keep alot of other people on track also and i understand why somepeople can hate sprots because they keep hearing about them but theres no need to look up every bad thing you can find about them like this korn guy if you hate sports then why are you watchin the way fans act about them i dont go looking up the way people that dont like sports act i just think everyone needs to grow up and im not saying that there is anything wrong with this website because i respect people with a common feeling having a group thing but i just thing you people could be more civil about it.....hha that was long i guess im not expecting anyone to readd allt his
steven

Chelsea and any other critics who are interested, please go to the Forum and express your views there. Otherwise, you'll hardly receive any feedback from us here. For those of you who want to insult us, I think you'd have more fun in the Forum than you will here. To participate in the Forum, you'll need to register first. Click on "Register" to begin the registration process. Once you've registered, scroll down to "Off-Topic" and click. On the next page scroll down just a little bit and click on "FORUM RULES" and read them so you'll know what is expected of you. Clicking on "FAQ" (which is on the same line as "Register") might also be helpful to you.
Earl

hey cody, ALL sports suck, and anyone who gives a shit enough to watch them is a piece of shit because they're boring as balls. The people who are die-hard fans are fucking annoying.

Especially the douche bags who know all the players in the NFL and shit.

But NOTHING is as fucking queer as Fantasy Fuckin Football. Get a fucking life you fucks.
korn

watch THIS youtube video!!!

a HA HA HA HA!! sports fans SUCKKKKKKKK!!!

Sports Fans Suck
Korn

korn

And another thing katrin why are you the one sitting on your lazy butt typing swears and using all this foul language against us? We arent the ones sitting there all day typing to people on this stupid websites when there are more people in the world who like sports while you nerds try to ruin it... but t will never happen because we actually enjoy having athletic skills and enjoy playing sports esspecialy basketball!!!! WOOHOO BASKETBALL RULES AND YOU NERDS SUCK!!!!
Cody

Sports rule, the reason why you dont like sports is because you have no athletic skills what so ever... dont judge anything until you actully try it. SPORTS RULE>NERDS SUCK
Cody

first that is a college roster, they dont get paid. next im is school and i found this sad excuse for a web site so i had to throw another option in here. Another thing Katrin
you need to watch your langue. when you swere foul langue you dont sound intelligent or intimidating. Also tring to pick a fight behind a screen has no point to it we will probably never meet so stop talking like your so tough.
troy

watch this youtube video

this guy rocks! sports fans SUCKKKKKKKK!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWXfwubIF64
Korn

and by the way katrin yuo pick on our ways but foul language is a sure sign of ignorince! so if you want to prove a point try being civil about it
steven

i think our world is so much better with sports without them we would have so much more criminal activity i cant count the number of times people say how sports keep them out of trouble basketball can keep kids out of gangs and into the courts i know if i didnt have basketball i would be dead by now so how dare you people shun our only life line
steven

Oh yes, Troy, one more thing. You say "Get a life instead of sitting in front of the stupid computer." What the fuck are you sitting in front of to type that message? And why are you on a sports suck website if you love basketball so much? Fucking gimp.

Take your stupid sports and rosters and stick 'em up your ass!
Katrin
Glasgow,

By the way, Troy, we don't care about your stupid fucking roster. I couldn't give a shit about any of those overpaid dickholes on that friggin' list of yours. This is an anti-sports website and your "line-up" is getting in the way of proceedings. If anyone else comes onto this site and clogs it up with their stupid sport crap, I swear I'll do time!
Katrin
Glasgow,

Good to see more comments hitting the guestbook.
Shame none of them are good! =(
Katrin
Glasgow,

this website is one huge peice of crap. Where geeks are gods. Ah cause ever where else you get your asses beat down by everyone. get a life instead of sitting in front of the stupid computer. GET LAID!!!I AGREE with the other troy that was a good game, but who didn't see that coming. NOVA'S SIMPLY NASTY!!! LOOK AT THIS ROSTER...

1 Travon Woodall
5-11/190 Guard FR
2 Levance Fields
5-10/190 Guard SR
3 Jermaine Dixon
6-3/195 Guard JR
5 Tyrell Biggs
6-8/250 Forward SR
11 Gilbert Brown
6-6/200 Guard/Forward RS SO
12 Ashton Gibbs
6-2/190 Guard FR
14 Sean Brown
6-4/215 Forward SR
21 Ryan Tiesi
6-2/185 Guard SO
22 Brad Wanamaker
6-4/205 Guard SO
23 Sam Young
6-6/220 Forward SR
24 Tim Frye
6-4/200 Guard SO
25 Dwight Miller
6-8/230 Forward FR
35 Nasir Robinson
6-5/220 Forward FR
45 DeJuan Blair
6-7/265 Forward SO
52 Gary McGhee
6-10/250 Center SO

BLAKE GRIFFIN IS THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER I'VE EVER SEEN...WELL BESIDES ME. BUT I DIGRESS, SPORTS ARE AWESOME YOU CLUB MEMBERS ARE PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

troy
america

i dont get why you people have to come on this site just to ruin it for us people who dont like sports you have the whole world to talk about sports events and your boring lifes that are indused in sports all we are asking is to be able to have our group and share our oppinions about sports because sports suck and im sick of hearing everyone talk about them all the time
troy l

did anyone see the games last night i cant beleive duke lost but i cant wait 2 watch oklahoma
steven manwaring <stevenman@wildblue.net>
g, vt williamstown

I don't understand why it is such a bad thing to like watching sports. What if you have a loved one that plays? I watch my brother play wheelchair rugby. and before he was paralyzed i watched him play football. I watch my boyfriend and my friends play. I'm a bad person for that? Can someone explain it to me Please??
Chelsea
Miami, Fl US

I don't like sports and I'm not jealous of anyone. At least not anyone whose only achievement is paying to watch other people achieve something. And we are making a difference. We made you aware that you're annoying the heck out of everybody around you. The world is now a better place. Now please shut up and go away.
Ray

everyones gay that doesnt like sports just cause you people are retarteded nerds doesnt mean you gota be jelous of the people that arent lazy shits like you because we have a life besides losers that just sit around all day so stop being retards and worrying about this cause all your litle fan grouyps wont change the fact that ur a loser if your not good at anything eccepially sporrts
steven manwaring <stevenman@wildblue.net>
i dont know, vt basketball

You are all unrealistic.
i dont play sports, and i'm not an outcast, i have just as many friends as people that play sports. People get into sports to have something to do. it gives them something to look forward too. and for the players, they work so hard to win the games, it gives them a sense of accomplishment, and working together on team.
are you poeple mad that you weren't good enough to make a team in highschool?
Get over it. Sports are not what your making them to be.
Chelsea <cbrennan@onsu.org>
miami, fl United States

I live in one of the worst cities in the U.S. - Gainesville , FL; home of the Florida Gators. I have been witness to some of the most god aweful displays of idiocy on a weekly basis since 1995 - the gathering of Gator fans. They range from the social sellouts to the hardcore neanderthals who believe sports are the end all to life. I hate sports fans, especially college and professional sports. Tossing their arm chair expert opinions around on the 'big game'. Their inane attempts to appear intelligent by offering their in depth analysis of a team's season performance using player names and statistics. These people are pure idiots. The majority are wannabes and are pathetic sheep who just want to belong to something they think is better than them.
Mikel
Gainesville, FL USA

nah, bill, katrin is right. sports r a totl waste o time and i dunno y u wanna watch em when u've got more important things 2 do. btw, nice site. its gettin quite popular here in glesga noo!
cheers,
dickie
Dickie Fingers
Glesga, Scotland

och katrin, ye were always the one to moan at sports! to all ye nurds on this site, dont listen to katrin, she doesnt know anything aboot sports cos shes a wee fool who cannae throw a ball! we r friends but she really needs tae get wi tha times! i dunno if any of ye here could last in a fight, here in glesga ye'd get yer wee arses kicked into porridge! particularly when rangers and celtic are playing each other. always time fer a bit of arse kickin! i meself dont fight cos its not part of tha game, is it? sorry, forgot, u lot would nae know aboot it, bein sports haters. i cannae wait until the 2014 commonwealth games here... it'll be great and glesga will be all over tha news! five yeers tho... shame. i dont think katrin'll be there tho... nae, she'll probably be sittin at home drinkin tea and gettin bored! she's gone roond tellin everyone aboot this site... thinks its great. aye, it's not a bad site, to be honest, but she is kinda right - ye're not gonna eliminate sports. theres too many of us aroond fer that! ye cannae do it, so i suggest ye just keep dreamin'. laters.
scots lad
Glasgow,

I am so relieved-I thought I was the only one who didn't like sports....or at least didn't pretend to like them! I can think of no greater waste of time and money than sports. Athletes are obscenely overpaid for throwing a ball around. I find sports to be so mind-numbing, I can't put it into words. Thanks for having a website for people like me!
Kristine <lara7474@yahoo.com>
Oswego, IL USA

Don't get a lot of comments here, do you?
Best spread the word on this site around Glesga!
Best of luck to you all.
Katrin
Glasgow,

Superbowl or SuperBORE? Watch the new video!

http://ca.video.yahoo.com/watch/4409035/11823786

DVO

The International I Hate Sports Club! Love the name!
Greetings fellow earthlings. Let me tell you a bit about me...
I hate sports. I am a 26-year-old nerd with acne, glasses thicker than The Lord of the Rings and I am currently writing data conversion software now. Some mean jocks have kicked their stupid football through my window today and it hit me on the head. I went after them with a book and pencil and got beaten to a pulp. They then came in and kicked my 50-inch plasma TV and stole my wallet. I wish I weighed more than 90 lbs! Then I could have fought back.
The jocks at school liked to torment me. They liked to try my glasses on and do impressions of my voice and drop chewing gum on my copy of A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking whilst I read it in the library at lunch. I hated them all! I refused to go to the school leavers' prom but everyone just came round and bombed my house with eggs that night anyway!
I was also bad at sports. I couldn't pick up a 1 kg weight in gym class and when I tried the treadmill at 10 km/h, my legs got tangled up and I was sent flying into a shelf of weights behind me. I failed to catch one single shot in basketball class and at the end of one game, all the big mean jocks ganged up on me and pummeled me with balls. I dropped to the floor with my nose, arm, glasses and ribcage all broken. Two weeks after that, I got my shorts pulled down in swimming class and then had my head flushed down the toilet by the big mean jocks. I hated my childhood.
I hate sports so much. They have made my life so hard. We should all do fun things like algebra and data encryption and that number one hobby that I have loved the most since the day I was born in 1982 - READING!
I love to read.
Live long and prosper.
iSpod
Providence, RI USA

I do not like sports. Things like football suck monster donkey cock and so do the sheep that follow them.

However, it is futile to try and get rid of them. It's never going to happen. They're just too damn popular and influential. It's like trying to get rid of all the suffering in the world - impossible, cause it's just too widespread. Sports dominate modern society and unfortunately we've got to live with them.

This website will never win. I like it here but it's pathetic to even try to fight against the massive power of sporting in our society. I will continue to hate sports but getting rid of them is, to be honest, fucking hopeless, and anyone who thinks they can do it is a total moron. You need to get to grips with reality here. It's like taking on the whole US Army with an airsoft gun.

I've put up with the odd sport-loving fucker in my time and it's pissed me off. Back in 1982 I went to a party full of them. It sucked. Boring as hell. But it made me realise I was outnumbered in my hatred of sports. For every 1 sport hater, there are about 50 sport lovers. You can't win. I gave up quickly. In 1983 I went to my first football game. I fell asleep after about five minutes. Can't even remember who was playing. Can't even remember seeing them playing. Totally crap. But I don't think the other 49,999 people at the game would have agreed...

I will tell you this once to anyone who thinks sports can be eradicated. They can't! Give the fuck up.

Still, the website's given me a good laugh and I shall be returning here. And if any gloating footy-loving bore comes to me and tries their "GO UNITED!" crap on me, I shall SET ABOOT THEM!

Laters.
Katrin
Glasgow,

Looks like you guys are making a difference. My roommate is watching the Miami vs Baltimore game and keeps screaming WHERE ARE THE FANS???? MOST OF THE SEATS ARE EMPTY!!!
Keep up the good work.
Zorro

Long live Technology.
J,V, <deathmessiahwow@Yahoo.com>
Midland, TX U.S.

As a kid growing up in Pennsylvania, my experience with Sports was extremely negative. I received no encouragement whatsoever when I tried out for Little League, and my grade schools Basketball Team. Consequently, I dropped out of both events and nobody gave a damn. As a consequence I grew to hate sports, and I ignore it. Yesterday's Super Bowl was just another Football game as far as I am concerned. Needless to say, I did not watch it.
Rich <rikmrk1@peoplepc.com>
Indianapolis, IN USA

an interesting and factual commentary on the origin of football..

http://www.www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message711746/pg1
Banned

Back in the day rock stars did get all of the girls because Sports was not on 24/7...

The only sports figure that I recall getting alot of attention was OJ Simpson and look what happened to him...Like I posted earlier, I am a casual fan, but I RARELY will sit down and watch a game, especially a football game.....I am glad that this site is here because it is GREAT!!!!!!.....I also cannot stand the unfair judgement that if you are a guy and you are not 100% into sports then you are gay...I actually had this happen to me once. I had a totally horrible neighbor who I used to make small talk with every now and then. After the guy moved away I learned that he thought that I was gay because 1. I was a musician 2. I did not like football...

I saw the guy again about a year after I found out that he was a total loser and he was still single and was still judging...I am sure that he got a real kick out of seeing me with my girlfriend...
Mike

Sport is a complete an utter abhorence, not only do i have a problem with people watching it on television, but i also have a major problem with people focusing all their attention on sports people. I remember back in high school it was the same, spots people always got all the attention, the old saying that "rock stars get all the girls" is simply untrue, most people dont realy care about good music at all.

Quiet frankly i find sport to be robbery from areas that actualy matter, people give their time and money to something so completely devoid of purpose like sport when they could be giving that time and to areas such as art, music, film.

As a musician myself, i feel i am being stolen from every time someone pays money to go and see a football game. Its such a shame that the majority of the human race is unthinking, unknowing and generaly displays cattle like characteristics
dougydarkangel <andrew-rutherford@hotmail.com>
Tamworth, NSW Australia

Please forgive the typos I was working on my rant half asleep, I had little sleep the night before
Joseph Thompson <josephthompson1@optonline.net>
Bronx, NY USA

First off:
When I was growing up the male members of my family expected me to be a brain-dead child into sports and I fought with them tooth and nail until they gave up. To all children similar to myself, there is a light at the end of the tunnel and DON'T GIVE UP! And also remember that any stereotypes placed on you as a result of not liking sports is a steaming pile of bull-crap. Just be yourself and don't let other people bring you down.

Second order of business:
I have noticed that sports have clogged the television airway like cholesterol, blocking out useful, beneficial, cultural and entertaining programming from being aired especially on the weekends.
The sports people should be satisfied by having cable channels dedicated to their mind numbing form of "entertainment". Since they have their own channel and leave the rest of us our own form of programming on television.

Last off:
Sports in high school have no real purpose and should be removed from receiving funding from tax payer funds, and should only get money from people who participate or go to see these overgrown baboons run around like idiots with a ball in hand. If I want to see something like this I can go to the zoo. The point is the tax payer money should to activities that stimulate the mind, like the arts and sciences, and to help prep high school students for college.

For all the morons out there who think just because your a male you like sports. NEWS FLASH "NOT ALL MEN LIKE SPORTS SOME OF US CAN'T EVEN WANT TO SEE IT FOR 1 LITTLE SECOND" and also get this through your thick head "NOT ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT INTO SPORTS GAY OR A TRANSEXUAL" PASS THE WORD!

Joseph Thompson <josephthompson1@optonline.net>
Bronx, NY U.S.A

I just stumbled across this website recently and I think that it is absolutley HILARIOUS!!!!! Being a broadcaster, I will admit that I am a casual fan of sports, (my first job was a producer of a sports radio talk show), however, I do not let it totally control my life. Every thing on this site is funny as hell. The one thing that really gets to me with sports is how they showcase high school football players now. Back when I was in high school, you might just see a paragraph about little Billy, but now they get FRONT PAGE TREATMENT!!!!!....totally ridiculous.

I do not think that anybody on here has mentioned television coverage of THE LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES on ESPN!!!!! I have actually been in a BAR with this stuff on...and people LIKED IT!!!!!!!

I highly recommend going to a sports bar to pick up hot women. Think about it. There is a smokin' hot blonde at the bar, and all of the sports zombies are hittin on her, then all of a sudden, some coverage comes on the 10 television sets about some overrated 19-year old who is famous because he jumps on people. I guarantee you that ALL of these guys will be distracted away from the chick by coverage of Little Billy, leaving her free. That is when you make your move....

Another funny tale of sports and women would be a couple of years ago when that hot blonde from "Desparate Housewives" did some kind of hot, steamy pre-game intro on "Monday Night football"...

The sports zombies ( You know, the guys that spend ALL DAY saturday watching football, then ALL DAY sunday watching football, then have to watch a game on MONDAY NIGHT!!!!!)..found this clip of the lovely Nicollete Sheridan "Distracting to the game"....
What this proves is that these MANLY sports guys would rather watch a bunch of guys jump on top of each other than a hot blonde chick parade around with nothing but a towell on...

Another thing that gets to me is "Sunday Night Football"...that is a little too much..

Stuff was a lot better in the old days, when sports were only on every now and then. If you guys wanna get a good laugh, check out the movie "Grease" if it replays on cable. That movie is great because they make the football players in the movie look like dumb jock guys...YOU WOULD NEVER SEE THAT NOW!!!!!!
Mike

I just discovered your website. I'm quite intrigued with it, and I think it's great! I'm a 58-year-old family man. I joined a health club in July of last year for the sake of my physical and emotional health, and I've been working with a personal trainer on a bodybuilding program for over a year. (The experience has been very beneficial for me.) But I HATE mandatory P.E. classes in the public and private schools (which are hypocritical and also promote some of the worst bullying there is), and I also HATE the institution of football (with all of its cruelties and corruption)! I'll have a lot more to say about this later in future letters. Your website has provided a voice for a lot of men (such as myself) who have felt that they were alone in their views about King Football and the rest of the sports culture, and I commend you for it. I've laughed out loud reading some of the letters. I've also been saddened by letters from men whose boyhood P.E. experiences were really bad, because I know too well what they are talking about. I've noticed how terribly dense your
blue-letter critics are. They show no compassion, and have no desire to have an actual dialogue (which is typical of those who are intellectually dishonest). If they did, they would learn something. I know that I certainly have. I learned something that I hadn't really known before. I've been quite gratified to learn that critics of the sports culture include men who are rugged physical fitness enthusiasts. I'm encouraged to know that I can reach my bodybuilding goals without becoming a mindless sportsfan (many of whom, as we've already seen, are incrediby out of shape) or a meathead who is insensitive to the rights of other people. You've shown that sports haters truly can't be stereotyped! Keep up the good work. I love your website!

Mr. Bill
Mr. Bill

Bryan, you have it 100% backwards. Watching other people play sports IS idiotic. Sports fans are only deluding themselves if they believe they had ANYTHING AT ALL do do with a team winning ANYTHING. They (you) may imagine themselves to be a part of something bigger than themselves but that's just wishful thinking.

You bully kids as a youth baseball coach?! Well, stop it! Why don't you play with men your own age? Oh --I forgot --sports fan. 'Nuff said.

Being made to participate in little league is not the only way for kids to learn to interact with society. There are MANY other ways to develop personal skills and teamwork.

Sports are what gets MONGOLOIDS through the week, and it annoys the heck out of the rest of us. The next time you turn up the TV and drown out any hope of conversation around you, will you please try to remember that not all of us like sports? There are many, many more of us than you realize.

Thanks
Bryan

Wodin

No offense but this is a joke to say sports are idiotic. A person will say that sports are horrible and spend hours being brainwashed in to thinking that sitcoms and soap operas are a better investment of time.

Sports fans are able to invest themselves in something and establish a connection with other fans and a community. When a team wins a title in a city after a long wait it is like you have be united with long lost family while celebrating. It allows the common person to feel apart of something bigger, to be involved in something that no single person has control over.

Personally, I am a coach of youth baseball and the moment I will remember forever was the first win our team acheived after a long unsuccessful drought. The kids stuck together, and through hard work and determination they learned to take nothing for granted and they came together as a team that started out individuals to become a true TEAM. They learned to coexist with people they otherwise may not have accepted, and they learned that success can be acheived through dedication and learning from past failures. Children who play sports are much more likely to interact better in society, and they learn personal skills and teamwork. Teamwork is needed in the workplace, just like the field.

Sports are what gets many people through the week, and it allows many people to unwind by caring about something they cannot control.

This "group" is very narow minded and immature. You all overlook key points, such as the good things sports has done for various communities and cities. And the tragic times that sports have helped America get through. In all you are extremely outnumbered and this push for eliminating organized sports will ultimatly go unheard and will be unsuccessful because of its lack of backing and knowledge.

Thanks
Bryan
USA

God, sports are sure boring. 1980s comedy is the way! I'd rather sit round watching The Young Ones all evening than watch a bunch of guys run around touching each other. Rugby is just big buff blokes grabbing each other's legs and pulling each other down to the floor - full of homoerotic overtones! Wrestling is even bloody worse - huge guys in very tight pants fisting each other! Fuck everyone who likes sport - you're a bunch of queers. Go fondle your bum buddies in the cold showers whilst I sit down to watch nutters shout, beat each other and cause chaos in The Young Ones - the best show ever!
ProvidenceGangster <dan.prick@googlemail.com>
Limburgerhof, Rheinland-Pfalz Germany

I agree some people take it too far, but sport gives people something to talk about, its something to watch and do with your friends, and some games are just as fun to watch as they are to play. I completely agree that some people take it too far. Like here in England people have huge riots over sports teams, and thats stupid. O and i also like how your site promotes health and fitness :)
chris

resist to the invasion of TV Sports§§
mousty <rudeolivier76@yahoo.fr>
toulouse, france

What a site! Yes, America, there IS an alternative to acting like sheep and bleating for your favourite team! In these desperate times of economic cutbacks, let sports be cut first!
Tony Blair

I am a former US Navy SEAL,teacher, husband, father, and grandfather .I hate what professional sports has done to our colleges, high schools and even our elementary aged children. I hate that there are so many televised sports events. I like ameture sports but do not feel that schools of any type should sponsors sports teams. In this time of recession there is no reason to allow these teams to drain taxpayer dollars from our public educational institutions. people who want to play sports should have to pay to play. Other more worthwhile and creative activities and even academic areas will be cut before sports in a budget crisis. The outrageous salaries paid to pro athletes encourages children and idiotic parents to put more effort into athletics than they put into academics. This is so wrong. The hero worship that athletes receive is rediculous. There plenty real heroes out here who get little or no recognition. The SEALs that I served with in Vietnam and everyone of them since then are far more worthy of praise and adulation. However they don't seek it and in fact cringe at the thought. Doctors who save lives on a daily basis make less money in a liftime than athletes do in the course of a single contract. The only team gear that I wear is SEAL Team gear. I actually was on SEAL Team ONE. There is nothing more rediculous than a grown man or woman walking around in a team jersey for some sports team they never played for and never will. Yet they pay 20 to 75 dollars to wear the number and name of somone else. OMG. WTF
John Chalus <jwchalus@comcast.net>
Atco, NJ USA

Ha! Sports have the same effect on me as they do on Buck. On those occasions when I was made to watch sports (usually football), I would feel like I needed a nap in short order. I always thought it was just because the game was so boring, and I'm sure that is part of the reason (what kind of IQ does it take to be entertained by watching muscleheads run around for a few minutes, then stand around, then run around, then stand around, then run around, over and over, for three straight hours or more?). However, maybe all the droning that goes on has to do with it too. I imagine baseball or golf has got to be even worse (does ANYBODY even watch golf?).

Today I saw somebody moaning and groaning because the local football team lost yesterday, complaining about spending every Sunday watching a team that couldn't play, blah blah blah. I wanted to tell him, "Well, don't then. Who's making you? Maybe you should do something constructive instead?" Not that that would occur to him, I bet. He'll probably be doing the same thing next Sunday.
Barbara (abitagirl) <bjruiz000@yahoo.com>

I can be feeling energetic and in a positive mood, but after a few seconds of being subjected to sports, I feel as though some one slipped me a sleeping pill. Something about the monotone voice of the announcer (even when he s yelling he sounds monotone) and the sheep like roar of the crowd just completely zaps me of my energy.

I especially hate how sports drones feel the need to raise their voice a couple of levels once the conversation turns to sports. This happens a lot in the gym. It s like they INSIST that everyone else around them forgets what he or she was talking about, shut up and become part of THEIR conversation. Any other topic under the sun and they (sports drones) will talk in a normal voice. They make me miserable.

Great site.

Buck

The only thing worse than pro sports is amature sports. I think if people want to play sports thats fine but a whole city shouldnt come to a complete stand still because their high school football team has a home game. I love hearing about school budget cuts and teacher pay cuts just so the school can fund the sports program ( which only consists of the football team ). Here in N.Y. schools are trying to figure out how to cut fuel costs so they came up with the idea of a shorter schools week. Now all the parents are in an uproar stating that this short week will interfere with sports. Lets cut education programs to fund the fuel for the team bus. Also I hate how if your an athlete your above the law. I remember working a high school homecoming game one year. At half time they had a make-shift parade with floats. One of the floats had under age children standing on a trailer with a real BEER KEG and they were drinking from the keg. Now I know ginger ale doesn't come in a keg. The police chief was at the game and nothing was said in fact when it was mentioned the response was ( Yea, those wild and crazy kids sure know how to party ) Message sent: Athletes are above the law.
streetsweeper39

Sports have got to be the most idiotic thing ever invented. I am so glad I wasn't dragged in with those conforming sheep known as sports fans. Keep up the good work sportssuck.org!
DeadTilMidnight

Thank GOD I am not the only one who hates sports. I can't tell you how many times I have been called a LOSER because I don't tune in to the local college Hockey/Football/Basketball events. Fall and winter are my favorite times of the year except for the fact that NFL season starts and I have to hear so much talk about that crap. My wife is a huge Packers fan but thankfully she knows how I feel and doesn't force that mess on me. All I can say to the sports fans out there is grow up and get a life and realize that if you enjoy it, good for you but STOP boring the rest of us with it. The only good thing about the superbowl is discounts on groceries and funny commercials that I can see on the net the next day because I won't be watching TV that day.
Mark

I don't like sports either. They're boring. I don't know how people get so worked up about them, as in YOUR TEAM SUCKS!!! oh -here's something to do for fun: if you have a co-worker who becomes miserable when "his" team loses, go out and buy some souveneer of the team that beat his and post it where he works! it's funny!!!
Prince Charming

I hate sports. I always have and I always will. For fear of retaliation from my family, who are HUGE sportsfans, I choose to remain anonymous. You see, I am married to a man who literally worships sports. In the fall, I am a football widow. Between the U of M games, the Lions Games, and the countdown to Superbowl, I never have any quality time with my husband. Then, when Pistons Basketball is on, he is watching that too. Then Redwings Hockey comes along, then Tiger's baseball. Oh, and then there is soccer. In the summer, there is golf and tennis---can you say BORING! I hate being married to a sports junkie and no, I didn't know he was like this when we married---he wasn't honest and hid his addiction to sports. Also, keep in mind that that he watches and attends sporting event WHILE working around his Spring and Fall fishing and hunting trips as well. SPORTS SUCK! Also, I am SICK of sports interfering with my holiday dinners and events that I have worked hard to plan. Are there any REAL men out there who value more important things in life such as quality time with their families????
Anonymous
MI

Two words come to my mind to describe this site...."THANK YOU!!!"
Tom C. <uselesspc80@aol.com>
Sycamore, IL USA

I don't hate sports, I'm just not interested in them. I believe people should have the right to do whatever they want to, heck there's even people who voluntary take part in Big Brother and related TV-shows (it's most likely they are sportfans).
What really bothers me is the way media (and society) is treating sports. They are brainwashing the mentally less given people, by letting them believe "sports is good". This goes against the most fundaMENTAL parts of human rights.
the saddest thing is that, since there is big money involved, the gouvernment is encouraging all this. and willing to spend billions on: police protection - doping schandals - the building of stadiums which are incompatible with anything else then sports - bribe schandal lawsuits - broadcasting time on public radio and television. this last bit bothers me even more. all scheduled programs will have to step aside for "Emperor Sport". some shows are five hours delayed because they want to broadcast the game.....

-Everyone who asks me about sports, I usually give an embarrasing question in return.
EG: Do you like football?
-I'm sorry I have no idea what you are talking about. what is football?
Vik Van Os <vik.com@gmail.com>
Angera, VA Italy

you guys are the 3,971,753rd most visited site on the web.
U need to get more hits. Spread the message! Sports Suck!
JelloPlease <jroxx13@yahoo.com>
Littleton, CO USA

Sports, generally speaking, are Such a bore..! Essentially without any 'redeeming value'. The 'fans' are being deprived of a Lot of money, while the players and team owners are becoming ridiculously, excessively Rich..! All that money of course could be used for more reasonable things than watching silly 'games'..! People act as though these teams and players and games are Very important, as though they 'mean something'..! I don't think so..!
It's nice I suppose to play a game well, but are the fans being controlled and hustled and used by the promoters and the media mainly in order to make Lots of money through their silly games..!
Athletes and participants in sports are made to seem special and some kind of 'hero', but what kind of 'hero' is That..!?
To me sports are So meaningless, even annoying..! Who Cares how well the local team is doing, scores, standings, players, events, etc etc..
So what would occupy people's minds if it wasn't sports, sports, and more sports..? It's hard to say, but they'd have more money in their pockets (for gas, etc), and maybe they could donate a little to a worthy cause, one would like to think..
Paul I Edic (ee-dick) <Edictionary@webtv.net>
Akron, OH US

Havent been here in an eternity hehe
JelloPlease <jroxx13@yahoo.com>
Denver, CO USA

haha computer buisness exactly, nerd.
samdaman

Good to see some others with the same opinions as myself. And I think its so funny that losers who live and breath sports can only think of two things to insult us with. That we're all nerds or fags. Well number one, if disliking sports makes me a nerd, then I am a nerd, and a geek, and proud of it. I have a real life live in GF, my own computer business, and I have only myself to thank, not some love of "the team". Number two of course is, how so many people say sports haters are gay, yet have you watched sports I say to them. Sports are a bunch of same gendered people going against each other, the majority of the time touching and grabbing each other. Im sorry, but does that seem more then slightly homo-erotic to anyone else.... Eww...
B.C
Australia

With all the personal insults flying back and forth I can see that both sides of the sports spectrum have thier less than intelligent. I have never enjoyed watching or playing sports, I do lift weights and run but that is for my own personal health. The Superbowl was last night, the Patriots lost which means I will have to listen to everybody's disdain for the Giants all week at work and even worse going out for a beer after work will be fairly nauseating. People seem to think that they lost when thier team loses. It makes no difference in your life. Nothing changes, you don't lose money (unless you bet of course) it won't have any ill-effects on your life, so why are you upset about a game (it is just a game you know) played by seriously over payed jocks? Why do you care? How did they become heroes and celebrities by playing a game? I will never understand that. Why not pay, for example firemen, who are truly heroes the way a "pro" football player is paid? I guess I will never get it and that's fine with me. Oh, and by the way, I don't play video games, I don't live with my mom and I have no problem getting girls, so you'll have to come up with some new insults. Or you could just call me a fag, that seems to be about the mental level going on here.
metalheadimdead
MA USA

Ugh, video games vs sports, who cares, just do what u want to do and stop argueing
Jello Please

see people! dont be like spammy here randomly posting meaningless insults, be logical, realize sports are useless, just like his random insults! join up and have intelligent discussions! :D
Canadian_Hockey_Hater <perfect_confusion@hotmail.com>
Canada

I love how he just keeps proving us right...
Canadian_Hockey_Hater <perfect_confusion@hotmail.com>
Canada

yeah um only girls can call me sammy not some fat cunt whore
Sam

You've pretty much proved his point there, didn't you, Sammy?
Barbara <bjruiz000@yahoo.com>

Yeah Daniele i think you are a loser with no life so just shut the fuck up. i am better than u
Samdaman

Notice how those who dislike sports have some thought-out, intelligent or moral arguments, while those who like sports usually just shout out generic insults.
Daniel
Kingston, Ontario Canada

we won as usual. i had a fucking blast with my football buddies and my gf after the game it was so awsome. u guys must be jelous though living your sad lives inside your moms basement playing videogames.
Samdaman

Ive got a big football game tomarrow, wish me luck fags
Samdaman

First of all I have a thing against sports because of all of the mascots,,,,, I am Native American and I find it offensive though they say they are changing that,,,, yeah we have heard promises before!!!! Secondly me and my girlfriend live with her parents and every time I turn around her mom is staring at some kind of sport like she is in heat or something,,,,maybe she just doesn t know there are other channels,,,,,,,,not. I find it silly that someone can spend that much time on brain rot,,,,that s it follow blindly robot. I HATE SPORTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wolfs Robe <akafluteman@akaflutemanent.com>
Piedmont, MO usa

I just love your site, I hate sport and I hate competition and I'd like God to see all this stupidity going on here on our planet, and that we'll not be obliged to support sports in our afterlife in heaven. Because it seems that God backs sport and the entire sports circus after all (everything they earn, everything they re entitled to in our stupid world society, etc).
(Aged 39, an entirely assumed Kurt Cobain fan and fulltime sports hater).

Augusto Correia <augustofenix@netcabo.pt>
Porto, Portugal

You folks are SO right.
Christmas
IA USA

This website is amazing. Thank God I'm not the only sports-hater on the planet, cause it sure does feel that way sometimes.

"So, did you catch the game last night?" If I hear that one more time I'm gonna scream!

Thanks so much for the inspiration and the encouragement from your site. You guys are awesome!

Sports suck. :) Have an nice day.
Lauren
USA

yah i can tell that turning the O's to zeros is helping im starting to see less of that crap already...
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

The ads are an experiment to make this site pay for itself. Unfortunately we can't choose the ads. Google places them automatically based on some algorithm that is supposed to match the ads to the content of the page. It's not doing a very good job with our pages because it seems to think this is a sports page. I am trying to downplay the sports content of the pages by changing the "o" in sports to "0" (zeros) in the hope that it will fool the crawler. And adding commented out content that emphasizes things other than sports. I apologize for the off-topic ads and am working to fix them. Thanks for your patience. :)
Don

Hey just wondering wtf was with those new adverts? i dont like seeing that guys chest everytime i scroll down the page... although im sure samdagaywad does... dont want to think about what he does to that picture....
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>
Denver, CO

.... lol ... the sciency term for putang, more commonly know as pussy, im sure u've never seen one outside of a science book if u use a term like that. Dumbass.
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

btw i bet u dont know what a clitoris is! haha nerd!
Samdaman

dude who da fuck r u? I made that forum like months ago, and never used it please dont stalk me faggot.
Samdaman

check out SamdaSpaz's forum http://nfl32.proboards82.com/index.cgi
it has tons of good information! NOT!!! it's a veritable wasteland of intellect.
CryBaby

Wow, yet another reason that proves samdaman is a dumbass. =P
PS: Canada Rules!

Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

Thanks for the offer, Jello, but I don't have a MySpace account. But if I make one I'll take you up on that. :)
Ray

Yeah, nice sarcasim, but i have tons of friends, i dont know where you live but whereever you do, apparently you need a myspace to pretend to have friends... Im not going to waste my time telling you Im not a guy, since you'll probably just make more stereotypically assumtions about me hating sports so i must be a preppy girl whos afraid to break a nail or a fat loser with no friends, which is almost as much bullshit as you are... have fun sitting on your ass watching some movie and playing a game i've never heard of, enjoy your life dumbass
Canadian_Hockey_Hater <perfect_confusion@hotmail.com>
Canada

ok sure canada not having a myspace and hating sports means that you must have loads of friends. Chicks must dig a guy who plays world of warcraft or dungions and dragons all day long on his fat ass on his mom's house. Seriously I'm watching Mind of Mencia right now and ur making me laugh even harder than the show.
Samdaman

haha your an idiot, if i was mentally retarded such as you im sure i would make a myspace, but just because i dont have one dosn't mean i dont have plenty of friends, im hardly on the computer enough to make one anyways, because i have what normal people call a "life" unlike you who just bother people on a sports suck website because deep down in the pea brain of yours you secretly hate sports. i'd rather see my friends in real life then on a website.
Canadian_Hockey_Hater <perfect_confusion@hotmail.com>
Canada

hey ya little canadian faggot i bet u dont even have a myspace or any friends 4 dat matter haha!
Samdaman

WOOT to all the people who hate sports! you are the smart people of society!!! to those who are jerks enough to come on and spam our guestbook with nonesense and liking sports... haha...
Canadian_Hockey_Hater <perfect_confusion@hotmail.com>
Canada

nope they dont have myspace, they told me and they have no friends! haha!
Samdaman

Hey Ray and Skul, if you have myspace like samdagaywad says then ill be happy to add u: www.myspace.com/fishfood7
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

Dude!! I just fuckin checked it and it's still fuckin set at: allow eveyone under 18 to view my profile, and why the fuck would i be scared of u?! lolz, u suck.. and its not cilt.
Jello Please

yes you did ur afraid of me!!! hahaah!!
Samdaman

Ru sure u were logged in? lol
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

Huh? No I didnt...
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

well jello faggot has given up. He made his myspace pro. private. what a loser he only had 10 friends on there lol. Haha!!! I won and hes jelous of my profile!!
Samdaman

just so rfay and skul faggots know im not at that plce anymore so if u wanna say somethin 2 me u gotta unban me otherwise i wont know what u fags said. btw ray dont lie r u afraid 2 call me casue u know that ill bash u into the ground? faGGOT!
Samdaman

uh yeah because im not always somewhere, im actually at my house sometimes. Also im not playing videogames all day long and i do other things while im on the computer like watch tv
Samdaman

Lol i was wondering what u'd do with that friend request lmao. Btw: For a jock u sure seem to be on your computer alot, lol
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

so goth boy only has 11 friends on his myspace, pretty funny. Well at least he HAS ONE unlike Ray and Skul who have not even one friend! This guys pretty pathetic though still: he tried to be my friedn cause he ahs none lol hilarious!!!
Samdaman

just wiondering more thing if u watch the simpsons do u get all pissed off whenever Homer or Bart play sports?
Samdaman

All u guys are faggots
Samdaman

Dude i saw ur myspace ur a fuckin nerd. U only have 11 friends? And u dont even post any real pics? WTF fag afraid to show ur real ugly goth face? And u think that playin videogames is tough? I seriously diont kow how this is even an arguement? Well at least u listen to ok music and are a Simpsons fan but still dude get some fuckin friends and a real life
Samdaman

PS: www.myspace.com/fishfood7
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

Jocks/cheerleaders know nothing about life. If u'd rather jump all over other guys in a game of football go right ahead. I, however, prefer blasting heavy metal, makin out with a goth chick, and then folow up by playin some quality video games! And with no further ado.. why dont you run along and play a nice game of hide and go fuck yourself!im sure it meets your althetic demands. Peace out
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

and 4 Loner bitch i already know that you like 2 fuck guys u dont need 2 say so. Aslo i know u have no friends cause ur name is loner lol
Samdaman

also for the last fuckin time nerds are not rebels u guys r just teachers pets and probably would tell the cops if a jock was throeing a party with beer and pot casue u werent invited. Please
Samdaman

hey nerds dont be jelous cause you asked a cheerleader out and she turned you down cause shes not into videogames and u know that cheereladers are better than goth whores. Also wtf with that grammer kid how bout u goi get a fuckin life its not school nerd im not tryin 2 get a fuckin A cockman its on a computer do u ever im with friends? Do you even fuckin know what lol or omg mean? Jeseus christ just get some fuckin friedns i bet none of u bitchez dont even have a myspace just get some fuckin friends and a fuickin life.
Samdaman

Nobody that I know likes cheerleaders. They're as close to a caste system as you can get in America. They think they're better than everyone else. Just like the jocks who, in turn, think THEY'RE better than everyone else. After high school (if they're smart) they'll realize that they were nothing more than trained seals doing what the administrators wanted. for nothing. except a jacket! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha arf! arf! arf! stupid idiot cheerleaders!
Drew
none, none none

This is addressed to Sandman.

You sir are an idiot.

Learn some proper grammar, then come to a site bashing jocks like yourself and maybe you can have an somewhat intelligent ho-out.

Until then, I fucked your father, then had a snack.
TheLoner

What it was great fuckin ur goth cunt? Please cheerleaders are much hotter in every way and u know it, u just cant get one so u settle 4 goth whores
Samdaman

PS: last night waz great! Booya!
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>
USA, USA!

Happy Fourth!
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>
USA, USA!

If you call a pale face with 2 much black makeup sexy then go right fuckin ahead but if you want a woman with class I would suggest a cheerleader not some trampy whore goth bitch like ur whore gf. Dude i could kick ur ass and i bet ur gf could kick ur ass 2 cause ur a pussy. Just please shut da fuck up b4 I really embarrass you.
Samdaman

Damn dude get ur head outta ur moma's putang and start paying attention to what REAL sexy girls are like.. The only hot kind of blonde is a goth chick that dyed her hair blond. I bet ur mama's a cheerleader.. that would explain why you think they're so hot. Now if u excuse me im going to my gf's house (sexiest goth chick eva) to make out with her.. Disturbed in the background maybe... Oh and maybe after we'll play some quality video games! Anyway, have a nice life!
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>
Denver, CO

Nerds who are in highschool do what they're mommy wants them 2 do: not play rough and tough games and stay inside playing gay videogames where its safe from mean jocks. Dude seriously just go fuck ur mom cause ur not a rebel in any way ur just a nerd who likes to play it safe. My parents have had no impact on what I do whatsoever and I do whatever the fuck I want 2 do. I bet ur parents dont let u go 2 any parties and i bet ur mom doesnt even let u have a gf what a fuckin nerd! And I really dont understand this whole thing with nerds wanting goth chicks, goths are the scum of the earth, there are very few goth chicks who are attractive, and the ones that u see in highschool are disgusting. Cheerleaders are sexy as hell, fun and hot and preppy I dont know how ur fag asses would perfer a chick with pale skin, wears too much black makeup, and ugly face over a tanned skin brown hair and brown eyes or light tanned skin blonde hair and blue eyes. Don't know, u guys are just really really fuckin weird and I seroiously think that you need professional help if you will ever get out of your dark gothic cave to do so and step out into the light of reality.
Samdaman

Jocks who play sports in high school are boring. They're the kind of guys who do what their mom and dad tells them to. They play football because their dad wants them to. Cheerleaders are the same way. They're good girls who do exactly what their parents want. BORING! Give me a goth or hippee chick anytime!! So keep crying, SAMDABITCH --OR JOIN US and grow up!!
Cool & Dat <CoolBreeze@dynamo.net>
Albany, GA USA

oh yeah one more thing if ur goth i bet u cut urself casue you hate life and jocks pick on you everyday @ school. Just go crawl in a hole bitch, everybody does hate u!!! HAHA i pick on goths and nerds all da time and ur both, so im takin down 2 @ once!!!
Samdaman

Besides even most goth chicks dont play games, only the real fat and ugly ones do, and theyre probably the best that u can get. OH BEAT DAT BITCH!!!
Samdaman

k so letme get dis now ur half goth and half nerd? Dude goth chicks r creepy(exept 4 Christine Dolce but i bet u dont know who the fuck she is since nerds dont have myspace) Why dont u like hot cheerleaders fag? U'd rather watch some videogame girl strip 4 u. How about you get off ur videogame playin fag azz and man up and not cry because i could kick da shit out of u on the football field. Peace Out motherfucker
Samdaman

Oh and i 4got to add: the only porn i look at is suicide girls (dot com)! OHHH YAH!! I dont even WANT to know what you look at, being a gay sports fan such as yourself. Peace Out!
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

Damn dude i dont care for cheerleader whores. Goth chicks are so much sexier, play games, and hate sports! Thats my kinda chick, baby. And if that chick happens to be computer animated.. ill jack off to my TV!! Beat That OH!
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>

wow this kid is an example of one of you nerd faggots. He would rather like to see some computer generated elf chick then an actual cheerleader wearing a sexy outfit. Ya gotta be shittin me! I always wondered who jerked off to animae porn and now I know that its the fuckin nerds. And yeah I'd rather watch a game of football where people gettin pummeled into the ground and makin kick ass plays then have two fairies and dwarves with swords cut eachother up in some fag enchanted forest. Thank you very much fags!
Samdaman

Geez sports are sure pointless. Video games are the way! Hell, the closest thing to a sport i play is Soul Calibur 3! Football is just big buff guys wearing tights and manhandling eachother. Boxing.. guys in skinpy underwear fighting over a belt and a purse!! Sports are so gay. Video games are so straight. I mean watching a hot chick in a chainmail bra running around stabbing ppl. What would you guys rather do? Personally for me i take the video games. Peace Out!
Jello Please <jroxx13@yahoo.com>
Denver , CO USA

me again, I just wanted to say farewell and take care. I'm not angry at you my friends, ill be nice to u guys, im sure that societl gives u enough poain alone so ill help u guys outn and be your friend. Unless u want to email me then I suppose its goodbye to u guys, u guys r awesome, Ray, Skul, Abitagirl, Fritz, and of coures Yo_joe!!! Its ok I knowthat u guys dont know what a clit is or have no friends on myspace but I will be your friends so farewell my friends and take care!!!

Goodbye, Sam
Samdaman

gey fags u know that I can easily get back on here. It wont be by me begging though but u guys actuilaay like me on here, Ray even addimtted so. U guys will be so fucking board on here that u will beg for me 2 cum back. Her's my email if u "my friends" ever want 2 say hi 2 me again!!!

monsterofdamidway@hotmail.com
Samdaman <monsterofdamidway@hotmail.com>

Sorry i forgot to add, I saw in the news that, some sportsfans become rowdy! Like in wrestling, they copy the moves and get hurt! In my Taekwondo class, I'm a red belt and when I see the parents waiting for their kids outside, I see that my classmates little brothers and sisters are copying the moves we do! FYI, these are done by pros like me. Don't try them without being trained. [By the way, sorry in my last comment. I'm in Taekwondo not in Karate, my annoying little sister, Mimi must have typed that when I was in the shower. SPORTS SUCK!!!!! Oh yeah for all of you Filipinos in this site, Gloria resign!
Joshua Flores <manilafalcongreen@yahoo.com>
Quezon City, Philippines

Sports suck alot! I have to admit I only like martial arts cause I do Karate. But those team sports suck! They make you dirty and cause diseases and fractures. I notice in my class, the kids who play sports more than study, fail! Getting F's, repeating the grade level, and most of them become bullies [Especially the ones who are in the American Football Club.] Me, I'm in the music club. I love classical music and I am very good in piano.
Joshua Flores <manilafalcongreen@yahoo.com>
Quezon City, Philippines

I HATE SPORTS!!!! SPORTS SUCK!!!! Sports are made for teamwork and all but the result of this so called "teamwork" is turning out to be a popularity contest!!!! Am I right or am I right?? Geez....I really don't get how people can talk all day about sports!! I don't understand how people can even sit back and watch sports 24/7!! Well, it might be true that sports is fun for some people, but watching other people play is just sick....I sometimes watch games....but it's because I personally know someone playing in that team....but channels like ESPN etc., THEY MAKE ME SICK!!!! BARF BARF BARF BARF PUKE....
Gilbert Que <gilbert_que@yahoo.com>
Manila, NCR Philippines

I can't believe all the big fuckin fuss about these sports fans. I'm from Pittsburgh and everybody always talks about the idiot steelers winning the superbowl couple years back. There losers need to stop worshipping men wearing tight pants in a stadium (an idiot-base i call it) and help real people with real problems.
Yo_Joe

For those of you who are complaining about how we hate sports, we have the right to hate or like anything seeing that you hate us hating sports. Oh and by the way, we're not lazy, fat, or obese; there ARE other ways to get exercise(such as jogging and working out in the weight room). Just because one person doesn't play sports, doesn't mean they REPRESENT the entire population of hating sports.

I hate sports for very good reasons, if you think it's not THAT bad being on a team full of idiots, that's because people respect you for being good at them.
-People are complete asses, they get all power-hungry and think they're better than everyone.
-They get all the attention.
-People disrespect me and refuse to be on a team with me, just because I'm not good. Oh heck I'm not even anti-social and I try to play as much as I can!
And pretty much of what the articles on this site says.
Anonymous <blazingrunaway@yahoo.ca>

I hate it when the high school sports get more attention than any thing else. Come on it's like your nobody if you do not play a sport in this high school. I was about to go crazy when they showed school football movies during lunch time. Yeah, they go all out for football sometimes basketball and baseball too.

Mike
LaPorte, IN USA

Oh my freakin god yall, sports were disigned for temwork, thinking, after school activities, and mopst of all, to keep fit. im sure that all you sports hater are all over weight and suck at them when you tried, but that doesnt mean you need to be all pissy about them. sports keep you in shape and they are good for your soul, like...... you can help people and use team work no fucking DUH!!! you all are idiot and morons. you dont have to hate sports, you can judt not like em. but making a whole website dedicated to them,? we all know what you dumbasses do in your free time. lazy asses.
Sports Lover
Boerne, Tx America

Look at the state of this sports bore. Hey, how ignorant are YOU!? The only reason (the ONLY reason?) we hate sports is because we can't play? What the hell kind of bullshit is that? You're wrong. Yup, you're wrong. You are.

You're a complete moron who doesn't listen to logic or the truth. Go watch gays in skimpy outfits chase a ball around.

Heh. Sports bore... you suck balls, man... I'm better than you... no, shhh, shhh don't argue, just face the facts....

:P

Shhhh!
Skul <skulkrusha2000@hotmail.com>
Glasgow, Scotland

How ignorant are you people. The only reason you hate sports is because you cant play. If you could you wouldnt be so pissed about this. Its not our fault you got picked last or not at all. If you worked at it then that wouldnt happen. I feel sorry for all of you that you have no life or think playing world of warcraft is a fun time. Screw all of you!!!
Screw you all!!! <njoy41501@yahoo.com>
Cuba, NY USA

Senator Bennett of Florida shares your concerns about taxpayers being bilked to support sports franchises. He is planning to introduce a bill proposing that the voters decide whether a new statdium be funded by tax dollars or tax rebates. Please see attached press release. http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/View_Page.pl?Tab=legislators&Submenu;=1&File;=030207.html&Directory;=legislators/senate/021/press/
Aide
Tallahasse, FL USA

If you'd like to join the FOX viewer panel so that you can answer surveys on what you'd like to see on TV, just fill in the form at this link. http://www.strategicsurveysolutions.com/fox/screener/EmailAFriend.cfm cheers!
H.R.

That must be hell, working with a bunch of half-wits. It must take an amazing imagination to be able to write interesting copy about sports. I mean, just how much can you say about, "he ran and he caught the ball! yayyyyyy!!"
Ray

I am a sports copy editor at a newspaper, and I hate sports. Seriously. It bores the crap out of me, and I can't stand the people involved (coaches, fans, parents, players, et al).
Patrick

American football is a game in which men dressed as astronauts jump on each other during the intervals between tv commercials: Welcome to Wrigleys Spearmint Gum Stadium where it's a great day for the game - but first a word from our sponsor!
Pee Wee <Weep@hellokitty.com>
Hirosaki, Japan

I agree sports do suck except (wrestling)i mean omg most athletes are retarded
Tim
USA

Barbara, you should try living in Orlando about now! The Gators, which I think is a college team, just won a superbowl or something --some kind of national title --and the whole damn state is walking around proud as peaches --as if THEY were the ones who pulled off this miraculous "accomplishment"! And walkin' around like this making alligator jaw motions with their arms! It's INSANO!!
Doug
Orlando, FL USA

Sports, UGH! I live about an hour north of New Orleans, which has a pro-football team that seems destined to make it to the Superbowl, and the hype is TERRIBLE, and impossible to escape. Everybody is so damned emotional about a football team, like it's so vastly important. I am so tired of hearing about it! How about getting excited over something worthwhile? (Calgon, take me away!)
Barbara <bjruiz000@yahoo.com>

You mean I'm not alone? Thank you for having this site. I always felt like I was the only person who hated sports.
Mark K
AL

We better becareful you Nerds might want your dorms back by winning the homecoming carnival. NERDS! NERDS! NERDS! NERDS!
Jim Rome <jw_xyz@yahoo.com>
Soutern, CA

This site is great.I hate sports so much that I'd rather rip my intestines out , than hear about them.Its a waste of time to play or watch sports, when we all could be wondering about our current position:Global Warming.OMG i hat sports more than Death!
Courtney O'Brien <shakira10337@msn.com>
Saint John, NB Canada

This site is great! I am so sick of sports (professional mostly) being shoved down my throat. Professional sports are stupid! They're a HUGE time-waster- each game is up to 3 hours! What a waste of time!
anthony despain <despaina@yahoo.com>
Westminster, co usa

I'm glad I found your site. I'm not a sports fan (except wakeboarding/skiing), and I despise football. I get tired of half the conversations with clients, staff, vendors and my partner being domineered by football. I never watch it, don't know the rules of the game, don't know any of the players and don't want too. I Despise it!!! Thank you for starting a site where sport haters (specifically football for me), can vent.
David L.
TN

I have played basketball my whole life but the truth is sports really suck. Professional athletes are just a bunch of overpaid crybabies with nothing better to do. Thanks for your site!!
Frank Billings <frank@happytailsportland.com>
Portland, ME USA

I wish I had discovered this site sooner. I have hated sports since I was a child (I'm 32 now) and have often caught flack for it. I'm glad to see that there are others out there who feel the same way I do.
Matt <mssunrich@valdosta.edu>
Tallapoosa, GA USA

I hate sports too.
Rob
Greenville, SC

I love this site, I am so sick of these stupid sports fans who are complete morons! I am so glad I'm not the only one! There is this kid in front of my in my math class (I'm in high school) who always wears the calgary flames shirt and I feel like killing him! Gr... I hate all sports teams. I love this site though!
Canadian_Hockey_Hater
Calgary, Canada

I am so glad i found this page...all of my friends love sports..and throughout my entire life i have always hated sports, even when i use to play them as a child, i just found it so pointless...Sports are the pointless and its all about money nowdays anyways. Go read a book or write some poetry or build a house do a painting, something meaningful rather than drinking beer all fucking day and watch abunch of dudes jump on each other like a bunch of fucking fruitcakes...and that is all... FUCK SPORTS!! WOOT!
TheLoner <theloneras@gmail.com>
Cincinnati, OH USA

Well said, Curtis. I think that sports fans consist almost entirely of those non-thinking citizens.
Ray
Stone Mountain, GA

Living in the cultural backwater known as Arkansas, I was relieved to discover that there are others who feel as I do. Seems to me that sports in general are akin to religion in that one need not think too much to follow it. School test scores are at an all time low in my state while educational institutions are spending millions on athelitic programs. Our priorities are misplaced at best. Or are they? Someone infamous once said: "How fortunate for governments that people do not think."
Curtis Smith

I agree with you all that there is too much sports on TV not to mention that as a cable subscriber I am forced to subsidize this crap! Here in Atlanta, on my cable, we have Fox Sports, South Turner South - Mostly sports ESPN U - (University sports) Comcast Sports South OLN The Tennis Channel Fox Sports World The NFL Network The Falcons Channel The Braves Channel --not to mention the Pay Per View channels for every sport. And I know there are a few more I've forgotten. Cable programmers, if you're listening, PLEASE get this crap off my cable and make the sports fans PAY to watch it!
Dave
Atlanta,

Ever wonder why there's an education crisis in this country? People love to say it's because of class size or that the teachers aren't making enough money or that illegal aliens who can't speak english are slowing things down. But the real reason is that mandatory and extracurricular sports absorb funds and attention that would be better spent in the classroom! Yep, sports are making our nation dumber. Most other countries do not share our unnatural obsession with competitive sports and use their tax funds to better educate their citizens and prepare for the future. This is why all the tech jobs are going to Asia. Because too much time is wasted on sports in school! Wake up, America!!
McDuff
Seattle,

Please visit the anti-soccer site at http://www.soccersucks.net/. It is hilarious.
Rob
Hoboken, NY USA

Greetings! I just found about this site and I have to say: You have my total support! I, too, have grown to hate sports during my youth when at school we were forced to play team sports. Physical "education" was nothing more than means for the bullies and other sadists to mock and beat those who were less enthusiastic about sports. The official purpose of P.E was to encourage everyone to actively pursue some form of physical activity. Total and complete BS. Even the teachers did their best in crushing the motivation and self-appreciation of those who did much better in more intellectual subjects. I remember that most embarassing aspect was when we had to form teams. Two would be selected (by the teachers) as captains, who then picked up players for their team, and it always ended in the teams fighting over who HAS to take the remaining, less qualified players into their team. Anyway, keep up the good work, and spread the word! I shall continue with my anti-sport agenda here in Finland, where ice hockey has been elevated to godhood, in hopes of a better tomorrow for all of us, and especially the children, who are in danger of being thrust to suicide by jocks.
Lord Boredom <lord.boredom@gmail.com>
Oulu, Finland

Hallo, A poll of 2,000 people conducted recently by Germany's BAT polling institute found that 34 percent of women and 21 percent of men are not interested in the world's biggest sporting event. It has motivated Stephan Barbarino, a theatre director from Munich, to launch an initiative called "Football-Free Zone" with publisher Karl-Heinz Schwaiger. Their website (www.fussballfreiezone.de) comes to the rescue of accidental World Cup tourists who just happen to be in the country during the June 9 to July 9 event.
Don
Stuttgart, BW GE

Right behind this site! Agree with just about all the sentiments expressed. Will be back!
Chris
UK

It is good to know that some kindred souls exist. Over the years my hatred of sports has softened to a profound dis-interest and indifference. As Ceasar said "Bread and Circuses".
Andy

almost every sport sucks... only one decent sport has every hit this world and that is mountain biking and only because its fast and an adrenaline rush. It doesnt take over our tv's like all these worthless sports...
Nick
Cornwall, UK UK

check out this link! http://www.eastsidemall.com/bulliesforhire/bullies.html
Butch
New Jersey, NJ USA

Nah, you're not alone. There's lots of us who don't like sports. It's just that somehow, not liking sports got to be a kind of thing that guys are afraid to admit --don't ask me why. Somewhere along the line, people started considering sports as manly and essential --to the point that they fiercely insisted that everyone like sports --as if their self-worth depended on it. But speaking just for me, I've had enough. I'm a regular guy and I don't give a damn for watching other people play ball. I'd rather drink a glass of ajax than watch one minute of the World Cup!
Charles

I hate all sport, but football makes me sick Here we go again, the poxy 2006 world cup is here. Already everyone has started going on about it. It won t be long before we here the phrase s spirit of 66 England expects every man etc Please shut up. Once again we re subjected to the Nietzschean herd mentality in all it s stupidity, pubs full of baying halfwit s and endless execrable media coverage. I love it when England go out early, I hope they lose shamefully every time. If they win, I still wouldn t care anyway. Muppets the lot of them. Good result for us last night mate! some chump will say to me, was it really I ve hated sport since I was 5 and I ll do what I ve always done, ignore it. Good website, nice to know I m not alone.
Fred Gruder
London,

hmmm... a symbol that captures the wide and varied essence of common sense. What could it be...
Raleigh

A universal symbol for sports-haters... that's a good idea. But what? What could symbolize our total disinterest in sports?
Ray

Firstly, how sweet it was to see the sports stadium tear down. It would be great for someone to come up with a really attractive anti-sport symbol that is universally recognizable like the smiley face. Something that an anti-sport person can wear as a badge of honour, and offcourse fashionable. Byan
b de silva
Perth, WA Australia

You wanna know what MY pet peeve is? NASCAR. Did I say that right? I mean, first of all, it's not even a sport. Not that being a sport would help its status any. I don't like watching any kind of sports anyway. But there are millions of people who PAY money to sit in the stands and watch cars drive around in a CIRCLE!! What the hell is THAT about? What kind of dumb bastard would pay money to watch cars drive around in circles when they could come stand on the corner by the highway and watch cars go by for free! Stupid! And what about all these cars with the number EIGHT pasted in their window? What does that mean? I figure it means they're really into NAPCAR but I must have that wrong because generally these son of a bitches is driving slower than everybody else and holding up traffic! Anyway, if u luv NAPCAR u is stoopid! Thansk and you have a great website here. Please keep it up.
Gene

Thanks, Lauren. We feel the same way. It feels great to stay in shape and there's nothing wrong with boxing. It's like you say --the twisted devotion to sports --the use of sports to define a person's status --that we hate.
Ray

Please visit http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stopsean and help stop Sean from watching sports!
Truman

Actually, I don't hate sports themselves (I enjoy boxing) rather the emphasis that my country places on them...A country where sports achievements are valued over literary and artistic accomplishments. So, I like your site. Keep it up.
Lauren
Enfield, CT 06082

NEW RULE: If you need to shave and you still collect baseball cards, you're a dope. If you're a kid, the cards are keepsakes of your childhood idols. If you're a grown man, they're pictures of other men.
Josh
Apache Junction, Az USA

NEW RULE: Stop giving me that pop-up ad for classmates.com! There's a reason you don't talk to people for 25 years. Because you don't particularly like them! Besides, I already know what the captain of the football team is doing these days: mowing my lawn.
Josh
Apache Junction, Az USA

I'm a red blooded american male, and I HATE sports, sports of all kinds. It's terrible how these dullards in the pro sports are held up as HEROES!!, hero is thrown around all to easily when it is applied to a low IQ hulk who has trouble putting two words together and is too busy shoving coke up his nose to sign autographs for his adoring little fans! This site is great! Thanks
Rick
Dallas, TX USA

Let it be known, many Australians loathe competitive sports!
Pip Wilson
Australia

Flash! Attendance at college sports events DOWN 40%!! Flash! People getting smarter! http://thepost.baker.ohiou.edu/show_news.php?article=S1&date;=030306
Ray

Time Warner says no to airing Dodgers Games! No to airing Angels games! Can Time Warner be coming to their senses?! You read it here first! http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m5072/is_29_23/ai_76738373
Ray

Let's hear it once again for the great character building obtained from playing sports!!!!!! ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) -- Lamar Owens, quarterback of Navy's 2005 football squad, has been charged with raping a female midshipmen last month in her dormitory room, the academy announced Wednesday. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/ncaa/02/22/bc.fbc.academy.rapechar.ap/index.html?cnn=yes
war

OK I ADMIT IT I LIK BASBALL BECAUS OF THE TITE PANTS THEYWARE & bASEBALL RULS!!!!!
GOYANKEE1139@AOL.com <GOYANKEE1139@AOL.COM>

I gave up on sports around age 12 and grew up. Life is too short to be subjected to a bunch of has-beens, never-was, never-will-be's go insane when a ballgame, race, or whatever comes on TV and insist on me or anyone else get involved. The only thing worse I can come up with is being made to work a televised sporting event by the local sports-wacko faction. We work in a facility that isn't really set for that and most of the normal people aren't either. The wackos work the game for the good freelance money and us salary slaves get scale. They show off to look good and the normal people who didn't want to get involved are made to look bad because they don't have years of experience. Just another reason. Ty
Ty <tysons2@earthlink.net>
Columbia, SC USA

Sports do suck they are pointless. OOOO a ball lets go chase it then bring it to the other side of a field YAYYY. Sports are for fags with no life. Learn to use a computer.
Batman <Dr.Mario123@gmail.com>
N/a, N/a N/a

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way !!
Ron Tickle <steviefan20@hotmail.com>
Winston Salem, NC United States

Yeah, that's when I go to the barbershop --on gameday. 'Cause it's never crowded. All the sports fans have their asses glued to the couch.
Ray

How about making that radio broadcast a podcast that I can download to my iPod? It would be great to listen to when I jog during the super bowl. I only look forward to the super bowl because there will be no lines at my favorite eating establishments or the gym.
war

As of right now, I am skipping my wrestling practice for the fifth time this month. The reason I began playing sports in the first place was to better my resume' for college. What I discovered was that all the steriotypical hazing, bullying, pointless excitement, and useless skills of high school sports are completely true. I am sick of watching how big the underclassmen get on steroids (yes, un derclassmen) and i dont believe in starving myself so that i can wake up at five AM to drive four hours to wrestle five times while risking serious injury all for the name of my school. The way pro sports fans stand by their logo and scream and torch cars for a picture reminds me of something called facism. Everytime the simpsons are cancelled for nascar or the red sox i want to torch fox studios. Keep up the good work
JK <Jordantheker@yahoo.com>
nashua, NH United States

I hate sports....really alot
eleni <eleni_rae@hotmail.com>

A radio commentary on how much sports BLOW?! I can't think of a more pertinent and timely topic! :) Good idea! We is all behind you, brother.
Don

The Seattle Seahawks won something this weekend - the Legislature is also meeting in this state with more problems than we can imagine - but all we hear about is that stupid football team! It is all I can do to keep from tossing a brick thru the TV at those smiling perky talking heads! - yuk. I googled your site because I do a radio commentary and the next one will be on "sports suck!" Good info - Thanks
Liam Johnston <bjohnston@wamaol.net>
Tacoma, WA USA

Ray-- I certainly will! :-) One suggestion: put a link to it on the main page. Some people might not scroll all the way thru the "stuff" page, and thus may never see it. Thanks for this site btw!
RaleighRob <rob1977nc@yahoo.com>
Raleigh, NC USA

well. im sorry. i really couldnt be bothered reading it,
alistair
nz

Hi Raleigh Rob! It was a good idea. I don't know why I didn't think of it myself! And it was easy to set up. I tried to e-mail you to see if you had any suggestions for the software but your e-mail address didn't work so I just surfed around 'til I found this one. It's easy to set up --I recommend it if you have a site. Now you have to help get it going! :)
Ray

To alistair if you fully read my last comment that is pretty much what I just said but thanks for taking the time to paraphrase it for me. However, I would like to note that in all reality sports don't interest me in any way shape or form. While I don't necessarily hate them I cannot say that I like them either.
war

Alistair, No offense, but that's what he just said.
Ray

to the comment two below. THE LONG COMMENT. the way I understand a lot of the comments on this site is: you dont hate sports. you hate the loud, incoherent fans who pray to their sporting icons. those are the people you hate. and with the money side of your comment. I agree that teachers nurses etc. should be paid more, but you can be advised that this will never happen, and the more you worry about it. the more you will make yourself believe that you hate sports, I REPEAT: you dont hate sports, you hate the fans, the jocks who made you feel small and insignificant. fans who laugh at you for liking star trek, those are the people you hate
alistair davidson
nz

Holy crap! Y'all took my suggestion to add a BBS-type forum site and you did it! I was just scrolling thru the site and saw the link for it. wow. Thanks. I hope to see everyone there!
RaleighRob
Raleigh, NC USA

For those of you who hate the sports suck name just remember that www.mostsportsintheworldwiththexcetptionofafew.com would probably be a bit long for a website name. Most people on here would have no real objection to sports at all if it wasn't pushed on you at every chance people get. I personally get so tired of hearing people at my office talk about whatever game was played the night before. Then, they go on for a half hour or so about a "fantasy" football league. It's not even real and you cannot get them to shut up about it. We can't tell you how many times our favorite shows on television were pre-empted because they were showing some game. How fair is that to the loyal viewer of a show when the network says "screw you, we're putting on a baseball game."? Then, so many commercials are based off of sports. Just this afternoon I saw a Comcast Cable commercial about all the sports channels they offer (as I rolled my eyes), a beer commercial about how it helps you enjoy the game (rolls eyes again), and I saw a McDonalds commercial about painting your face for a sporting event. All of these commercials were in a 20 minutes span. You cannot even get away from it even if you try. I could go on because this is just the tip of the iceberg. Tell someone you don't like sports and see what response you get. Then, there are so many other issues such as how we value sports performance over academic performance, how sports "professionals" get paid so much more than nurses and teachers (yeah, that seems right), how sports are supposed to build character but when you read the news all you see is how they get in trouble with the law for bad behavior and drug charges, and so many other things not even listed here. The mentality that sports is the only important thing that one can have in their lives is truly what we are fighting against. If you like sports that is great but many of us are sick and tired of hearing about it every waking second. Some of us prefer to pursue other endeavors in our life but don't feel the need to shove it in your face. Many of us would just like for that courtesy to be returned. I personally love Star Trek but I don't expect you to like it. Furthermore, I respect your decision not to like it but most sports fans do not offer that olive branch. You only receive snide remarks if you indicate to people that you don't enjoy the same things that they do. This attitude that "sports is life" is really what most of us have a problem with. If you love to play hackey sack then please go ahead but don't take our dislike of sports personally. We would just like non sports fans to be treated with dignity and respect. If you think that nonsports people are treated with respect then read some of the entries in this guest book. This guestbook alone easily shows the attitude that we are fighting against. So, please read the entries and then ask us again if we are crazy.
war
Chicago,

ok well thats understandable. but my sport is snooker and there is in no way mindless hooliganists involved in the pro circuit
me

If you can understand how football is hated but not YOUR favorite sport, you're a typical sports fan and will never understand. We, of course, don't hate EVERY sport --we believe physical activity is good --but we hate ALL professional, team sports because of the shameless commercialism, mindless fandom (insert yourself here), associated hooliganism, and most of all because of the sheep mentality required to participate. We are capable of living our own lives and making our own accomplishments, while the average sports fan is not and must claim the achiements of "his" team. So Sports Suck is an appropriate name for this site --yes, there are exceptions --read our position statement. And yes, sports IS a big part of some societies --that's the problem. But some of us don't like it and never will. We're sick of loud-mouthed sports fans who bore us with continuous sports babble! We're tired of being stared at in disbelief when we say we don't watch sports! Sports are for social cripples and bullies. ok.. interesting site. i can see why football is hated. understandable, but why say. SPORT SUCKS. thats idiotic. sport is a big part of every society and why should you target all sports. you dont know every sport there is, and what happens when u find a sport that you actually like??? what will happen to this site?
Don

ok.. interesting site. i can see why football is hated. understandable, but why say. SPORT SUCKS. thats idiotic. sport is a big part of every society and why should you target all sports. you dont know every sport there is, and what happens when u find a sport that you actually like??? what will happen to this site?
sports inthusiest

Hey, I love this site, and this guestbook is great and all...but have any of the site owners ever thought of putting up a BBS of some sort. Just a simple bulletin system where folks can start threads on topics of discussion relevant to this site...and get to know one another and make friends too! Just a thought. ;-)
RaleighRob
Raleigh, NC USA

I just read about a former Ohio State star being charged on aggravated robbery charges. So, these are the role models for the youth of America. http://www.wbns.com/Global/story.asp?S=4310003 Yeah, Sports teach you so much and we should look up to those who play them. So, now that we have that myth out of the way what else do the sports nuts want us to debunk?
war
chicago, il

i hate sports big time, im finally happy now that ive found sports haters like me. and too the stupid sports fans who come on here and say stuff about you guys"you need to get thehell away from us and go back to your crappy super bowl or what ever!" why are they here anyway, good job on the sight, sports suck
zack <zacian@houston.rr.com>
fort worth, texas usa

To "Athlete who hates sports"...welcome! I think even the most hard-core sports hater will applaud anyone's efforts to get fit and healthy in diverse ways. Running, lifting weights, bicycling...these are things to improve a person's health and image. Not necessarily to "beat" someone and try to build your ego. As I mention below, it's a major shame it has taken public school Phys Ed instructors so freakin' long to realize that!
RaleighRob
Raleigh, NC

An indication that network execs are paying attention to the polls --Monday Night Football has been booted off ABC and moved to ESPN where we never have to see it again! Viewer polls have shown a declining percentage of Americans watch professional sports, including football, and ABC is trying to bolster their ratings by replacing sports coverage with top selling shows like Lost, The Bachelor, Wife Swap, NYPD Blue, and Extreme Makeover. Good job, ABC!!
Don

I just hate sports. That's all.
A. Sherman <anandzee@gmail.com>

It is pleasing to see a web site like this. I think what separates me from most others here (seemingly) is that I am very lean, muscular and athletic, however I have no use for team sports or the insipid "culture" surrounding it. I am athletic because I do a lot of jogging, I use a road bicycle for transportation, and I do a lot of independent strength training - primarily for health and functional reasons. I'm in a strange position, because my physique makes people REALLY think that I'm into their whole sports fanaticism. However, my impression of team sports has always been that they are a breeding ground for people with baseless vanity (And I've had a few run-ins with many of these tards where I outran them or deflated their egos with my own strength, heheh - so much for much of their superior athletic ability). They think they are special because they can toss balls around certain ways or some other mundane skill that is ridiculously easy - sports "strategy" (football) is a pitiful joke in how absurdly easy it is. Never mind that I find team sports to be horifically BORING, even if the people who played them were of better character. There are many healthier ways to be athletic, and team sports sure as hell isn't one of them in my worldview.
Athlete who hates sports <super_gotenks_3@yahoo.com>

the running theme through all of these sites is your dislike of loud, obnoxious fans of sporting events and teams. You don't hate sports. you hate sports fans.
howard cosell <sports@getalife.com>
charlotte, NC

this is a funny site. i hate sports too but i think we should remember that our goal is to make not liking sports as acceptable as not liking northern turnips. because i think that most people don't really hate sports fans. what they hate is the reaction they get when people discover they don't know anything about sports. and don't care to know anything. so, for that reason, i suggest a gentle reproach or just openly admitting a dislike for sports. as it becomes more common, it will become less shocking to sports fans. to get mad or to rant about sports fans risks the michael moore effect. look what happened to michael moore and all his democrat friends. they were so mad and sarcastic and abrasive they caused everyone or most people to vote for the republicans. in the same way, if we all are too abrasive when we talk about sports fans, we may drive them to like sports even more! for that reason, i encourage a mild, non-committal rejection of sports.
Jason

Well said. I can't stand listening to incredibly boring sports talk. I don't watch sports and don't know anything about them. And I'm a regular guy --with a brain.
Geo
Pasadena, CA USA

Many sports fans signed and complained about how many of us hate sports. Why does it offend you so much? For that matter why are you on here even commenting? There are thousands of sports boards for you to leave comments on and you are here? Why do you feel people who dislike sports are such a threat to you? It sounds like you have some deeper issues that you really should deal with before you try and post here next time. If you doubt there is a sports bias try this. When someone asks you if you watched the game last night. Tell them no and that you don't like sports. You might be suprised what sort of response you get. It isn't pretty. Most people look at your like you just killed their puppy. The puppy look is the best case scenario because most people will try and argue with you. They just can't comprehend that someone might not actually like sitting in front of a television, for hours on end, watching guys throw a ball to each other over and over again. If you like sports, that's great, but could you leave the rest of us alone that happen not to like the same things that you do. Remember there are plenty of boards out there to post messages about your unusual love about sports on.
war
Chicago, IL USA

God, I can't believe front page news and headlines on TV is all about this baseball player who's getting a deal for like $52 million dollars! I still can never understand why an athlete should ever, ever, get paid more than a doctor. (Hell, more than a librarian, for that matter!) What I did find funny was that the owner of his new team is making him cut his hair and shave his beard because they prefer their athletes to be "clean cut" instead of looking like a hippy. Puh-leeze...jocks who aren't cleancut are probably the only ones that will ever get an ounce of respect from me. At least they have a hint of anti-conformist in them!
RaleighRob
Raleigh, NC USA

these other people who say sprots rulls on here are idiots, if they like sports so much, then why the hell are they on here. Jocks and sports must be destoried, so should gangs. but mostly sports. im a nerd and proud. SPORTS SUCKS!!!
zach <zacian@houston.rr.com>
Houston, texas usa

If you do have a 4.0 grade average, it's a sad indication of the quality of our education system. >>Sports are the best thing that ever happened. Its not our >>fault that you guys and girls just suck at them and have >>to complain about them. and after reading some posts >>about us being stupid. well i play hockey and am on the >>road every weekend, going to different states, and still >>hold a 4.0 average, and i dont play for my school. thank >>you shut up
Don

The comparison is of behaviors. Kids who can't do well in school are channeled toward something they CAN do: sports. And, because of the encouragement they receive in school, they develop an unreasonable idea of how important sports are.
Bob
Charleston, WV

I cannot believe anyone could compare the Special Olympics with commercialized competitive team sports, and keep a straight face! That's like comparing a nonprofit shelter with a multi-million dollar housing developer!
RaleighRob
Raleigh, NC USA

Okay just to get this strait with everyone i don't exactly hate sports. I do play sports because it is good for you, like skateboarding and skiing and paintballing. But when you yell and scream violently in sports like hockey and football i don't get the fucking point. So what I'm really trying to say is I HATE JOCKS and with a passion!! Go to hell and stay there you MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
Anti Jock <kraft_dinner_1825@hotmail.com>
Deloraine, MB Canada

Sports are the best thing that ever happened. Its not our fault that you guys and girls just suck at them and have to complain about them. and after reading some posts about us being stupid. well i play hockey and am on the road every weekend, going to different states, and still hold a 4.0 average, and i dont play for my school. thank you shut up.
Mike
United states

I have nothing against para olympians,but have total contempt for the greedy idiots in pro sports and the sheep that follow them. Sport in England was better when it was amateur and not shoved down your throat every minute. Hey, I quite like the Olympics , where you have people who spend all their savings to do judo or shooting for their country, but despise guys who demand millions of pounds just to kick a ball about.
Glenn <GGlenn34@aol.com>
England

I do see your point and I agree that sports are a complete waste of time but I don't think you really understand what sports mean to sports fans. I don't think you understand what sports represents to them. Some people are born without skills or talent. Learning doesn't come easily to them, they are academically challenged and can't compete in school. These poor kids would be total losers if the school system didn't give these unfortunates SOMETHING they could do. Enter sports here. Ever watch a special olympics event where kids are praised for their achievements? It's the same thing. When kids can't do well in school, they're guided toward sports to help their self-esteem. And then they grow up with the totally backwards idea that sports are important and academics, less so. But who can blame them? The school system encouraged it and the sports fan isn't capable of realizing his failings himself.
Bob

I really can't decide whether this site is satire or not... At times it seems dead serious, then some ideal comes up that is too ignorant to take seriously. I'm going to go with satire...
Target <nope@faake.net>
USA

SPORTS SUCK!!!!!!
Me
Canada

Can it really be? The end of legalised homo-sadism in schools? I hope it's true but if the coaches are out of a job, where will they go next? Bullies aren't welcome anywhere else.
Geo

CNN's website had an article today boasting that more and more Physical Education courses in high schools are stressing health and fitness instead of competitive sports...including fitness activities like walking, archery, dance, fishing, yoga, etc. Finally! (Another reason why I think I was born a decade too early.) I mean, this is common sense to me...yet it seems to only now hit the mainstream. And it's so obvious the students are getting more from health and fitness activities than competitive sports. Maybe our society is finally getting a tad bit sane again.
RaleighRob
Raleigh, NC USA

Hey Owen, we went on strike when I was in high school in the eighties about compulsory games. It didn't achieve a great deal, but they knew there was a hard core of us who refused to take part and left us alone despite using threats about refusing to give us references for jobs and further education.
Glenn <GGlenn34@aol.com>
England

The only way to stop this self-perpetuating ignorance is to BAN sports from schools! Break the cycle of ignorance! Just because your parents were subjected to it doesn't mean YOU have to be! Make America a better place for your children. BAN SPORTS FROM SCHOOL!
Tragically Hip Owen
Allentown, PA USA!

Ray Generally speaking martial arts aren't tainted by money and television coverage is rare in Britain( olympic judo is as much as we get.)The whole martial arts culture is one of supression of ego, certainly someone who loses a judo contest wouldn't scream abuse at his/her opponent or attack their opponent, which seems to be happening more and more in pro sports. I was talking to an old friend the other day who trained in judo and aikijitsu and he told me the same thing: he'd rather sit on a bus full of martial artists than a rugby team.
Glenn <GGlenn34@aol.com>
England

Hi Glenn, I used to visit the dojo too. But it's been a while and I can't really remember if anyone ever talked about sports. But I don't think so. I wouldn't have stayed in it as long as I did if they did. The kind of people into martial arts, in my experience, are smart and well-adjusted and take responsibility for their actions. They're not the type to live vicariously through the actions of some over-paid jock. Sports fans, on the other hand, DO define their lives by how well OTHER people do. When "their" team wins, they're on top of the world. When it loses, they're in the depths of depression. We should have sympathy for such simple-minded brutes.
Ray

I used to do martial arts and believe me most of the people that did MAs either disliked or weren't interested in stupid pro sports. I know for a fact most martial artists never get paid for competing in tournaments and would never dream of asking for payment. Unlike ball games.
Glenn <GGlenn34@aol.com>
England

I hate every thing about sports. Except that it's possible that sports will start a giant war that will whipe these sence-less sport...ers off this planet.

But I've realized that the source of the promblem is competition. Why do humens have to try to be better then everyone else? For example, the tobaco companies. The only reason they make cigaretts so adictive is so that their company can be better then other companies. It's not like they care that they're killing millions of people, as long as they're making money. And this is the same competiveness we're teaching our children.
As I say, "The only difference between a sports 'game' and a war is that a war involves more people."

Hey, I don't have cable or digital, and neither did my late grandmother, which meant we only had four channels to watch. Guess what, on a wet day last summer, my choices were two channels of Wimbledon, cricket and Formula 1. I nearly topped myself with despair.

You're right, Andreas. I couldn't agree more. Although cable IS better than the three or four public stations (that you can get free) in that we can avoid sports (usually), we're still left paying for sports coverage --even if we don't watch it. I never thought of that. I'm gonna write my cable company!

I really appreciate what you guys are doing. The social heirarchy in my high school was always that the jocks got all the respect. First, sports don't have any place in an academic institution. Also, they don't prepare young minds for the future in any way. Keep fighting the good fight.

Hey, Andreas, I gather large numbers of American kids can barely read and write, but if you cna hardly read or write but can play sports, you get a free place in a university. I would sooner give the free place to some poor kid who wanted to train to be a doctor, rather than some meathead who gets subsidised to play American football and is of no real value to society

It always seems to be such a GREAT cause, for those of us who think sports suck, to have to pay 30-40$ per month for a cable or satelite subscription because it includes 28 sports channels that seperatly cost 25$, but can you buy the package without sports? hell no.
Damn those sports. Remove sports from the US and take the money people invest in sports, and fix the american education system.

Hey England are playing Austria for a place in the football World Cup at the moment and I'm demonstrating my patriotism by writing in this guest book. Hey I'd laugh if those overpaid, not very good tossers are beaten by a team of part timers.

If you think America and England have more than their fair share of rabid sports-mad hethans, spare a thought for us stuck here in Australia! This country is virtually driven by Sports - the education system values throwing and catching a ball as much as english grammar or math and its media is under a virtual sports stranglehold.

Forget missing out on the Monday morning watercooler conversation, if you don't spectate sports here - you're considered a social outcast! The situation is so disappointingly bad that "Sports Institutes" replace standard educational curriculum for youngsters whom exhibit sporting promise; Companies regularly promote Sports days where employees dress in their team colours and our "Australian of the Year" award was won by a sportswoman! Indeed, sportspeople are viewed as "heros" and saturate much of our print and TV media.

Typical Australians have no tolerance for individualism or not liking sports - The tired old accusations of being homosexual, soft or a "wuss" (laughable local slang) are levelled.

Australian Football is perhaps the most boring, inane, uninspired, insipid, irrelevant, unsophisticated, laughable and downright stupid "sports" game on the planet. It relies on brawn - not skill, and the standard uniform is very effeminate (tight knitted sleeveless vests and hotpants). Those from the US and UK have probably not witnessed this mindless drivel because the rest of the world is simply not interested in it - but let me tell you, from a lowpoint in the mid 90s, the game appears to be increasing in popularity due to the blatant commercialism and media support. Co-workers whom I personally know to have no interest in this garbage game, still engage in "how bout them blues?" chit-chat and claim to follow a team because they cannot bear to fight against common sentiment. This is particularly sad. I quite enjoy telling people I don't follow Football when confronted with "Go the Doggies/C'arn the Reds" small talk in meetings.

Unfortunately, the stranglehold the media and corporate conglomerations have on this country will only continue the brainwashing.

"Mate, I don't give a f*ckin rats @rse whether your team won or not. It matters to me about as much as it would matter to your team if they just found out you dropped dead from choking on a chicken bone."

Good work, let's just have done with it and ban sports completely. No middle ground. Ban the whole bloody lot. Even if you enjoy playing it, tough luck. Some people enjoy cock fighting, doesn't mean it's right, does it? Don't give money to encourage young atheletes, stuff the lot of them. Give the cash to people that don't have enough food to live. Are my views extreme? Possibly.

Two Dog
What actually happens is Ray gets the e mails after a couple of days, but for some reason this error message appears. I've sent three e mails off last month, received the undelivered e mail, and then seen my comments on the letters page a few days later.

Did you know that e-mails are not reaching your fine, upstanding web site? I just tried to send one from the 2005 letters page, and it came back "undeliverable".

Hye, I've just come up with a theory, sports are a form of social control. Dictators like Hitler used team sports and forced exercise as a form of social control and to stifle intelligent thought.

England, or rather 11 greedy morons, were playing today and I had so much desire to watch them play I went to buy some shoes and went for a walk on the harbour. Apparently they won, but I don't care and please don't bore me about this when I go out for a drink.

Anonymous Rex, who won the game? Don't ask me and don't even bring up the subject of why Crapchester United weren't offside. Football sucks and rugby is total crap.

I don't mind sports I play rugby and hockey but jesus I hate people that take sports beyond a game, I'm from PEI and I hate to go watch sports because its a rediculous thing to do and all the fans are hicks! Take baseball for example, are these people serious, haha! Its a game
and those parents are playing for their kids haha! its sad!

An interesting observation I've noted:

When someone such as I proclaims my hatred for sports, I get derisively called "gay" for it.

So, then I show them their own hypocrisy by pointing out the homoeroticism in their beloved sports - you know, with patting all their jock buddies' asses and winding down with that hot steamy group shower...

But then the masses suddenly change their opinion when I point out the blatant hypocrisy - instead of calling me "gay" for hating sports, they'll begin to call me a homophobic asshole, even though I don't have any beef with homosexuals - I just pointed out some hypocrisy.

I have a lot of horror stories about sports, though. Like how the high school football cheerleaders in a small town I used to live in literally ganged up and beat the shit out of someone they felt superior to, and they sent some people to the hospital.

Dear I Hate Sports,
Your site has really touched me. I have been verbally abused by jocks not for being a nerd, but for skateboarding and liking punk music. So fucking what? Wigger shit jocks think they're so great, i'll fucking shoot them all. In seventh and eigth gradea at my school, we don't have P.E. we have athletics, and every kid is forced to do a team sport three seasons out of the year. It is complete and utter bullshit. One and a half hours a day doing pointless shit with brainless assholes is really getting to me and I think drastic action should be taken soon. But anyway, thank you so much for sharing the feeling that I'm not the only one getting picked on by the most evil race on earth... jocks.

what a buch of crybabys! ihate sports i hate sports! u hate sports because you were too clumsy to play. always picked last for softball? boohoo! face it you got no skills and u cant get laid! if i ever catch u out talking this crap i will put out youre lights! in front of all your queer friends

Youre totally gonna love this.

http://www.football-linx.com/4dcf09c40.jpg

now to think of a caption.... football for what it truly is...

keep the fight alive!

You guys are my heros, and i thank you. Im totally buying pins for all my friends.

Great site! I only wish I could shove it in the face of every sports fan I've ever known! Like you, I detest sports fans and here's why: they are all followers. There's nothing wrong with being a follower --often it's necessary and being a good follower is just as important as being a good leader. But.. the typical sports fan is weak. He must draw his strength from the crowd. They find comfort in the fact that they can say anything they like and go unchallenged. Because to challenge them would be to challenge ALL sports fans. It feels pretty safe to them. It's like the freedom a religious zealot feels as he condemns whoever disagrees with him --he's safe because who would dare challenge the church?! But thankfully, those days are drawing to a close. We're not afraid to challenge authority any more. We're not afraid to say that sports suck and anyone who hides behind them is a weakling. I just wonder what weak people will hide behind next. Probably politcal correctness. That's still sacred ground here in the U.S. Get ready for the ranks of PC to swell!
Again, great site, and Sports SUCK!

Yes, these guys can be arses, Tony, they seem to think they're rock hard and no one can touch them. I'll admit not all of them are like that, but the majority of them seem to think that because they play rugby league, they're invicible. As I mentioned in an earlier post, one received a piffling prison sentence for beating up hiw wife, who was a lot smaller than him, and most of the dumb fans seemed to excuse this. In a more serious incident one has been charged with murder and there have been countless cases of them beating people up, intimidating people and assaulting women.

Another thing that is so crap at the moment is the amount of people who wear sportswear in Britain. I mean, what's the point of wasting £ 60 on a tracksuit just because it has the word Adidas in big letters on it, or a football shirt with another guy's name on it. These people are referred to as chavs over here and there is a big backlash against them by intelligent people. Check out a website called www.chavscum.co.uk.

Beat up by a bunch of fuckin' thugs?! Thank GOD I don't live in Europe where that kind of thing is tolerated. I can understand your frustration. The next time I see a guy wearing a Rugby shirt, I'll spit on him and think of you. Down with Rugby! Rugby sucks!

My boss is pretty sporty, he has a blue belt in karate and works out, but he hates all these people who talk about nothing else but sport and avoids sport on the television. He prefers to battle away in the dojo for his black belt than sit on his backside and watch some guys chasing a ball.
I had the misfortune to endure a group of rugby league players- Northern English variant of rugby- in my local pub last night. What a bunch of homophobic( everything was gay this, gay that, pig ignorant, aggressive proles they were, though, as I've pointed out before, this game has produced more than its fai

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