International I Hate Sports Club

No one likes P.E. aside the jock dumb asses... oh wait... P.E. =/= sports... but regardless ban P.E. because jocks don't do P.E. and neither do regular people!

For generations in this country nonathletic boys required to take sports-centered P.E. classes have felt that they don't belong. For good reason.

Earl wrote:For generations in this country nonathletic boys required to take sports-centered P.E. classes have felt that they don't belong. For good reason.

Hi Earl,
People make the term "non-athletic" sound bad, to me it sounds good like "non-moronic" or "non-diseased" or non-knuckle dragging, know what I mean?

Greencom

Hi Greencom,

I know what you mean. Iâ??m sorry that both â??athleteâ? and â??nonathleteâ? have been given negative connotations. There are men (as well as women) with athletic backgrounds who are trying to reform P.E. Nonathletic boys should not be required to take P.E. classes that are taught by coaches who look down on them and even question their masculinity (as if homosexual men have never participated in sports, which clearly and undeniably is a fallacy). If you havenâ??t already, check the link that I posted in the topic â??Bullying.â? My wife taught math classes at the local high school for about ten years. She never looked down on any students in her classes who were having trouble with math (unless they were being troublemakers, of course). (Iâ??m sure that there are a few, but I personally have not heard of any math teachers who maliciously abuse students who have trouble with math.) There donâ??t seem to be many boysâ?? P.E. coaches who have the same attitude towards the nonathletic boys who are placed in their charge. This is an instance in which sports are forced upon others (nonathletic kids). Iâ??m convinced that for generations traditional sports-centered P.E., along with the preferential treatment that has been and is still often given to high-school athletes in certain sports, has been the source of a lot of bullying. The sports themselves do not cause the bullying, but the culture that is associated with them does. The people who truly stand in the way of reforming P.E. are not kids such as Sergey who want to ban P.E., but are those coaches who really care far more about sports than they do about helping nonathletic kids learn how they can be healthier.

Earl wrote:Hi Greencom,

I know what you mean. Iâ??m sorry that both â??athleteâ? and â??nonathleteâ? have been given negative connotations. There are men (as well as women) with athletic backgrounds who are trying to reform P.E. Nonathletic boys should not be required to take P.E. classes that are taught by coaches who look down on them and even question their masculinity (as if homosexual men have never participated in sports, which clearly and undeniably is a fallacy). If you havenâ??t already, check the link that I posted in the topic â??Bullying.â? My wife taught math classes at the local high school for about ten years. She never looked down on any students in her classes who were having trouble with math (unless they were being troublemakers, of course). (Iâ??m sure that there are a few, but I personally have not heard of any math teachers who maliciously abuse students who have trouble with math.) There donâ??t seem to be many boysâ?? P.E. coaches who have the same attitude towards the nonathletic boys who are placed in their charge. This is an instance in which sports are forced upon others (nonathletic kids). Iâ??m convinced that for generations traditional sports-centered P.E., along with the preferential treatment that has been and is still often given to high-school athletes in certain sports, has been the source of a lot of bullying. The sports themselves do not cause the bullying, but the culture that is associated with them does. The people who truly stand in the way of reforming P.E. are not kids such as Sergey who want to ban P.E., but are those coaches who really care far more about sports than they do about helping nonathletic kids learn how they can be healthier.

Well the P.E. in my school made us do exercises, like stretching, then play sports for the rest of the time in P.E.! Then there was one day where it was windy and cold that the coach said we don't have to do the exercises, but we had to run around with a soccer ball? Yeah apparently that's better! Then we did basketball for the rest of the damn part of the day. From what I've seen coaches don't want people to do P.E. yet they want them to play sports as soon as possible! It isn't hurting anybody (sadly not even the jocks ).

Unfortunately, the movement to reform P.E. just started a few years ago. Forcing nonathletic kids to play sports is not the way to get them into shape. That will only teach them to hate sports and resent jocks, quite understandably. I know that those of you who regularly read the posts in this forum are probably sick and tired of hearing me promote this innovative program; but PE4Life (or possibly some variant thereof), which does not rely on competitive team sports and gives the students a range of different choices, really is the best way to go. As I've already said repeatedly, traditional sports-centered P.E. should be available for athletic kids as an elective, not mandatory for all students. Hard as it may be to believe, a noncompetitive exercise program can be an enjoyable experience. But unless they join a health club, nonathletic kids subjected to the traditional approach of P.E. will never learn that.

Wait what the hell? So academics not being mandatory to idiot athletes is well... ignored, but the thought of banning P.E. is... argued over?

Sergey, don't worry. Hey, I'm still on your side. I wasn't arguing with you about P.E., and the issue of lowering academic standards hadn't even crossed my mind. You're talking to someone who got sick and tired of King Football long before he graduated from high school. So, relax. Okay? Everything's cool.

If you ban PE, you take away the only thing the monkey-boys are good for! Without it, they're useless! How are they to prove themselves if they've not got their beloved balls and bats to play with? They'll just become losers who can't impress anyone. PE should be reformed as mandatory classes can put a lot of stress on nonathletic people but to ban it is to remove the lifeline of many! Perhaps too far...

Hi, Katrin. You probably know what my views about P.E. are already. I think the traditional sports-centered P.E. should be retained as an elective -- notice that I said "elective" -- for the athletic kids and any other students who want to participate in sports. Genuine physical fitness classes that give nonathletic students a choice of physical activity should at least be available. There are, after all, physical fitness enthusiasts who have no interest in sports.

I agree. The nonathletic people are only going to resent and hate the monkey-boys more if they're forced to do rough sports with them and how will that help improve their fitness? I think PE should be made just an optional subject for students - if people want to drop it at 14, they should be able to as some will have no interest in physical activity at all and should be allowed to develop the skills they want which are more likely to help them in a future career.

The generalizations made by you guys and the ignorance that's shown at times is absolutely astounding.

Taking away athletics is taking away the only think Monkey boys are good at? Really? and athletes are the immature ones?

Yes they are.

Well, this is a board where people come to moan at sports so you'll forgive people on here for being a bit ignorant at times. These monkey-boys have been known to give people a hard time in life for not worshipping sports so don't be too shocked to hear people being unfair about them. They're the most ignorant people, regarding themselves as superior to nonathletic kids. I never said all athletes were like that; that's why this select few get branded "monkey-boys".

Polite24 wrote:The generalizations made by you guys and the ignorance that's shown at times is absolutely astounding.

Taking away athletics is taking away the only think Monkey boys are good at? Really? and athletes are the immature ones?

In general, he's right. Sure there's the occasional exception, but, as a rule, people who don't do well in school gravitate to something that they CAN do well: sweat like a frikkin' mule.

It's human nature. Who would want to spend more time in a classroom where we're constantly in last place when we can spend time with coach and BE SOMEBODY (ha ha)?

The coach will teach you the PYRAMID OF GREATNESS! And you can be smart just like the other kids!