International I Hate Sports Club

I have been lurking on this site for a very long time. I debated whether or not to join, because before me stands a group of people who completely understand my disdain and distaste for competitive sports, but who have no problem with exercise and fitness. I've been preaching this stuff for years to those who constitute a quiet vocal minority, but that's the problem...it's always SEEMED like most of us anti-sports types were a vocal minority, so I didn't know if bothering to champion it was worth my while. If for no other reason, I can at least 'blow off some steam' here.

I am not what you would call a closet nerd. And I definitely hate popular and competitive sports. But I am definitely a nerd, I just don't look it. In fact, most of my gym teachers would look at my physique in high school and ask me, "Hey man, why aren't you trying out for the football team? We could use someone 'like you'." This request was highly annoying.

I had a problem with replying my immediate feelings at the time, which were quite simply: "Um, because football is ***king stupid, and I'd rather sit at home doing arts and crafts, playing video games or reading books than get my body injured over and over to the point of becoming a fat crippled mess by the time I'm 40?"

Anyway, I also have other stories similar to the ones I'm reading here, but I will save them for applicable threads.

I do want to start off with more than just an introduction, though, and talk about something that really has my blood boiling to this day. And I will start with a quote from another thread by Skul, which made me think of it.

Skul wrote:And it'll only get worse if sports finds a way to interfere with the most important principles of democracy.

Sports has already done this.

In Dallas, the old Texas Stadium is being done away with and another, obscenely large stadium is being built in Arlington. The local news made very little fuss about it, but this new stadium was put down via Eminent Domain. The thing is, there were so many locations they could have built this obscenity, but nooooo, it had to be built next to Six Flags over Texas, next to the frigging Ballpark in Arlington (Home of the Texas loser Rangers), and to add another kick to the crotch, Eminent Domain was invoked and ousted many, many people from their homes for far less than their homes were worth.

Imagine toiling and slaving away for the place you call home. You may have slaved away for it for 15 years, making it what it is today. You love your neighborhood, school system, public facilities, etc. You grind away more years building a family. Planting a life. Heck, you may even be one of the few fortunates wealthy enough to afford a swimming pool, and you just had it put in last year.

Then one day out of the blue, you receive a condemnation notice. Just think about that for a minute. Who wouldn't be just a tad bit pissed? But to add insult to injury, you find out that your home is going to meet the business end of a bulldozer to make way for a structure that is NOT public. (The term 'public' refers to a structure that contains free access to anyone who wishes to enter it.)

This SPORTS stadium is a private structure. It was built with private dollars. And your home...your castle...is being torn down not even for stadium square footage, but for extra PARKING LOT SPACE.

Eminent Domain does not apply to structures that are private, or, should I say...it SHOULDN'T.

I feel really awful for these people. History has shown you rarely ever get a decent market price for your home anyway. But this goes deeper than the 'voters' (people who are not affected by this), deeper than the greed that has been pushing for this new stadium for years, deeper than just having to sell your house.

Home is home. To be forced off of your land for something like this is wrong. My best friend (who is a sports nut) told me, "Bah...argue with the voters about this. Live someplace else if you don't like it." This country has the ability to change a law if we don't like it. And I, for one, hoped the public outcry over this kind of unacceptable land theft would come to a head and force new Federal laws to be passed. To be so short-sighted of something like this is foolish.

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court ruled in a similar case that Eminent Domain could be used for private structures.

Okay, so I'm stuck arguing with the voters if I go by my best friend's rationale. The voters are sports fans, obviously, that's mark #1 against them in my book. What would I say to one of these mindless sheepie voters, I wonder...What I want to know is how did you consciously go to the voting booth and vote to disjoint an entire neighborhood of innocent people? Did you even know you were voting to do this, or did Cowboys owner Jerry Jones leave that part out of the contract when he presented it to you? Or regardless of whether you knew or not, how do you feel about it now? I am sure you don't think about it, when you're scarfing down a nasty ass stadium hot dog or yelling drunkenly for another beer while you assist in making that stadium reek of one long constant beer fart, yelling and screaming at the top of your lungs like an assh--

*sigh* You get the point.

To all the non-sports fans, I thank you for reading. Feel free to comment if you feel I'm a bit too passionate about this.

I challenge any sports fan reading this forum to come forward and contest and attempt to convince me just why this was a good idea. And if you are a Dallas Cowboys fan, all the more merrier. I dare you to try and debate me on how your precious sporting habits makes things like this a good, moral decision for the community of Arlington (which by the way is a suburb between Dallas and Fort Worth).

You definetly aren't over doing it with your post.You actually were right about everything that you said. You shouldn't have to leave your home just because of some stupid stadium that you guys don't even need. Those dumb sports fans are so stupid that they will actually be happy if they have to leave their home because they are getting a new sports stadium. Anyway welcome to the forums Millhouse!

Welcome to the forums Millhouse. It is absolutely horrible that you were kicked out of your house, just so a stadium car park can be built, you should complain to your local goverment or start a petition to stop this. How can the company get away with doing this? I hope you are able to escape that madness.

Lewis wrote:Welcome to the forums Millhouse. It is absolutely horrible that you were kicked out of your house, just so a stadium car park can be built, you should complain to your local goverment or start a petition to stop this. How can the company get away with doing this? I hope you are able to escape that madness.

Thanks to you both for the welcome.

I actually wasn't one of the people kicked out of my home. But I did live in the DFW area while this was going on. I still feel horrible for these people. The local news media did a small story on it, and of course, no one cared, because the local news media devotes 1/3rd of its programming time to sports.

I meant to point out that this happened awhile back, and the stadium is almost completed. You can even go on the stupid stadium's website and follow its progress. Everytime I've bothered to look at it, all I can do is seethe and think about the folks in that neighborhood that had to move.

I wonder how many other people have been or will be displaced from their homes, homes that they OWN, land that they OWN, due to another sports stadium. I'm sure there are other examples of this.

Again, I eagerly await the counter-argument of a sports fan on why they think this was a good idea.

Welcome! I'm sure you'll get no challengers as there's no way to argue that the benefits of that monstrosity will outweigh the bad. I haven't given the issue a lot of thought but in this case at least, I would say that it is morally wrong to steal that land from its rightful owners. I wonder if they could get together and sue the daylights out of the state --Texas. I have a lot of respect for an independent-minded state like Texas but the way they love football is insane! They NEED a good suing!

Good morning Millhouse.

And welcome to Sports Suck!

Yes indeed. This is an outrage! People being displaced from their homes, and for what! A stupid sports arena, a playground for retarded monkey-boys!

America is not a Democracy anymore! It has become just another third-world Banana Republic ruled my dumb-ass monkey-boys.

Oh, and don't be a wuss about using certain words. Instead of ***king or assh-- go ahead and come right out and say it.

These fucking monkey-boys and the sports fans are fucking assholes!!!

We do a lot of cussing and swearing here, as you will see by my signature at the bottom of my messages. And if you read some of my forum posts, you will notice that I can be a real bitch! I have even called myself a big fat bitch!

After reading about how people are being displace from their homes just to build a stadium, I'm so pissed off now that my cup of coffee is boiling as I hold it in my hand!

I would like to say more, but I'm so pissed off now, just thinking about how people who have worked hard all of their lives, and investing in their homes, are being force to give up their homes for less than they had paid for them.

This just so absolutely sucks out loud!!!

Anyway, welcome to Sports Suck!

And if you ever need a soft shoulder to cry on, the Fat Man is here!

Welcome...excellent post. I agree with everything you said so probably can't add too much. All I can say is: Wow...and people here get upset if a road widening takes up a sliver of their yard! They have no idea how good they have it in comparison.

RaleighRob wrote:Welcome...excellent post. I agree with everything you said so probably can't add too much. All I can say is: Wow...and people here get upset if a road widening takes up a sliver of their yard! They have no idea how good they have it in comparison.

Thanks again for the additional welcomes.

And RaleighRob, you would be surprised how quickly and quietly the homeowners being ousted was swept under the rug with the local media. You can bet your ass that local politicians and investors who have money tied up in this project probably had something to do with that. I believe this stadium cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 billion I think?

Also, the neighborhood was claimed in one news article to be 'run down', which was a complete crock of shit. They showed the homeowners being interviewed the one time I saw a report on them, and that neighborhood was far from what I would classify as 'ghetto', and the residents looked like normal, hard working people to me.

But again, swept under the rug.

Here's one of the original articles on it.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archiv ... s_stadium/

Honestly, to me, even the media seemed very 'ho-hum' about it. Not a coincidence there, either.

By the way, those homes were worth FAR more than the $22,500 they were being offered to 'move out quickly'. Fair market value, my ass.

I wish I could inflict a guilt trip on every single person that walks through the doors of that stadium, but honestly, the sad part is, they won't give a shit.

This all reminds of a time some years ago here in El Paso, Texas where I live.

There had been some talk about building a new sports arena in the downtown area, but in order to build the new sports arena, they would have to tare down the public library and The Golden Age Senior Citizen Center.

I had posted something about this on some sports forum at the time, and the reaction I got was, that public libraries and senior citizen centers will become a thing of the past, and end up in the trash-bin of history.

My response to that was . . .

YEAH RIGHT!

Like in the future, the life expectancy of men and women will only be about 50 years at the most, because we're all going to be football players or cheerleaders, and we'll all be burned out and over the hill by the time we're 40 and die in or 50s, and nobody will know how to read and write.

Oh yes indeed! Nice future you have planed for us!

Well, after I said that, I was banned from the forum! Gee! I wonder why!

Anyway, that was over 10 years ago, and of course, enough people got together, and we said no to the new sports arena.

So, we got to keep the library. In fact, they have even added on to it in recent years.

Now, I would like to challenge Ivy league and Polite24 - AKA - Detroitsportsfan08, these two rabid sports hounds, to come to this topic to support the building of the new stadium in Dallas Texas.

I dare them to come here!

It will be my pleasure to tare them a new one!

^ What kind of idiots would tear down a library and a senior citizen center just for a stupid sports arena? First off libraries are a place for learning and you woud be taking down a place where people learn.And people sure as hell aren't going to be laerning anything at some stupid game. And why would anyone want to take down a senior citizen center for a dumb sports arena that is just wrong plain and simple. And if the senior citizen center where you lived was also a senior citizen home then those idiots would be taking away a home for senior citizens which is just horrible to. It pisses me off so much that some people are so stupid.

sports rox1234 wrote:^ What kind of idiots would tear down a library and a senior citizen center just for a stupid sports arena? First off libraries are a place for learning and you woud be taking down a place where people learn.And people sure as hell aren't going to be laerning anything at some stupid game. And why would anyone want to take down a senior citizen center for a dumb sports arena that is just wrong plain and simple. And if the senior citizen center where you lived was also a senior citizen home then those idiots would be taking away a home for senior citizens which is just horrible to. It pisses me off so much that some people are so stupid.

Sports fans and monkey-boys don't give a flying fuck about anything, except themselves and their stupid sports!

They could care less if people are thrown out of their homes and forced to live in the streets surrounding their precious spots arenas.

In fact, these monkey-boy athletes don't even give a shit about their fans!

Some of the people displaced form their homes when the new stadium was built in Dallas, may have even been football fans themselves, but I now have doubts if they are still sports fans anymore after that!

Just think. Someone who had been a Dallas Cowboy fan for a number of years, and has faithfully watched his favorite team on TV, and then one day, he is being displaced from his home because of a new sports arena built so his favorite team can play there.

Imagine how this Dallas Cowboys fan must feel when his very own favorite team has booted him out of his own home, and he gets less money, far less money, than the actual value of his home!

I imagine that he would feel betrayed by his own favorite football team, and will be a Cowboy fan NO MORE after that.

He may even come to hate football after being booted out of his home, and become one of us sports haters!

The best anti-sports person is actually an ex-jock or an ex-sport fan who has been betrayed by a sport he had once loved so much, and has now come to hate.

I have seen this happen before.

I have known people who once loved football, and now hate it with a passion, especially after a sister or daughter had been raped by a monkey boy who got off with just a slap on the wrist, or after being displace from his home to build another new stadium.

Football is going to destroy itself. These jocks and sports fans wonder why so many people hate them, it's their own damn fault. By bullying people around, they have only helped to make their own favorite pastime more and more unpopular.

Here's how it works. It goes something like this . . . . .

Sports Fan : Hey, are you going to watch the big game this evening?

Serious Student: Nah! I'm not interested in sports. I'm going to the library this evening to study, I have an essay I want to work on.

Sports Fan: Oh! So you hate football! What are you? Some kind of faggot or something?

Serious Student: No, I don't actually hate football. I suppose it's OK, it's just that I'm not interested in it. If you like football, that's fine! I have no problem with that. I'm just not interested. OK?

Sports Fan: You're a faggot because you hate football!!! (grabs student by the shoulders and slams him up against a locker, then beats the crap out of him, and knock out some teeth) Take that you faggot!!!

Serious Student: Choke! Cough! Gasp! (spits out a couple of teeth as monkey-boy walks away) I never liked football, but now I hate it!!!

Yeah! That is how these dumb monkey-boys "advertise" how good football is, by beating the crap out of anybody who doesn't like it.

Excellent publicity campaign! Works every time!!!

Fat Man wrote:
The best anti-sports person is actually an ex-jock or an ex-sport fan who has been betrayed by a sport he had once loved so much, and has now come to hate.

I have seen this happen before.

I have known people who once loved football, and now hate it with a passion, especially after a sister or daughter had been raped by a monkey boy who got off with just a slap on the wrist, or after being displace from his home to build another new stadium.

I'm saving details on this for a later post, but you're very correct on this. I used to be one of those people. Once upon a time, when I was 10, determined to outdo my peers and show them that I wasn't afraid of sports, I joined a soccer team for one season. I did it to try and prove something to myself, because my best friend at the time was doing it, and I wanted to spend time playing with him.

Needless to say I hated every rotten lousy minute of it, and I never did it again, but I made it to the end of the season. But at least I knew, by the end of the season, that I was done with sports. The irony? Some kids were playing soccer behind my school, my peers, and I kind of kicked their butts at it when they invited me in for a few plays.

But I still walked away from it, because they were mad at me, and because I thought it was stupid. See, the attitude never ends even when you show a sports fan you've learned something.

I really loved being physically active as a kid, running around and playing. I also loved being a nerd. Apparently, you couldn't do both, but that's kind of off topic.

My only point here is that it can happen as FatMan describes it.

I was also in martial arts later with a different friend, I was in it for body fitness and internal discipline, he was in it to one-up everybody and that made it really unfun for me. He was an asshole, but that's another story altogether, the point is, he had the same attitude as the typical sports fan we divulge in bashing here. And it all came to a head the first day we sparred. He was actually out to make me look like a fool. I suppose we both took our lumps, but he was actually determined to physically harm me. Needless to say we aren't friends anymore, but that's all it takes in a sport, it doesn't even have to be an entire team of soccer players who hate you, or just one jerk off friend in a martial arts class. All it takes is the competitive, overzealous attitude, to ruin it for anyone, or everyone, even those that don't like it.

I still do some of the martial arts forms in the privacy of my own home for stress relief and staying in shape.

This is the thing... I don't think that everyone that can't stand sports is necessarily a sports hater. I personally do not hate sports, I merely find most of the popular ones extremely boring, so I don't indulge in them. Especially watching them. It's the fucking fans' attitudes that start to make me seethe and hate. Where was I going with this, oh yes... I don't think that everyone who hates sports or sports fans necessarily is ignorant of sports, at all, they might even have personal experience.

Most jocks like that one post douchebag Captain America simply assume that we've never touched a football or kicked a soccer ball. Um no, some of us have, multiple times. Some of us might even know how to properly grip a football. We just DONT WANT TO.

Hell, I've had situations where I've walked away from head to head arcade games (and I love video games) because the guy playing against me becomes not only competitive, but has to be a prick about it.

Here's another welcome, belated though it may be: Welcome to this website, Millhouse! I've already read all of the posts you've written today, I believe. You write very well, and I really look forward to reading future posts by you. I discovered this website last December. What really intrigued me was to learn that people who have no use for watching spectator sports are a diverse group. I was particularly struck by how many of the letters were from men who were physical fitness enthusiasts, bodybuilders, and even former athletes. I had stereotyped men who had no interest in sports (which included myself) as sedentary book readers. (Now, there's nothing wrong with being bookish! I wish I had been more studious in high school, not to mention college.) Since July of '07, I've been working at a local 24 Hour Fitness health club on a bodybuilding program. I really enjoy it. The experience that I've had working with personal trainers has been completely different from the dismal PE experience of my boyhood, which only taught me to fear coaches and athlete classmates. I've actually gotten more exercise in a single workout session with a personal trainer than I ever did in a single year of junior-high PE. If I had not been exempted from PE in high school because I was a band student, I probably would have rebelled. Ever since I joined the 24 Hour Fitness, I wondered why I hadn't join a health club until I was 57 years old. The answer occurred to me today. Not only was my boyhood PE experience lousy; but when I took judo lessons from a white former university football player who turned out to be a jerk from the second half of my eight-grade year to the spring of my junior year in high school, I always felt like an outsider in his judo school because, as I later learned from his own big mouth, he had stereotyped me as having homosexual tendencies simply because I was scrawny and withdrawn! (By the way, I'm the happily married father of two children.) Without any solicitation on my part to hear him spout his peculiar views, he told me that he didn't consider nonathletic men to be "real men." Subconsciously I wrongly associated these discouraging experiences with health clubs. I wish I had started pumping iron a lot sooner. Again, I'm really looking forward to your future posts.

Dang Earl, that really sucks. I have worked out a significant about since my freshman year of high school, my PE teachers and the athletes were mostly nice, although coaches can be real dicks. Welcome to the site Millhouse, sorry it's a bit belated, I haven't been on the site lately. I don't think eminent domain law needs to be changed, I think our supreme court needs to stop selling out to corporate interests. Perhaps we need a body of common people that can overturn any court decision, like they had in Ancient Greece, or a Congress with some backbone. Not that I necessarily trust "the people" or Congress anymore than the Supreme Court.

I am still so pissed off over people being displaced from their homes to make room for a new football stadium!

The more I think about this, the angrier I get. I'm still so pissed off, that I'm going to lose a night's sleep tonight just thinking about this.

It is 2:00 AM in the morning here in El Paso, Texas as I'm typing this forum post, and when I'm finish, I shall try to lay down, but I won't be able to sleep. I'll will be tossing and turning in my bed, and pounding my pillow with my fist, and biting down on my wrists, just thinking about this grave injustice to those who had worked hard all of their lives for their homes from which they have been displaced.

I can't understand how sports fans and monkey-boys can be so selfish and greedy that they are willing to see people booted out of their homes and into the streets, just for the sake of FOOLS BALL!!!

I can't even imagine, how the most rabid of sports-hounds, could possibly be in favor of booting people out of their homes, just for a sport arena.

Henceforth, I hereby issue a challenge, to Ivy league and Polite24 - AKA - Detroitsportsfan08, and to all the other sports bores here on this forum, to come into this topic, saying how you support the building of the new stadium, and the displacement of hard working people from their homes for the sake of your precious sports arena!

COME HITHER, ALL YE SPORTS BORES!

I DARE YOU TO SAY HOW MUCH YOU FAVOR PEOPLE LOSING THEIR HOMES TO MAKE ROOM FOR A NEW FOOTBALL STADIUM!!!

I DARE YOU! I DOUBLE DARE YOU! I TRIPLE DARE YOU!


ELSE, COME HITHER, AND PROVE ME WRONG!

The Fat Man awaits your arrival into this topic.

Good night.