International I Hate Sports Club

Sporthater2000 wrote:Could we just end this debate? Fit Shitis a worthless fucking retard who says that people who play sport are great and have lives and tells all he doctors all the scientists that they are stupid geeks who just do dirty work for you retarded fuckers while you sit there watching idiots run around the oval chasing a ball! Fat man don't let this dick offend you, your past is completely relevant to this topic, I don't care what anyone else says but your past is completely relevant.

Let's just end this debate, I have an idiot who acts exactly like Fit Shit, his name is Jacob he tells me I'm a worthless fat fuck I feel like snapping that skinny stick in half but i Don't Instead I tease him back and call him a lifeless sports fan!

Troll harder... c'mon you can do it!

Brigan wrote:

Fat Man wrote:By the way, why don't we stop discussing who could kick who's ass, it's fairly ridiculous and childish, especially considering this argument is happening over the Internet.

We're not discussing it actually, Since Fat Man thought of "knocking people with his cane" (on a powered Wheelchair) We just pointed reality to him, in an attempt for him to drop the meaningless and rather Retarded Threats.

First of all, um... I'm not Fat Man (look at your quotes). Second of all, when you say "We" in your post, I can safely assume you meant you and Fit Man. But Fit Man doesn't exactly contribute to your righteous cause, Brigan, especially in the last 2 sentences of this post.

Fit Man wrote:I could whoop your ass so hard you'd regret trying to start anything with me. I'm just way too fast and agile and strong.

That's just making Fit Man seem like an asshole and he's not going to stop any threats of violence with that. Again, this is the Internet, don't try to act tough because you're just making yourself look like a tool. This isn't the Jersey Shore.

I know that's a sarcastic comment I'm just trying to end this debate I know you have your own opinion but so do I but what fat man really wants to know is why it's irrelevent, and so do I if you could provide a reason why it's irrelevant then I might understand.

HugeFanOfBadReligion wrote:

Brigan wrote:

Fat Man wrote:By the way, why don't we stop discussing who could kick who's ass, it's fairly ridiculous and childish, especially considering this argument is happening over the Internet.

We're not discussing it actually, Since Fat Man thought of "knocking people with his cane" (on a powered Wheelchair) We just pointed reality to him, in an attempt for him to drop the meaningless and rather Retarded Threats.

First of all, um... I'm not Fat Man (look at your quotes). Second of all, when you say "We" in your post, I can safely assume you meant you and Fit Man. But Fit Man doesn't exactly contribute to your righteous cause, Brigan, especially in the last 2 sentences of this post.

Fit Man wrote:I could whoop your ass so hard you'd regret trying to start anything with me. I'm just way too fast and agile and strong.

That's just making Fit Man seem like an asshole and he's not going to stop any threats of violence with that. Again, this is the Internet, don't try to act tough because you're just making yourself look like a tool.

The "we" is because unlike Fat Man I read the posts and saw that Fit Man also commented on his ridiculous threats, noone's acting tough, I simply pointed out why those "threats" are retarded.

an old, fat, weak, disabled man threatining about knocking people with a cane, How am I looking tough agaisnt that? Get it?

Sporthater2000 wrote:I know that's a sarcastic comment I'm just trying to end this debate I know you have your own opinion but so do I but what fat man really wants to know is why it's irrelevent, and so do I if you could provide a reason why it's irrelevant then I might understand.

Fit Man wrote:Your sample size is still minuscule, Fat Man. 4 schools out of how many in the United States? At the high school I went to, the jocks never bullied anybody. And I'm not saying because I was a jock myself; I wasn't one. Unless you count a Cross Country runner as a "jock".

Your pictures are actually pretty amusing but factually false. Working out more doesn't inversely affect your brain.

You continue to talk about all these people who have fucked with your life. You fail to show, however, how sports are the CAUSE of this problem. Sure, these people may play sports. But that's only correlation. Correlation does not equate to causation. Show how sports has CAUSED people to mess with your life.

You call yourself intellectually superior to others here, but I fail to see you showing it. The things you've said are some of the most insanely idiotic things that I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that can be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read your posts. I award you no respect, and may God have mercy on your soul.

That might give you an small idea.

Again read the Thread.

Brigan wrote:The "we" is because unlike Fat Man I read the posts and saw that Fit Man also commented on his ridiculous threats, noone's acting tough, I simply pointed out why those "threats" are retarded.

an old, fat, weak, disabled man threatining about knocking people with a cane, How am I looking tough agaisnt that? Get it?

I wasn't saying you're acting tough, I'm saying Fit Man was. It was completely unnecessary for him to say that he's too fast and agile and strong.

HugeFanOfBadReligion wrote:

Brigan wrote:The "we" is because unlike Fat Man I read the posts and saw that Fit Man also commented on his ridiculous threats, noone's acting tough, I simply pointed out why those "threats" are retarded.

an old, fat, weak, disabled man threatining about knocking people with a cane, How am I looking tough agaisnt that? Get it?

I wasn't saying you're acting tough, I'm saying Fit Man was. It was completely unnecessary for him to say that he's too fast and agile and strong.

Not really, Instead of calling him Old, Disabled like I did, he just mentioned he's faster than Fat Man, But that's my comprehension, we'll have to hear it from him.

Brigan wrote:Not really, Instead of calling him Old, Disabled like I did, he just mentioned he's faster than Fat Man, But that's my comprehension, we'll have to hear it from him.

He didn't say he was faster or more agile or stronger than Fat Man, he said he was too fast, too agile, too strong. It was unnecessary, and he had already made his point that a fight between the two wouldn't turn out as Fat Man said it would, so he didn't need to add that last sentence. And when we do "hear it from him", even if he says that he wasn't trying to act tough, that doesn't mean shit. I don't find it difficult to imagine that he wouldn't admit to it.

HugeFanOfBadReligion wrote:

Brigan wrote:Not really, Instead of calling him Old, Disabled like I did, he just mentioned he's faster than Fat Man, But that's my comprehension, we'll have to hear it from him.

He didn't say he was faster or more agile or stronger than Fat Man, he said he was too fast, too agile, too strong. It was unnecessary, and he had already made his point that a fight between the two wouldn't turn out as Fat Man said it would, so he didn't need to add that last sentence. And when we do "hear it from him", even if he says that he wasn't trying to act tough, that doesn't mean shit. I don't find it difficult to imagine that he wouldn't admit to it.

It was unnecessary to begin with the fight shit, If you ask me

OK, It's going to take me some time to type up my response to each of your points.

I will reply in Bold green text.

I'm going to try to address each point in this discussion, but I can't really guarantee how polite or respectful I'll be.

Fit Man wrote:Fat Man, quit playing the victim. You continue to mock other people for their beliefs, such as Christianity. Now, I am not religious at all but I still respect other people if they choose to follow religion. Earl believes in God, but I don't think he's a "Christ-tard" or whatever you will say. Earl seems to be your only friend on this forum, yet you continue to mock and ridicule a belief which obviously means a lot to him. You WILL NOT be able to have friends if you continue to act this way. You just won't.

OK, when I refer to "Christards" or Funny-mentalists" I'm not referring to ALL Christians. Copernicus, Galileo, Johannes Kepler, and Isaak Newton were Christians. Copernicus and Galileo were Catholics, and Johannes Kepler and Isaak Newton were Lutherans. No, when I talk about "Christard Funny-mentalists", I'm referring to certain Republicans (Retardicans) who would like to see Creationism inserted into school science textbooks.

OK, now Earl understands this, because in the past I have clarified this, so he knows that I'm not referring to him. We have some differences of opinion. He doesn't believe in evolution, while I do, but he does agree with me that Creationism should not be inserted into science textbooks, that science and religion should be separate endeavors.

One time, a few months ago, Earl asked me to define "Christard" and I said that when I say, "Christard" I'm NOT referring to ALL Christians, but that I'm only referring to people like Pat Robertson with his 700 Club, or Jerry Falwell (now deceased thank goodness) or certain members of the Republican (Retardican) party. OK?

Why don't you actually address what me and Brigan have to say instead of complaining about what happened in your past? Like Brigan has said, it is NOT relevant. You're not going to gain much sympathy by the way you are carrying yourself. Be respectful with how you speak, and you will get respect back. It's really that simple.

Well, if I recall correctly, when you registered as a new member of these forums, the first thing you did was to devote a topic entirely to me, and you come in here calling me a worthless fat fuck, a disgrace to humanity, and that I deserved the bullying I got in school, before knowing the facts.

So, I had to speak out in my defense with the following facts:

1.) When I was in grade school, I was not fat yet, I was 13 years old when I was starting to become overweight.

2.) I was no good at sports, not because I was a "fact fuck" but because of a crippled up left knee, the result of a car accident before I started school, and as a result, I was unable to run and walked with a limp.

3.) You called me a disgrace to humanity, just because I'm fat, and no good at sports, but the fact was, I was passing all my other academic classes, and PE was the only class I was failing.

Yeah, I know, I'm repeating myself here.

But these are NOT irrelevant to the debate, because you come in here making accusations, so I had to speak out in my defense.

Oh! But to speak out in one's defense when being accused, that's being irrelevant! Eh?

That is not how court trials are conducted. That is how a witch hunt is conducted.

So, my speaking out in my defense, you guys call that irreverent!!!

Sorry, but the accused still has a right to speak out in his defense, unless this isn't the USA anymore but Nazi Germany!

One of your main arguments is that you believe athletes are intellectually inferior to all others. You refuse to address one of the points I have brought up to refute this, which was that the strategy in baseball can be very mentally stimulating and is very similar to a chess match. Instead of addressing this point, you responded in big angry letters something along the lines of "I DONT GIVE A SHIT".

Oh, come on now!!!

Did you really expect me to address that particular point, to discuss the theories and the skills and strategies of baseball, to have a nice discussion on the strategy of baseball after you had come in here calling me a WORTHLESS FAT FUCK AND A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY???

YEAH RIGHT!!!

HEY FAT MAN! YOU'RE JUST A WORTHLESS FAT FUCK AND A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY!

OK, now let's discuss the price of tea in China.

Sorry Jimbo Bubbah Booey! But it doesn't work that way with me.

YA GOT THAT???

You see, you need to respond to the points we bring up. Instead of addressing such valid points that athletes aren't "brain dead", as you would say, you just complain and complain on and on about your past. How about you try and refute my point that the strategy in baseball, as well as any sport, is mentally stimulating? I WILL concede that you made an attempt at trying to refute my argument that sports are excellent for the economy, but you ultimately failed in that attempt. It's clear that sports are a great source of revenue.

Oh yes indeed! Sports is a great source of revenue for the owners of the teams, the athletes, and some of the local business.

But how about asking the people in a residential area in the Dallas Fort Worth region who were displaced from their homes a couple of years ago, then their homes were cleared away with bulldozers to make room for a new sports arena and parking lot around said arena. Sure, they were paid for their homes, but the amount of compensation was less than the initial value of their homes.

Also, some of the residents had made improvements in their homes that should have increase their property value.

And no, the removal of the homes was NOT a slum clearance project!

And finally, the people who were displaced from their homes could not afford to buy new houses, and many had to move into smaller apartments.

So, I would like you to tell the people who were displaced from their homes how sports is great source of revenue. You would probably be modeling the latest fashions in Tar & Feather-ware after that!

Also, I'm really not in the mood to discuss the strategy of baseball, or any sport, after being called a . . . . .

. . . WORTHLESS FAT FUCK AND A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY!

Sorry, but I don't find sports to be mentally stimulating in anyway. You will never convince me of that. You would have better luck trying to convince me that the moon is made of green cheese! To me, sports are all boring! I don't find sports mentally stimulating at all.

If you find sports oh so fascinating and mentally stimulating, than all I have to say to that is . . .

. . . little things please little minds!

Also, I'm willing to bet that most professional athletes have a higher intelligence quotient than yourself. Many of them go to college and attain degrees before they enter the world of professional sports. Do you have a college degree yourself? I suppose that all these athletes should be more respected than yourself because they pursued higher education and you did not. These athletes could have went straight into the professional venue, but the majority pursue higher eduction, which I'm willing to bet you did not. Hell, I guess you should respect even ME more than yourself, because I am currently enrolled in a university and am pursuing higher education.

It's very hard to pursue a career or get a degree in anything when being denied a decent education, when being suspended from school every time an incident occurs in the gymnasium. It's very hard, when the schools you go to place a higher emphases on athletics more than academics!

I don't know about the schools you went to. Perhaps you were fortunate enough to attend a decent school, but I was not as fortunate.

I got my education mostly from the public library, and also going to university libraries. And I must add . . . I learned more from reading books from the libraries that I ever could in school, especially since the schools I had the misfortune to attend didn't teach jack-shit. Yeah, like playing Charades in English literature class or watching cartoons in science class, because the teacher was too busy coaching a football team!

Now, of course you don't respect me. I can tell just by the way you act. I just think you need to rethink who's good for society and who isn't, because you clearly have a distorted view of the world, as I have explicitly shown here.

Yeah, I guess I'm not good for society. Lets' go over some of my character flaws.

1.) Well, I learned how to read before I stared school, and was able to read at the adult level when I was only in the third grade.

2.) When I was 13 years old, I scored 150 points on a standard IQ test.

3.) Science was my favorite subject, especially Astronomy.

4.) I enjoyed doing oil paintings.

5.) I was unable to participate in sports because of a crippled up left leg, the result of a car accident.

6.) I didn't care for sports anyway.

Yeah! Obvious corrector flaws. I'm no good for society!

Now, if I were able to score touchdowns or put a ball through a hoop, then I would be good for society.

But as it is, I'm worthless. I'm so fucking worthless I was always getting thrown out of school because I was no good at sports.

So, I guess it's the human trash heap for me.

In your response, Fat Man, DO NOT play the victim card and bring up your past. We are all aware of it and it does not need to be repeated. We know you were picked on by jocks, and we know that's why you hate them. Try and address my points which explain that not all people who play sports are bad people, and that they can actually be productive members of society.

Oh yes! The PE coach who had me suspended for failing to climb a rope, a very productive member of society he was. Yeah, like, we gotta get rid of the kids who are only good in science and math, and focus our attention on the more athletic kids. Very productive move on his part. Uh huh!

I could go on and on, but then again, I'm only bringing up my past. Sorry about that!

OK, I really don't know, if not all people who are into sports are either good or bad people. Sorry, I really don't know.

I suppose that there may be some good PE coaches who do not condone bullying of the nonathletic students. But I personally have never had the good fortune to know any.

Sorry, but every PE instructor I had in the schools I went to were all ASSHOLES!!!

And I suppose, that not all athletes are brain-dead morons. But I really don't know that either, because I have never met and athlete who was either not a bully or a brain-dead moron, or who wasn't both.

But my perception of PE coaches and athletes is based on my own experience.

Remember Fat Man, be civil in your response. Your angry language only deteriorates the discussion and leads to nowhere. Bring EVIDENCE that all athletes are bad and that sports are going to be the downfall of society.

Oh! You really expect me to be civil with you, after you first came in here and called me a . . . . .

WORTHLESS FAT FUCK AND A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY!

Do you really expect me to make nice to you?

YOU CAN VERY WELL FUCKING FORGET IT!!!

Brigan wrote:It was unnecessary to begin with the fight shit, If you ask me

I agree with you there, which you could also find out by reading the post of mine which you first responded to. That's why I'm saying this discussion of physical fighting needs to end.

Fat Man, you are just spewing out diarrhea out of the mouth and you really haven't brought up anything new. The only new thing you really brought up was your clarification of the word "Christard" and the fact that you scored a "150 IQ"


All I really have to say to you is that you clearly aren't showing any evidence of this mighty IQ. You are just showing stupidity with every single thing you say.

MAYBE you do have a 150 IQ. But your hatred is clouding your judgement to make any rational though. As a result of your hatred, you are just blurting out things that make absolutely no sense to anybody except for you in your own mind. If you really do have a 150 IQ, show it.

Everything else you've said, from being denied education to the houses in Dallas-Forth Worth to you liking astronomy has already been mentioned. Bring new things to the table, buddy.

Also, I would like a thank you from you, as a tax paying citizen, for the money you are receiving from the government so you can sit on your ass and complain on the internet. And thank every other working US citizen while you're at it. Also, thank SPORTS for the tax revenue they bring in. Yup! SPORTS ARE HELPING PAY FOR YOUR BENEFITS, FATTY. How does that make you feel?

One more thing I'd like to add: we all have to deal with bullshit in our lives, to varying degrees. You act like you're the only person in the entire world to deal with such things. Quit playing the victim, because everybody in the forum has their own personal problems to deal with. It's how you deal with your problems that sets you apart from others. Not the problems that you deal with.

Bad Religion: All I was stating in that scenario was that it was absolutely ridiculous that a feeble, disabled, weak, old man would threaten to use his cane to break the jaw of a young man who's in good shape. So, I responded that I'm too strong and too fast for him to do anything to me, and that he'd regret trying anything.

I also thought it was funny that HE was the one threatening violence, and the he points out that one of the reasons why sports are bad is because they promote violence.

Hypocrite, much? I'd say so.

[b][color=#FF00FF]Fit Shit[/color][/b] wrote:Bad Religion: All I was stating in that scenario was that it was absolutely ridiculous that a feeble, disabled, weak, old man would threaten to use his cane to break the jaw of a young man who's in good shape. So, I responded that I'm too strong and too fast for him to do anything to me, and that he'd regret trying anything.

I also thought it was funny that HE was the one threatening violence, and the he points out that one of the reasons why sports are bad is because they promote violence.

Hypocrite, much? I'd say so.

No, I feel perfectly justified in wanting to smack you across the jaw with a cane and knocking out your teeth.

I was subjected to physical violence during my life, as I had mentioned in so many previous posts in these topics.

So, excuse me if I feel justified in wanting to strike back.

And I do swing a pretty mean cane!

[b][color=#FF00FF]Fit Shit[/color][/b] wrote:Also, I would like a thank you from you, as a tax paying citizen, for the money you are receiving from the government so you can sit on your ass and complain on the internet. And thank every other working US citizen while you're at it. Also, thank SPORTS for the tax revenue they bring in. Yup! SPORTS ARE HELPING PAY FOR YOUR BENEFITS, FATTY. How does that make you feel?

I only get a lousy $650 dollars per month disability pension.

My parents helped me to apply for disability when I was about to turn 18.

As I have mentioned before, in some other topics, when I was 17 years old, I had an emotional and mental break down, and spent three weeks in the state mental hospital, were patients were often beaten by the ward attendants.

Yeah! Those places are often worse than prisons!

That was where I was beaten and raped by an older man.

When I came home, I came out worse than I was before going in. Emotionally I was a wreck, and I became more withdrawn. I stayed in my room most of the time, and didn't feel like going out.

I was in no condition to go out looking for a job, so, may parents helped me to apply for an SSI disability pension.

Actually, you sports fans should be very happy that I'm only getting a lousy $650 dollars per month.

I mean, like, really!!!!

Just think . . . . . if I had been able to successfully finish a college degree in Astronomy or Physics, and have either gone on to become a college professor teaching either Physic or Astronomy, I would now be making somewhere between $80,000 to $100,000 dollars per year.

That's what I would have to be paid now, instead of a lousy $650 dollars per month.

Of course, a professional football player makes millions of dollars every year just for chasing a ball, but I would have been perfectly happy making only $80,000 to $100,000 dollars per year, doing what I would have loved doing most, teaching science courses in a university.

Yeah, $80,000 to $100,000 dollars per year is nothing compared to what a football player makes, but it's certainly better than the lousy little $650 dollars per month in chump change that I'm getting now.

So, by being bullied around, until having a mental breakdown, and then getting beaten and raped, society actually saves a lot of money by giving me my little bit chump change each month.

That $80,000 to $100,000 dollars that I might have been making now, well . . . that goes to buying a brand new Hummer to be given away free to some professional football player.

So, just think! By getting beaten and raped, I have actually contributed more to society. So, the money that I would have otherwise have been making, well . . . over the years that I have been living on a small disability pension, I have actually bought at least 20 to 30 hummers to be given away free to professional rapists!

Now, isn't that nice!

So, you should be thanking me!

Come on! I want an acknowledgement of thanks for having been used and a human punching bag, and a human tackling dummy for the jocks to practice on.

I actually worked very hard, because being a human punching bag, and a human tackling dummy is the hardest work there is.

And it not voluntary, and you don't get paid for it!

So, come on and give me an acknowledgement of thanks!

Instead of calling me a worthless fat fuck, you should be licking my boots and thanking me.

And you may also . . . . .

KISS MY FAT ASS!

I have a question for Fit Man (and this question has nothing to do with Fat Man): What do you think of people who question the masculinity of nonathletic boys who have no interest in sports?

Here's another question for you: Where do you stand, morally speaking, on the issue of bullying in the schools? Do nonathletic kids deserve to be bullied?

You have pointed out that Fat Man has some wrong attitudes. I certainly don't agree with his broad stereotyping and the hateful comments he makes; but I'm wondering if you ever looked up any of Samdaman's posts, whose comments are indicative of a high-school football player who had (and most likely still has, as a university player today) attitudes that are bad, indeed. Do you recognize that some individual athletes and coaches have bad attitudes, especially regarding issues such as not expecting athletes to adhere to a code of honorable conduct off the playing field?

Do you believe, as a high-school coach was quoted as saying on a webpage that had been set up by a former high-school football player, "Athletes are a better class of people than nonathletes"?

And finally: Are you able to separate the ball game from the culture, especially concerning the issue of what impact the culture may have in the lives of those who aren't interested in sports or those who may have been hurt in some way by individual athletes; or do you, like so many sports fans, seem incapable of separating the two and therefore construe any criticism of the culture to be an attack upon the game?




I also have a question for Brigan: Why do you believe that Sporthater2000 is a troll? (... well, questions) How can you tell?





These questions are sincere and certainly are not intended to be confrontational or disrespectful.