Am I Selfish?

[Fat Man]

Have I ever, for example: been outright disrespectful of you?

*raises hand*

By the way, some of the currently active members have chosen to not participate in these latest heated exchanges.

I gave up trying to discuss anything with Fat Man, no offense intended, but it's like talking to a brick wall. he only pinpoints some parts of the posts he needs to start talking about how religion is bad or how crap his life was, I know those problems existed and may exist even today, but many of those incidents like a teacher hitting a kid may still happen today but with little chance, and also, when it happened before reports should of have been made, a little visit to a doctor to see the injury caused could of have led to questions, and after a proper acussation was made, that teacher would have gotten his so deserved jail sentence. He never truly reads all the information I or any new member posts "unless he's brought his attention that he doesn't", just like it may happen with this post.

For your information, after the head bashing incident, the following year that teacher was fired and could not get a teaching job anywhere else.

I don't know why formal charges of assault and battery were never brought against him, why he never had to stand trial, and why he never did jail time.

I was only just a kid in the 5th grade at the time.

So, the teacher got off easy.

Why!!! I really don't know!

Maybe it's because what he did to me, he did in the name of "physical fitness" which was a big deal back in the 1960s.

Oh gee! There I go being cynical again!

By the way, my question that you quote, it was address to Earl.

Now, he'll have to go back to the previous page to read my response to him.

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To Earl:

Please go back a page, and read my response to you.

Thank you.

[Weltall]

head bashing incident

Before you read this, DO PLEASE READ IT ALL, and don't jump to one of your "I DESERVED THE BASHED HEAD CAUSE I'M A XXX" rants.

How bad was that incident? did it make you bleed? did it swoll up? how hard was the "bashing", take note I'm not saying it never happened, ALL of US tend to exagerate (<- spelled?) when we are victim of something, I DO know from personal experience from a very very, embarrasing moment. I even shake my head when I remember how I ended up giving some bad rep to a teacher.

Have I ever, for example: been outright disrespectful of you?

*raises hand*

What about this? it's part of my post as well.

[Fat Man]

head bashing incident

Before you read this, DO PLEASE READ IT ALL, and don't jump to one of your "I DESERVED THE BASHED HEAD CAUSE I'M A XXX" rants.

How bad was that incident? did it make you bleed? did it swoll up? how hard was the "bashing", take note I'm not saying it never happened, ALL of US tend to exagerate (<- spelled?) when we are victim of something, I DO know from personal experience from a very very, embarrasing moment. I even shake my head when I remember how I ended up giving some bad rep to a teacher.

As I had mentioned, after the head bashing I had dizzy spells and headaches. I was 11 years old at the time, and after that, and during my teen ages years I would have these headaches and dizzy spells that would come and go.

Also, it was after the head bashing that I had great difficulty controlling my emotions, so there had to have been some brain damage as a result.

He was the same teacher who punched me in the stomach with a basketball. He punched me so hard I nearly blacked out. He could have easily fractured my ribs.

And as for giving a teacher a bad rep . . .

He already had a bad rep when he came into my town to get a job as a teacher.

I found out years later, that before he came to my town, he was teaching in a small two-room school house out in the country in Michigan. It had only two teachers, and they would take turns taking care of the wood burning stove uesed to heat the school during the winter.

One day, it was my teachers turn to take care of the wood burning stove, and because of his carelessness the little school burned down.

In my little town up in Minnesota, when it came to hiring people, we usually got the rejects.

We had a sheriff, a deputy, and only one police officer. The police officer once worked in St. Cloud Minnesota. He was thrown off the police force after he raped a 12 year old girl.

Yet he was able to get a job as a cop in my little town.

So, my town and the people in it deserved their bad rep!

Have I ever, for example: been outright disrespectful of you?

*raises hand*

What about this? it's part of my post as well.

That question was addressed to Earl on the previous page. OK?

[Fit Man]

Badreligion, I never aid I was without my flaws. But now that we feel the need to mention things like that, you're a very flawed individual yourself. So glad we have that all in the clear.

Earl: Well, you tried. It seems that Fat Man still refuses to be civil, called me a "sports bore". I must say, that being a sports fan I find such a comment about me HIGHLY offensive. He also continues to play the victim card when it gets him nowhere. I don't think there is any chance of getting anywhere with this guy.

I'm sorry that you've taken this fighting so harshly. I see that you're trying very hard to try to and resolve our differences and to meet a mutual understand. I appreciate your efforts here, and like I have said before, you're the only person who is civil here. I mean I guess you can count the people who DIDN'T post, like you've mentioned, but I count them as simply neutral. In my opinion, you're the civil one, the voice of reason and knowledge.

Fat Man: So, you ARE reading my posts! You're nothing but a liar, and a bad liar at that. And you haven't even given Earl any respect. Saying things such as "Christard" is offensive to Christians, even if you only mean "some" Christians. If I were to say I hate FatShits, you'd be offended. Even if I said I that meant I only hated "some" fatasses, you'd still take that personally, wouldn't you? Don't lie, you would. I'm sure your misplaced anger has directly affected just about everyone on this forum. Why don't you TRY and not be a bitter old man for once, and see how it goes? TRY to be happy, for once in your life.

You also call our government a disgrace to humanity. The same government that gives you handouts? Finally something we can agree on! I agree that it's a disgrace that the government is forcing hard working people like me to pay for you to sit on your ass. I'm a full time college student and work almost 40 hours when classes aren't in session, and probably around 25 when classes are. I work hard for my shit and it's depressing to me that my hard earned money is going to people like you. However, our government does have redeeming qualities, so I should give them credit for that.

Weltall: Sometimes I wonder why we even bother talking to this guy.

[recovering_fan]

Well, the wasp hasn't gone away yet. So I'll swat at it some, and see if that helps...

You also call our government a disgrace to humanity. The same government that gives you handouts? Finally something we can agree on! I agree that it's a disgrace that the government is forcing hard working people like me to pay for you to sit on your ass. I'm a full time college student and work almost 40 hours when classes aren't in session, and probably around 25 when classes are. I work hard for my shit and it's depressing to me that my hard earned money is going to people like you. However, our government does have redeeming qualities, so I should give them credit for that.

Weltall: Sometimes I wonder why we even bother talking to this guy.

What would you propose then, genius? Would you propose to let people like Fat Man die?

BTW, what the hell do you do for work? I bet you sit at a desk, chatting with your buddies, and merely call it "work."

Whatever you do, it obviously doesn't involve writing in proper English. What kind of dumbass college let you in, anyhow?

--RF

[recovering_fan]

Fat Man,

Do you remember WHEN he called you a disgrace to humanity? I noticed he doesn't wait too long to get personal. If you tell me when and where, I can report it.

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Earl,

There is no point in being civil to Fit Man. He isn't here to discuss things; he's here to insult people who say anything bad about sports. People like him are cancers, and it makes about as much sense to reason with him as with a cancer. He picked the discussion with Fat Man up right where E.D. told him too.

[HugeFanOfBadReligion]

Badreligion, I never aid I was without my flaws. But now that we feel the need to mention things like that, you're a very flawed individual yourself. So glad we have that all in the clear.

When I said you were flawed, I specifically meant that you appeared to criticize members of this forum for being uncivil, when you yourself aren't quite civil. I've never treated you with courtesy that is any worse than what you've done at times on this site, in fact the respect I've given you (and you haven't always shown that you deserve this respect) has sometimes been much greater than what you've given me, such as when you assumed several extremely false things about me with no grounds for those assumptions. I could have easily responded with false assumptions about you, but I didn't. So I think I've done pretty fairly. Additionally, I dispute the fact that you can tell whether or not I am a "very flawed" individual just based on your interactions with me on a website. Also, I'm pretty sure this will be my last post in this thread, unless I really feel like there is something I need to add, the only thing these arguments are doing are upsetting members who aren't involved with them.

[Brigan]

Fat Man,

Do you remember WHEN he called you a disgrace to humanity? I noticed he doesn't wait too long to get personal. If you tell me when and where, I can report it.

Now that you mention about "reporting", Fat Man has broken several rules posted by the Admin of this forum. I would like to see what would this "reporting" serve at this moment.

The same rules applies to everyone equally as far as I know right?

I've seen few times Earl encouraging new members that don't agree with Fat Man (myself included) to stay and keep posting here after they receive a "Welcome" that Fat Man craps out.

Pro Tip: try to view Fat Man's posts, now use your imagination.....change the anti-sport stuff from his post for PRO-sports stuff and you'll get your typical "Sport Bore"

Brigan, I don't see what you're getting at, I'm pretty sure I read that topic quite a while ago but I don't intend on re-readiing it just because you posted the link.

Pointing out that Fat Man tends to be an asshole MOST of the times. but you knew that already.

[Fat Man]

Fat Man,

Do you remember WHEN he called you a disgrace to humanity? I noticed he doesn't wait too long to get personal. If you tell me when and where, I can report it.

Yes, I can tell you exactly when.

It was back on Friday, August 05, 2011 at 8:20 PM when he started a new topic dedicated to me.

Fat Man Needs to go, play sports, and get some damn exercise
http://www.sportssuck.org/phpbb2/viewto ... how#p31850

OK, since I have put Fit Shit on ignore, I had to click on Display This Post to see exactly what he has said.

It was like taking the lid off a garbage can! PEEEEEEEUUUUUUU!!!

Anyway, here is what he said on his very first post.

No wonder Fat Man hates sports so much: he's fat and simply un-athletic. Just because you aren't good at something, Fat Man, doesn't give you the right to call it wrong and hate on it so much. If you actually got off of your fat ass for once in your life and ran a few laps, you overall health will improve greatly. Plus, exercise is not only good for your body. It is scientifically proven that exercise releases endorphins in the brain that lead to a happier individual. Many people on this site just seem so bitter, especially Fat Man.

Another reason you claim to hate sports is because bullies picked on you? Well BOO-HOO! You wouldn't have been such an easy target if you weren't so fat and out of shape to begin with. Stay in shape, and you won't be messed with. It's called survival of the fittest, and that's basic evolution. But you probably failed biology class, didn't you? You seem to have the IQ of a dog.

Fat Man is a disgrace to humanity. He promotes being a fat, lazy sloth. If the whole world were like Fat Man, it would be a depressing place. For one, our society wouldn't be able to do the simplest of tasks, such as manual labor. All of our citizens would get a heart attack at the lift of a finger. Fit citizens are simply more productive and much better workers than fat workers. Study after study has shown this.

My general point here, is that sports aren't bad at all. They promote good fitness when the sport is used in its purest form. This leads to a happier society, and a productive society.

He failed to take into consideration the following . . .

1.) I'm now 59 years old, I'm going to turn 60 on September 30 and I have arthritis in both knees and ankles. It's especially bad in my left knee. Sometimes the pain in my left knee wakes me up in the middle of the night and I get up and take some Aspirin, and apply a heating pad. So, I'm hardly in any condition to go out jogging.

2.) He claims that the bullies picked on me in school because I was fat and out of shape. WRONG AGAIN!!! When I was in grade school, I was not fat yet. I didn't start becoming over-weigtht until after I was 13 years old. I was no good at sports because my left knee was crippled up, the result of a car accident when I was 4 years old, and ever since then, I was no able to run, and I walked with a limp. There were times when my left knee hurts so much I had to apply a strong ointment, like DEEP HEATING RUB or Ben Gay (yeah! I can hardly wait for some more sarcasm on that!) to my knee and use a heating pad.

Then he says . . . . .

Fit citizens are simply more productive and much better workers than fat workers.

Uh, excuse me . . . but a person who is crippled up with arthritis and overweight can still be a useful member of society. True, I wouldn't make a very good ditch digger, or a professional jock, but I could work in an office, or I could be a teacher or a university professor teaching astronomy and physics.

But first, one has to graduate from high school, and finish getting a college degree.

But since I wasn't allowed to stay in school and finish my formal education, then what was I suppose to do??? Bag groceries or scrub toilets for the rest of my life at minimum wage???

Yeah! Even though I scored 150 points on a standard IQ test when I was 13 years old, and was able to read at adult level when I was only in the third grade, I'm suppose to do menial shit-jobs at minimum wage for the rest of my life for a country in ingrates who had beaten and raped back when I was 17 years old!

Uh huh! So, that's how the system works. First, one is denied a decent education, kept out of school, then beaten and raped! That where we get our grocery baggers, by destroying some individuals emotionally and mentally if they're not good at sports.

Yeah! That's how America works.

Also, America has decided that it doesn't need or want anymore people pursuing a career in science, teaching evolution, or that the universe is billions of years old, because every good American knows that the universe was created in 6 days and less than 10,000 years old!

We don't need anymore upstarts subverting American culture.

So, both sports AND religion are responsible for fucking up this country and destroying individual lives!

I guess the PE coaches and some of my teachers thought that they were trying to save my soul or some shit!

FUCK YOU AMERICA!

I WANT TO GO TO FUCKING HELL, SO LEAVE ME BE!!!

ALSO . . . . .

YOU CAN ALL GO BAG YOUR OWN FUCKING GROCERIES AND GO SCRUB YOUR OWN FUCKING TOILETS! IN FACT, YOU INGRATES CAN LICK THE TOILETS CLEAN WITH YOUR TONGUES!

Anyway . . . . .

For me, sports was not an option. I had to hit the books and study.

But I was even denied that option.

Fit Shit is so fucking ignorant he smells bad!

From the very beginning, he made assumptions and passed judgement on me before knowing the facts!

So, he was bad from the very start!

Earl,

There is no point in being civil to Fit Man. He isn't here to discuss things; he's here to insult people who say anything bad about sports. People like him are cancers, and it makes about as much sense to reason with him as with a cancer. He picked the discussion with Fat Man up right where E.D. told him too.

Yes, Earl.

Please do check out his earliest forum posts.

Thank you.

Fat Man,

Do you remember WHEN he called you a disgrace to humanity? I noticed he doesn't wait too long to get personal. If you tell me when and where, I can report it.

Now that you mention about "reporting", Fat Man has broken several rules posted by the Admin of this forum. I would like to see what would this "reporting" serve at this moment.

The same rules applies to everyone equally as far as I know right?

I've seen few times Earl encouraging new members that don't agree with Fat Man (myself included) to stay and keep posting here after they receive a "Welcome" that Fat Man craps out.

Pro Tip: try to view Fat Man's posts, now use your imagination.....change the anti-sport stuff from his post for PRO-sports stuff and you'll get your typical "Sport Bore"

Brigan, I don't see what you're getting at, I'm pretty sure I read that topic quite a while ago but I don't intend on re-readiing it just because you posted the link.

Pointing out that Fat Man tends to be an asshole MOST of the times. but you knew that already.

Yeah??? And I need to point out that it was either you Brigan, or Weltall, that kept saying that what I have been saying IN MY DEFENSE was either, irrelevant or unrelated stuff!

No, I'm not going to waste my time going back through the previous forum posts to check which one of you it was. So, fuck it!

Uh huh! I'm being attacked by Fit Shit and no matter what I say, in my defense, one of you guys call it irrelevant or unrelated stuff!

SO, FUCK YOU TOO!!!

NOTICE!!!

I will happily take back the insults that I had dished out to Brigan, or Weltall if they would just acknowledge that what I have tried to say IN MY DEFENSE against Fit Shit was NOT irrelevant or unrelated stuff, because what I had tried to say IN MY DEFENSE, was very much related and relevant!!!\

OK???

[Brigan]

Now onto Fit Man, Which I find it extremely controversial and funny.

He joins this forum and starts going agaisnt Fat Man, who he clearly used a direct way to get Fat Man's attention, one could even say it got to a Personal Level... but the fact is that Fat Man's been doing it too for a while and any of you have yet realized, even when someone (from this board included) get's full of his attitude he still plays out that he's not to completely blame. and resumes with the hate onwards.

from the little reading I've done on this forum's past, the only member who has done something about it was Earl, which was on the Andy issue, ( I wonder if he would still be banned if Earl wasn't so shocked about his post)

Even I that got drawn into registering after taking notice from his behaviour, all I said was some advice and still I got this "screw you" "I don't need help". got insults and shit and I still remained civil (proof is there in case you doubt)

You can't deny that what Fit Man states about Fat Man isn't true, be it the way he expressed it, either civil or rude, the fact remains. Fat Man is a hateful person.

[Fat Man]

Now onto Fit Man, Which I find it extremely controversial and funny.

He joins this forum and starts going agaisnt Fat Man, who he clearly used a direct way to get Fat Man's attention, one could even say it got to a Personal Level... but the fact is that Fat Man's been doing it too for a while and any of you have yet realized, even when someone (from this board included) get's full of his attitude he still plays out that he's not to completely blame. and resumes with the hate onwards.

from the little reading I've done on this forum's past, the only member who has done something about it was Earl, which was on the Andy issue, ( I wonder if he would still be banned if Earl wasn't so shocked about his post)

Even I that got drawn into registering after taking notice from his behaviour, all I said was some advice and still I got this "screw you" "I don't need help". got insults and shit and I still remained civil (proof is there in case you doubt)

You can't deny that what Fit Man states about Fat Man isn't true, be it the way he expressed it, either civil or rude, the fact remains. Fat Man is a hateful person.

No, actually, I'm a very loving person!

Yeah! I just love football, and all the football players! They are my heroes!

And I just love being thrown out of school and being denied an education!

And most of all, I loved getting beaten and raped back when I was 17 years old!

Can't ya just feel the love emanating from me???

[recovering_fan]

You can't deny that what Fit Man states about Fat Man isn't true, be it the way he expressed it, either civil or rude, the fact remains. Fat Man is a hateful person.

When you hear hate spewed at you by idiots 12 hours a day, it's easy to get jaded.

Fat Man comes here to vent, that's clear. I don't believe he's naturally a hateful person. So there's your supposedly impossible denial.

[recovering_fan]

Now that you mention about "reporting", Fat Man has broken several rules posted by the Admin of this forum. I would like to see what would this "reporting" serve at this moment.

Shucks, while we're on the topic, let's ban everyone of has ever broken the rule against "triple posting." (No, I'm kidding, guys, not really. Relax.)

The point is that Fit Man came here for the sole purpose of harassing and terrorising another person at the one place that person usually isn't terrorised. As far as I know Fat Man is not guilty of the same.

Who would do something like that?

Let's all just think about what type of idiot would post 50 times (wordily, too, almost every time) for the sole person of terrorising another person.

He probably did this from "work", too. Whatever that means...

[Fat Man]

Now that you mention about "reporting", Fat Man has broken several rules posted by the Admin of this forum. I would like to see what would this "reporting" serve at this moment.

Shucks, while we're on the topic, let's ban everyone of has ever broken the rule against "triple posting." (No, I'm kidding, guys, not really. Relax.)

The point is that Fit Man came here for the sole purpose of harassing and terrorising another person at the one place that person usually isn't terrorised. As far as I know Fat Man is not guilty of the same.

Who would do something like that?

Let's all just think about what type of idiot would post 50 times (wordily, too, almost every time) for the sole person of terrorising another person.

He probably did this from "work", too. Whatever that means...

Nah! That loser is probably too busy flipping burgers or scrubbing toilets. He probably works somewhere they don't have computers.

So, he has to wait to come home to his single-axle trailer home and log on with his text browser, the kind with the green or amber screen to post in these forums.

OK, I'm just going to post this one more time.

I need to point out that it was either Brigan, or Weltall, that kept saying that what I have been saying IN MY DEFENSE was either, irrelevant or unrelated stuff!

No, I'm not going to waste my time going back through the previous forum posts to check which one of them it was. So, fuck it!

Uh huh! I'm being attacked by Fit Shit and no matter what I say, in my defense, one of these guys calls it irrelevant or unrelated stuff!

SO, FUCK THEM!!!

NOTICE!!!

I will happily take back the insults that I had dished out to Brigan, or Weltall if they would just simply acknowledge that what I have tried to say IN MY DEFENSE against Fit Shit was NOT irrelevant or unrelated stuff, because what I had tried to say IN MY DEFENSE, was very much related and relevant!!!

OK???

[recovering_fan]

Fat Man,

Do you remember WHEN he called you a disgrace to humanity? I noticed he doesn't wait too long to get personal. If you tell me when and where, I can report it.

Done.

This will, hopefully, be my last post on the topic of Fit Man.

He's going back on ignore. I just wish there were some way to ignore people's replies to him.