International I Hate Sports Club

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:34 pm**

As many of you might have read in another post, I actually have had moderate exposure to sports at a young age and sports at an adult age. I have a few tales to tell, but I'm not going to share them all in one post, it would take too long to write and even longer for you to read.

I was on a private little league soccer team when I was 9. I joined because my next door neighbor, who was my age and whom I had been playing with for years since I was 5, was doing it. Not knowing the rules of what peer pressure could get you into, I let him convince me that we could both each have a trophy at the end of the season if we won.

It wound up being nonsense. The coach was incompetent, and a drunk, he made me a full back (which for those who are not familiar with soccer, fullbacks are the defensive positions on the field that prevent the front line guys from the other team from reaching the goalie...insert your yawn here at the explanation

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Being a fullback was pretty damn boring. Half of the time, the ball wasn't on your side of the field, the forwards were trying to get it to the goal. But when the ball did come your way, the forwards and half backs got in your way, not really allowing you to try and do much.

So, half the time when the ball was on the other side of the field and I had nothing to do, my mind wandered. It wandered, of course, to the things I loved to do at home. The things I'd rather be doing than freezing my ass off early on a Saturday morning playing with these kids I barely knew. Like riding my bike. Or building a model ship. Playing against my Dad's computer chess game. Playing outside with my friends.

These games went on for about four months, it was a short season, thankfully. We lost every game we played. Sometimes I was blamed for a lost play, sometimes I wasn't. The only game we didn't lose, we tied, and in that game the coach kept me on the sidelines the entire game. I'm quite sure without any doubt, that these very same parents were and are the same types that will yell at a sporting event on TV.

I remember I used to try and get the team to just joke around that we should call ourselves the losing team, because I had humility, and suggested that we might as well accept that. Even as a kid, I knew that if we had nothing to lose by thinking that, then we might at least enjoy the season and the game better. Well, one of the observational parents, a mother, overheard me say that one day, and ripped my head off for promoting such an idea.

This was about midway through the season. I decided, then and there, that it wasn't even about whether we won or lost anymore, that I simply couldn't cope with the horrible attitudes of others in little league sports. I've stated this before in one or two posts... the overzealous types always manage to make something competitive extremely unfun. They have the ability to suck the fun right out of it.

There were other parents who acted similarly, though they were more stereotypical in nature. Standing by the sidelines, yelling every verbal command to their kid to get the winning play, and screaming their discontent when any kid screwed up (including at me).

My father, who did not raise me on sports (except the annoying NASCAR), made me finish the season, though. He has a similar viewpoint as I do when it comes to sports, but he was determined to teach me a lesson that time. The lesson was, "Hey, I paid for this so you could play. You're going to finish what you started, because I can't get my money back."

Ah, the lessons we are taught as children.

Epilogue: I went back to school after the season was over, and there were about 5 kids kicking the ball around from the school soccer team, and they invited me in (more like teased me in, "Hey, I bet you can't take the ball away from me.").

Immediately I realized that I did actually learn how to play soccer during that time, and oddly, I don't know what our P.E. coach had been teaching the kids at school, but I had actually learned a skill, because I was taking the ball away from these losers left and right. After about 15 minutes of this, a few of them were starting to get mad at me, and told me to just go away, and a few threatened to kick my ass if I didn't. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Same exact kids that would tease me in P.E. One would think that I would have become confident at that point that I could play sports, and keep going with soccer after that.

But I didn't keep going, nor did I ever join another little league team again, nor was I even remotely interested. Yet, I WAS confident in my soccer abilities after that, although I still hated sports more than ever, and realized that confidence or not, my hatred of a thing made that thing worthless to me.

Again, why? Attitude. Intolerance. Zealotry.

It's being taught to our children to this day, when they are taught professional sports in P.E.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:41 pm**

Millhouse, I like the title of your new Topic. (â??Welcome, boils and ghouls!â? Just kidding.) I always look forward to reading your posts and the perspective they bring to this website. Iâ??m very interested in your background in sports. When I was a teenager, an incompetent psychologist, whom my parents took me to because he had a good reputation (which he clearly did not deserve), sent me to a particular judo instructor to take judo lessons. I was in his judo class for three years until I quit, during which time I was promoted to brown belt (a rank that I felt I did not deserve). Unfortunately, the instructor -- who was white, not Asian -- condoned bullying, and had rather warped views about masculinity. Iâ??m looking forward to more of your Tales from the Sports Crypt.

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:52 am**

Ah yes! Tales From The Sports Crypt!

Zombie Soccer Dad

Zombie Soccer Kid

More Sports Zombies

Zombie Kickball

Another Kickball Zombie

A Zombie Football Player

Another Zombie Football Player Comin' At Ya!!!

And of course, I'm your host, The Keeper Of The Sports Crypt.

Posted: **Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:42 am**

There's a rather interesting essay at the following website:

http://www.mrcforchange.org/leavingtheteam.html

Posted: **Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:57 am**

I just found another excellent essay at the following website:

http://marshallbrain.com/geek.htm

Polite24, you really need to read this.

Posted: **Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:37 am**

Earl wrote:I just found another excellent essay at the following website:

http://marshallbrain.com/geek.htm

Polite24, you really need to read this.

Hey Earl!

I seriously doubt if Polite24 is even going to bother to click on the link you provided.

So, I will bring the entire article into the forum by copying and pasting it here for all to see, that way, we will know what it is that Polite24 is much too afraid to read.

And if he should enter into this forum topic and sees this article, he will naturally have to respond, and if he dose not respond, then we will all know exactly what a moral coward he is.

So, either way the trap is set, and by either responding with his usual moronic rhetoric, or by not responding at all, he will have euphemistically dropped his pants in public and effectively shown us what he's really got! Which is probably nothing, since morally he has no balls!

Anyway . . . . . . .

On Telling My Son That He Is A Geek

by Marshall Brain

I have put "the talk" off for as long as I have been able, because it is going to be an uncomfortable conversation. It will be far harder than the "birds and bees" conversation that parents dread. The "birds and bees" conversation, by the way, was fairly painless with my son. He's read enough science books and seen enough stuff on Discovery Channel to know most everything he needs to know about the mechanics of sex. The depth of his knowledge, from a clinical perspective, was impressive when we discussed the topic.

But this next conversation will, I fear, be near impossible for him to understand, and even harder to explain. I am going to have to tell him that he is a geek. And because he is a geek, he is about to be sentenced to seven years of unmitigated hell at the hands of his peers.

The thing that is forcing "the talk" is a question he asked last week. He asked it in the same way he might ask why a gasoline engine has a spark plug while a Diesel engine does not. He's expecting to hear a simple, logical, reasonable answer that tells him something new about the world we live in. But the question he asked has no simple, logical or reasonable answer. Instead, his question probes one of the darkest, and frankly the most repulsive, aspects of the human condition.

His question was this: "Dad, why am I always the last one they pick in PE?"

He asked it with sadness and resignation, as though he already has some sense of the future that will unfold. But I think he asked it more in the form of a question that might have an answer - a problem for which there could be a solution. And unfortunately the solution space is limited here.

So let's back up for a moment. In the United States, the average age for the onset of male puberty is approximately 11.5 years. My son turns 11.5 years old next week. He is in the fifth grade at the local public school.

My son is also a geek. Without question. Like his father at that age, he is small and scrawny and wildly uncoordinated. He is decently intelligent, madly in love with all things scientific, mathematical and technological, but unskilled in most social situations.

I asked him how they select teams in PE. It's the same way they've done it for centuries. The teacher picks two star athletes to be the captains of the two teams, and then they alternately pick their team members one by one.

I am amazed that in this day and age, with all the emphasis on diversity and political correctness and inclusion, that this form of medieval torture would still be allowed. Think about it from the geek perspective. You are standing in a large room with all of your peers. Your peers are picked one by one until you are the last person left on the opposite side of the room. In front of everyone, you stand alone. You are publicly told, in the most visceral way possible, that you are the biggest loser in the class. And an adult authority figure is standing there supervising the proceedings, so it must be right and true. What could possibly be more embarrassing and humiliating for an 11.5-year-old kid than that kind of situation? This process is automatically rigged against all disabled and uncoordinated kids, and the level of public humiliation it inflicts is brutal.

We all know it happens. It is nearly cliche. The persona of Harry Potter is built on the foundation of geek abuse. There are TV shows designed around it, including this one that finally, in a small way, takes the geek's side (although it also shows a problem so severe that it requires professionals to deal with it):

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You Tube link to BULLY BEAT-DOWN VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_uhaByoBs

A MUST SEE!!!
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Bullies are evil. The people who surround and empower bullies are worse. Unfortunately, this group is often the majority in a secondary school situation.

On the other hand, the abuse in fifth grade may be helpful. Because this is just the first level of a many-layered hell that the geek endures in Middle and High School. The PE embarrassment festival in fifth grade is an early taste that prepares the geek for the many embarrassments and humiliations that are to follow. If you are not a geek, you have no appreciation for this, but if you are a geek, you are nodding your head in sad affirmation. By age 15 or 16, the pain will be excruciating in comparison to this minor fifth grade stuff.

I mentioned above that this is one of the most repulsive features of the human condition. Why? There are two reasons. First, the abuse of geeks demonstrates that there is a group of people in this world who make it their business to make others miserable. That group first gains significant power as early as Elementary School. They will take that misery as far as they possibly can, and their peers will join in either out of fear or glee or ignorance. A good example of how bad the misery can get is this situation, where a teenage girl eventually committed suicide to escape her peers. That is not uncommon. And there are legions of kids, both male and female, who feel bad enough to seriously consider suicide because of the actions of their peers.

If you think a little further, you realize that it is this same phenomenon at the root of racism, sexism, homophobia, discrimination in general, caste systems, genocide and most of the other human-induced miseries in our world. All of it is completely unnecessary and hopelessly cruel.

Second, there is a group of adults, most likely early members of that same misery-producing group from elementary school, who, given the chance, make it possible for the misery to flourish in school environments. It would be possible for the adults to create a school environment that treated everyone equally (zero tolerance for bullying, zero emphasis on jocks, etc.), or that treated geeks as geniuses and pushed jocks to the background (because the ability to put a ball through a hoop is largely meaningless in today's world). But we do not.

Why would we create an environment that is tuned to make a group of uncoordinated and socially uncomfortable people miserable? Why create an environment that makes anyone miserable? Yet we do it constantly.

The part that is even more bizarre is that it is the geeks who make our modern world possible. Just about any major invention of the modern world - from cell phones to automobiles to sewer systems - was thought up and refined and introduced to the general public through the work of geeks: engineers, scientists, programmers, mathematicians, etc. Why in the world would we crush these people in Middle School and High School? How much would we and they gain if we did not crush them?

But crush them we do, and this is what my son and I will be trying to discuss. We will talk about all kinds of stuff. His path, unfortunately, is centuries old, including the whole PE thing. He will continue to get picked last. He will get hazed in the showers. He will be laughed at and humiliated for every athletic thing he is made to do. How do you talk about that sort of thing? "Well, my son, you have been born into a species that has the potential for so much good, but instead often descends into amazing cruelty. And you, unfortunately, are going to bear the brunt of that cruelty for many years." It will all be intensely embarrassing, yes, but there is absolutely nothing he can do about it.

And it goes well beyond PE. He will be eating alone or with a group of geek outcasts in the cafeteria. People will throw food at him. They will trip him. He will live in constant fear that he might have to use the restroom when other boys are using it, because he knows he will be hazed or worse in that small, enclosed space. He will at least once get stuffed in a locker - possibly many times. He will be rejected by every girl he approaches. As a result there is a high likelihood that he will skip/avoid all dances, including the prom. It's not because he won't want to go. But he will probably realize that it is another opportunity to be publicly humiliated. He will be forced to go to pep rallies and watch sports for which he has absolutely no interest because the whole High School World is geared to Jock culture at most schools.

Think about it: In High School the world divides into two types of people. There is the group for whom puberty is fast acting. They will be, for all practical purposes, adults at age 16 or so. The guys in this group will be shaving twice a day, bulking up as though on steroids, cussing, drinking, fathering children and so on. Levi Johnson and Bristol Palin are the spokespersons for this group. These people will be celebrated.

And then there is the group for whom puberty is slow acting. They won't be shaving until college. They won't be sexually active either, because they will have no choice. No one of the opposite sex will have anything to do with them. They will likely feel intensely uncomfortable and humiliated throughout their teen years.

So my son and I will have "the talk." We will discuss mitigating strategies. Avoidance strategies. Strategies for trying to eliminate or defuse the worst of the hazing and cruelty. Yesterday, for example, he came home in tears because everyone on the bus had ganged up chanting "UNIBROW". He unfortunately has eyebrows that resemble those of Sylar on the show Heroes. Sylar, of course, can eat his tormentors. Geeks generally have to use other techniques in situations like that.

But we will also discuss the silver lining. Although impossible to imagine in high school, it does get better in college because, in general, the geeks get to go to college while the others don't. And then as you exit college it gets better because there are plenty of opportunities for geeks. Geeks have a chance to work in places that are geek-friendly because they are filled with geeks.

The hazing also gives the geek experience in persevering even though there are nay-sayers. It lets you value yourself without the outward acceptance of others, which can increase your independence and drive. I believe there are other systems we could create that would have the same outcome without the pain, but in High School such systems are rare.

The one other thing I will tell him is that when he comes home, he will be accepted here unconditionally, and with love, and celebrated for his geekiness. Because we are a family of geeks. Even though that will be relatively minor consolation when compared to the abuse he is getting from his peers, it will mean something to him. Hopefully it will be enough to keep him from committing suicide.

An excellent article.

It appears that grade school and high school is like a great gulf or a wide chasm that the science nerds and geeks must traverse, and at the slightest miss-step, one will fall into the deep dark abyss.

That is what happened to me.

I didn't make it across. I fell into the abyss of anxiety, depression, and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, commonly known as PTSD, while some have been even worse off, having committed suicide as a result.

Gee! Isn't sports fun!!!

I love the Harry Potter reference in the article.

I'm sorry to say, I haven't gotten around to reading the Harry Potter books yet. That is next on my agenda.

But I heard what the stories are about, and I have heard that it is about how some kid in school, the typical nerd or geek being picked on, and how he acquires mystical powers, and goes off on great adventures.

I love both science fiction and fantasy novels. I have read The Chronicles Of Narnia by C. S. Lewis, also Paralendra, Out Of The Silent Planet, and That Hideous Strength also by C. S. Lewis. I have read The Gormenghast Trilogy by Mervyn Peake, which is about an enormous city-sized castle with great towers more than a thousand feet high. I believe it takes place in the far future, at least a couple of thousand years from now, being that in the story Lord Sepulchrave, was the 76th Earl of The House Of Groan. So assuming 40 years to each generation on average, that would place the story at least 3000 years in the future.

So, I'm looking forward to reading some of the Harry Potter books.

Yeah, I notice that a lot of right-wing Christian fundamentalists are all up in arms over the Harry Potter books, and some of them would like to see these books banned from our school libraries. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell (who as bought the farm a couple years ago, now worm food) are two of the most vicious Funny-mentalist whack-jobs out there.

Now, the reasons given by religious Funny-mentalists for wanting to ban these books is that it is about magic and witchcraft and occult rituals. I haven't read the books yet, so I don't know.

But I also believe there is another motive.

They don't like the idea of some nerd being empowered to stand up for himself. These right-wing religious Funny-mentalist whack-jobs prefer that only the bullies are empowered, and they love that the nerds and geeks are beaten down.

That's because we nerds and geeks study evolution, and we know that the universe is billions of years old, and not a mere 7000 years old as religious Funny-mentalist all believe.

The jocks, the sports bores, and the right-wing Funny-mentalists are the people who make our schools a living Hell for the more serious students who wish to excel in science and math.

I notice also, that extreme right-wing religious Funny-mentalists are also among the most vicious of all the sports fans. The lower the level of education, the more vicious and violent they become, and they want to ban books!

Which also reminds me . . . . .

When I was in Junior High School, I had a fanatical PE teacher who singled out this one really fat kid for harassment. I was 13 years old at the time, before I became fat myself. As he was harassing this fat kid, I remember one of the things he said to him, and that was "I'll make a Christian Saint outta ya yet!" and right then and there, I could see that there is a connection between extreme religious Funny-mentalism and the brutality of some PE teachers in our schools, and a perfect example of how sports has become a kind of religious cult.

If you are a nerd or a geek, then you have to cross that great gulf in our high schools. You have to virtually wade across The Great Lake Of Slime and then you have to walk through the fire to get through school these days.

I have a new name for all the nerds and geeks out there who made it through high school despite the constant harassment and bullying by the jocks and the sports bores, and then, have gone on to collage to become successful.

They have been tried in the fire.

And so, for the successful Nerds and Geeks . . . . .

Here is my new name for you!

I created this logo just for them, to be used by Nerds and Geeks only!

Jocks and sports bores, keep your slimy hands off, or you'll get burned!!!

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:56 am**

I will say that middle school/high school can be very tormenting for "geeks" who are insecure with themselves, and really want to fit in. Although I'm not exactly the king of my school, I feel fortunate that I have always been pretty popular and in the "in" crowd so to speak. That may sound shallow, but I definitely had better high school years because of it.

Bullying, however, doesn't center around sports. It's simply popular vs. nerdy.

I know plenty of people who are terrible or do not care about sports in anyway who do alright for themselves as far as popularity goes. Sports may play a small role here and there, but bullying in large part is due to kids being nerdy and other kids being "cool", or whatever you want to call it.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:20 am**

The problem seems to be not that geeks are insecure with themselves and really want to fit in. (That's actually a rather insulting comment. As if a geek would want to date a shallow, social climbing slut instead of a genuinely nice girl. What decent teenage boy would? I never did.) Far from it. Most of them just want to be left alone. The problem is that they are targeted and singled out to be picked on. You continue to ignore the bullying that frequently occurs in traditional P.E., despite evidence to the contrary. You seem to think that I'm attacking ball games (which is ludicrous), when all I want is for P.E. to be reformed with a program that will actually promote physical fitness for nonathletes, instead of humiliating them and driving a social wedge between them and their athletic classmates. Believe what you please. I give up. You seem to believe that anything that is outside the range of your own experience just cannot be true. Are you calling Marshall Brain a liar? Did you even read his article? (Anyone who would not be moved by this heartfelt expression of a father over what his son will have to face must have a heart of stone. And I speak as a father, not as a carefree teenager.) So I see that when it comes to bullying, you blame the victim. Oh, well, that's very common. Many principals, most coaches, some teachers, and even school psychologists have no problem with bullying. You know, it's just "the natural cruelty of boys." Incidentally, while I commend you for recognizing that Patricia Cayo Sexton is an idiot, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that most of the boys' P.E. coaches at your high school, let alone those who work at other schools in other districts, agree with her about "feminized males."

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:37 am**

Polite24 wrote:I will say that middle school/high school can be very tormenting for "geeks" who are insecure with themselves, and really want to fit in. Although I'm not exactly the king of my school, I feel fortunate that I have always been pretty popular and in the "in" crowd so to speak. That may sound shallow, but I definitely had better high school years because of it.

At last we come to it.

Translation: "It didn't happen to me, so I don't care." Stop trying to convince us that you do. Because you don't. You only say such things to try and validate your arguments.

Polite24 wrote:Bullying, however, doesn't center around sports. It's simply popular vs. nerdy.

I never made such a claim. I'm going to state it again, like a broken record. Sports tends to attract the bullying aggressive types. Yet you display sports as some way of 'cleaning up' the social environment of bullies and keeping them out of trouble, and I'm telling you point blank, sports does nothing but give bullies a legitimate route (enabled by physical education teachers) to pick on their less physically inclined peers.

Sports, in its current form in the educational realm, accomplishes nothing in this regard, nor will it until it changes to focus on educating our children on the importance of physical fitness rather than teaching them the importance of malevolent competitiveness, which is what it does now.

Polite24 wrote:I know plenty of people who are terrible or do not care about sports in anyway who do alright for themselves as far as popularity goes. Sports may play a small role here and there, but bullying in large part is due to kids being nerdy and other kids being "cool", or whatever you want to call it.

This statement is pointless. This isn't about clique groups. Bullying is a separate subject. The primary point is that sports themselves are not worth the ridiculously high value you place upon them. They create animosity, lewdness, unhealthy competitiveness, and give any human being the excuse to behave generally like an animal and not act like we are at the top of the food chain, which our intelligence defines, not our acts of physical prowess.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:46 am**

Polite24 wrote:I will say that middle school/high school can be very tormenting for "geeks" who are insecure with themselves, and really want to fit in. Although I'm not exactly the king of my school, I feel fortunate that I have always been pretty popular and in the "in" crowd so to speak. That may sound shallow, but I definitely had better high school years because of it.

Bullying, however, doesn't center around sports. It's simply popular vs. nerdy.

I know plenty of people who are terrible or do not care about sports in anyway who do alright for themselves as far as popularity goes. Sports may play a small role here and there, but bullying in large part is due to kids being nerdy and other kids being "cool", or whatever you want to call it.

We all love technology, the electronics that go into our computers, Liquid Chrystal Display large flat screen TV, CD and DVD players, and the electronics that go into our fancy cars.

Not to mention the electronic technology that goes into medial equipment, CT and MRI scanners, etc. etc.

All of these things, that we love so much, that even the jocks and sports bores love so much, are the results of the nerds and techno-geeks who studied science and math, which you had said in some previous post as being useless!!!

Ah yes! We all love these really cool, state-of-the-art neato, boss and bodacious technological toys, yet the jocks and sports bores hate the nerds and techno-geeks who have brought all of these wonderful gizmos and gadgets into this world!

Yeah! You do indeed sound very shallow!

Another moronic voice speaking from the shallow end on the human gene pool!

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:06 am**

Most people will not use advanced science or advanced math in real life, or at least they won't need to know how.

However, I do retract my statement of them being useless and saying that they should be elective classes. Many kids probably realize in high school they would like to go into math or science because they were forced to take it in high school. And those things are important for people who study them because they are responsible for much of our technology.

Again, it's not jocks vs. nerds

It's popular vs. unpopular, and that's really something you can't control. Cliques will always exist.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:25 am**

Polite24 wrote:Most people will not use advanced science or advanced math in real life, or at least they won't need to know how.

However, I do retract my statement of them being useless and saying that they should be elective classes. Many kids probably realize in high school they would like to go into math or science because they were forced to take it in high school. And those things are important for people who study them because they are responsible for much of our technology.

Again, it's not jocks vs. nerds

It's popular vs. unpopular, and that's really something you can't control. Cliques will always exist.

When I was in high school, I have dealt with Cliques, and yes, many of them are snobs, and can be verbally abusive, but it's usually the jocks and the sports bores who go way way way way way beyond mere verbal teasing and resort to physical violence instead!

That's because monkey-boys have a vocabulary limited to about 50 one-syllable words and they lack the intelligence and verbal skills to come up with a really clever insult, and so, they bash heads against lockers to express themselves.

Oh wait a minute! I take that back! Monkey-boys do know some two-syllable words, like football and money and Hummer!

Yeah! I forgot about that! Stupid me!!!

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:08 am**

That article is so sad, school is bad enough as it is without jocks making life hell for them.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:45 am**

Like I said in my previous post, anyone who would not be moved by this article (not mentioning any names) must have a heart of stone.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:36 pm**

Polite24 wrote:Most people will not use advanced science or advanced math in real life, or at least they won't need to know how.

However, I do retract my statement of them being useless and saying that they should be elective classes. Many kids probably realize in high school they would like to go into math or science because they were forced to take it in high school. And those things are important for people who study them because they are responsible for much of our technology.

Again, it's not jocks vs. nerds

It's popular vs. unpopular, and that's really something you can't control. Cliques will always exist.

'It's popular versus unpopular.' Again, that was never the point.

Popular or unpopular, cliques or no cliques, I don't give a tin twat, because they are irrelevant. You can still keep sports and its animalism out of either realm for me.

Seriously, why are you here? What point do you hope to make? What goal do you hope to accomplish? Don't tell me it's to try and make clear the point that you can't stand what this website stands for, because you don't ever address the real reasons this site exists when any of us bring it up. My observation is, all you seem to do are target and pick on those you believe are less intelligent than you are, or just make general statements at nobody (i.e. your 'Why I Think Sports are Beneficial to Society' thread). You never lock horns with anyone else. Unless you answer this question truthfully, I will simply assume you are here to amuse yourself and willfully harm others with your regurgitated nonsense.

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