Jesus Camp - Run By A Psycho Bitch Brainwashing Children!
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Jesus Camp - Run By A Psycho Bitch Brainwashing Children!
This is a series of nine videos on YouTube, about a summer camp for children where little kids are being brainwashed and indoctrinated.
This is some real scary shit!
Jesus Camp - 1/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqGhcwwE1s
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ZeroFiftyFour | March 25, 2010
Jesus Camp is a 2006 American documentary film directed by Rachel Grady and Heidi Ewing about a Pentecostal/charismatic summer camp for children who spend their summers learning and practicing their "prophetic gifts" and being taught that they can "take back America for Christ.
Category: Education
Tags: * JESUS * CAMP * BRAINWASHING-KIDS * CHILD-MIND-CONTROL* RELIGIOUS-FANATICS
* CHRISTIANITY * EVANGELICAL-COMMUNITY * BECKY FISCHER
Jesus Camp - 2/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sA-64Mu ... re=related
Psycho Bitch says she wants to see children willing to lay down their lives for Christ.
A brainwashed child being home schooled says he believes that Galileo made the right choice by giving up science for Christ.
No! What actually happened was, that The Roman Catholic Church, the Holy Office, and the Inquisition brought charges of heresy against Galileo, threatened him with torture, interrogated him for many long hours until he broke and signed a confession recanting his convictions that the earth and all the planets revolved around the sun. At the time, Galileo was an old man, going blind, and he spent the remainder of his life under house arrest.
But the kid in the video has been brainwashed into believing that Galileo gave up science for Christ.
Galileo didn't give up shit! He had it all take away from him!
Jesus Camp - 3/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCZ7nV7K ... re=related
Before an evangelical meeting, Psycho Bitch prays that nothing goes wrong with any of the equipment, she prays for the videos cameras, the microphones, the electricity, etc. etc.
Well, God has nothing to do with that! That stuff was invented by us mere mortals. She should be giving thanks to all the scientists who made such technology possible.
Jesus Camp - 4/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j24LSfZC ... re=related
Toward the end of this video, we see Psycho Bitch preparing another lesson plan on her computer, a product of modern technology wrought by modern science, which she rejects!
Jesus Camp - 5/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ce9qMVb ... re=related
In a cafeteria, some kids were teasing another kid wearing glasses because he looks a little bit like Harry Potter. Oh! How cute!
Jesus Camp - 6/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFuwXH4R ... re=related
Psycho Bitch preaches war, and inspiring children to become like little warriors with painted faces, swinging long sticks and hopping around to music with a heavy beat. Gee! I thought rock music is suppoes to be the Devil's music!
Children cheer when introduced to a life-sized cardboard cutout of President Bush! Gee! I would think that worshiping an image of the President would be idolatry!
Jesus Camp - 7/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICOP_9U5 ... re=related
Jesus Camp - 8/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEDxFU2 ... re=related
Psycho Bitch says, giving everyone equal freedom will ultimately destroy us!
Uh huh! YEAH RIGHT!
Jesus Camp - 9/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mlbKDfp ... re=related
I found these videos really disturbing. Psycho Bitch really scares me!
I remember when I was a little kid about 4 years old. My parents were members of the VFW, Veterans of Foreign War, because my stepfather fought in the first world war, and one night my parents hired a baby sitter to take care of us kids while they attended a meeting.
This baby sitter warned us that if we didn't behave ourselves, that the Boogie-man would come and take us away. We were scared to death.
When our parents came home from the meeting, I asked then about the Boogie-man, and my mother got really pissed off, gave the baby sitter her severance pay, and told her she was fired for trying to scare us kids. So, I learned the truth from my mother, that there is no such thing as the Boogie-man.
But then, during the 1980s, Ronald Reagan was my Boogie-man, because he was really scary to me.
Well, this Psycho Bitch really really really scares the ever-living bee-jeebers outta me!
She's the Boogie-woman!
This is some real scary shit!
Jesus Camp - 1/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqGhcwwE1s
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ZeroFiftyFour | March 25, 2010
Jesus Camp is a 2006 American documentary film directed by Rachel Grady and Heidi Ewing about a Pentecostal/charismatic summer camp for children who spend their summers learning and practicing their "prophetic gifts" and being taught that they can "take back America for Christ.
Category: Education
Tags: * JESUS * CAMP * BRAINWASHING-KIDS * CHILD-MIND-CONTROL* RELIGIOUS-FANATICS
* CHRISTIANITY * EVANGELICAL-COMMUNITY * BECKY FISCHER
Jesus Camp - 2/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sA-64Mu ... re=related
Psycho Bitch says she wants to see children willing to lay down their lives for Christ.
A brainwashed child being home schooled says he believes that Galileo made the right choice by giving up science for Christ.
No! What actually happened was, that The Roman Catholic Church, the Holy Office, and the Inquisition brought charges of heresy against Galileo, threatened him with torture, interrogated him for many long hours until he broke and signed a confession recanting his convictions that the earth and all the planets revolved around the sun. At the time, Galileo was an old man, going blind, and he spent the remainder of his life under house arrest.
But the kid in the video has been brainwashed into believing that Galileo gave up science for Christ.
Galileo didn't give up shit! He had it all take away from him!
Jesus Camp - 3/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCZ7nV7K ... re=related
Before an evangelical meeting, Psycho Bitch prays that nothing goes wrong with any of the equipment, she prays for the videos cameras, the microphones, the electricity, etc. etc.
Well, God has nothing to do with that! That stuff was invented by us mere mortals. She should be giving thanks to all the scientists who made such technology possible.
Jesus Camp - 4/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j24LSfZC ... re=related
Toward the end of this video, we see Psycho Bitch preparing another lesson plan on her computer, a product of modern technology wrought by modern science, which she rejects!
Jesus Camp - 5/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ce9qMVb ... re=related
In a cafeteria, some kids were teasing another kid wearing glasses because he looks a little bit like Harry Potter. Oh! How cute!
Jesus Camp - 6/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFuwXH4R ... re=related
Psycho Bitch preaches war, and inspiring children to become like little warriors with painted faces, swinging long sticks and hopping around to music with a heavy beat. Gee! I thought rock music is suppoes to be the Devil's music!
Children cheer when introduced to a life-sized cardboard cutout of President Bush! Gee! I would think that worshiping an image of the President would be idolatry!
Jesus Camp - 7/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICOP_9U5 ... re=related
Jesus Camp - 8/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEDxFU2 ... re=related
Psycho Bitch says, giving everyone equal freedom will ultimately destroy us!
Uh huh! YEAH RIGHT!
Jesus Camp - 9/9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mlbKDfp ... re=related
I found these videos really disturbing. Psycho Bitch really scares me!
I remember when I was a little kid about 4 years old. My parents were members of the VFW, Veterans of Foreign War, because my stepfather fought in the first world war, and one night my parents hired a baby sitter to take care of us kids while they attended a meeting.
This baby sitter warned us that if we didn't behave ourselves, that the Boogie-man would come and take us away. We were scared to death.
When our parents came home from the meeting, I asked then about the Boogie-man, and my mother got really pissed off, gave the baby sitter her severance pay, and told her she was fired for trying to scare us kids. So, I learned the truth from my mother, that there is no such thing as the Boogie-man.
But then, during the 1980s, Ronald Reagan was my Boogie-man, because he was really scary to me.
Well, this Psycho Bitch really really really scares the ever-living bee-jeebers outta me!
She's the Boogie-woman!

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Re: Jesus Camp - Run By A Psycho Bitch Brainwashing Children
You really have it in for believers, don't you, Fat Man? In fact, you hate them. You're always ready to bash them. You're always sure to give a lot of attention to the most unreasonable and most extreme examples as if they were representative. Yet many of the finest people I've known have been members of churches of Christ. I'm sure you were absolutely delighted when you came across these videos. "Oh, goody! Another chance to bash those nasty funny mentalists." Incidentally, Darwinists are more likely than believers to defend bullying in schools. "Survival of the fittest," don't you know. Why haven't you ever denounced social Darwinism? I wonder where that came from.
Yes, boys and girls, be sure you always remember what Fat Man says. All believers are evil. All Darwinists are as pure as the driven snow. After all, neither the Nazis nor the Communists held Darwinist views, did they?
Fat Man, you talk so much about what happened to Galileo. Why don't you ever talk about Stalin's bloody persecution of the Medelian geneticists? Oh, I forgot. Only religious people persecute scientists (sarcasm intended). Oh, no! Mendel was a Catholic monk. We can't have that! How horrible.
I have half a mind to leave this website ...
Yes, boys and girls, be sure you always remember what Fat Man says. All believers are evil. All Darwinists are as pure as the driven snow. After all, neither the Nazis nor the Communists held Darwinist views, did they?
Fat Man, you talk so much about what happened to Galileo. Why don't you ever talk about Stalin's bloody persecution of the Medelian geneticists? Oh, I forgot. Only religious people persecute scientists (sarcasm intended). Oh, no! Mendel was a Catholic monk. We can't have that! How horrible.
I have half a mind to leave this website ...
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Re: Jesus Camp - Run By A Psycho Bitch Brainwashing Children
OK, I know that not all Christians are like the ones shown in these videos. I'm sure there are many good and decent Christians like yourself and most of your church members.
But we very seldom see the examples of good Christians, because the extremists are the ones who get all the publicity, and these are the ones who have more influence on our politicians. They make the big bucks so they can afford all the publicity they're getting, while the decent Christians in small churches are unable to publicly renounce these extremist elements because they lack the financial backing to make their views more widely known.
These people want to change our government so that only Christianity is accepted.
Then there are Islamic extremists who would like to see the USA being under Sharia Law.
What about the rights of other religions to exist?
Jews don't go around wanting to change all of our laws. Jews aren't trying to get creationism introduced into school science classes.
All the other different religions, like Buddhists aren't going around wanting to change how our government works.
It's only the extremists in Christianity and Islam who are stirring up all these problems.
Oh, and Darwin NEVER said it was "survival of the fittest". In fact, he would be appalled by the racism of Hitler and the KKK and all these racist skinheads. Charles Darwin said that diversity within a species improved the chances of survival, that the more diverse a species is, the better it can adapt to changing environments. And when he visited primitive tribes, he actually had great admiration for them. He never believed that any one race was superior to another. The human species is successful because of our great diversity and our ability to adapt to many different kinds of environments around the world. So, it's not survival of the fittest, but rather, survival of the adaptable.
These so-called social Darwinists, many of them have never actually studied Darwin's Theory of Evolution, so they don't know what the Hell they're talking about.
Some people blame Darwin's Theory of Evolution for the killings at Columbine because one of the killers wore a T shirt that said NATURAL SELECTION on it.
The fact is, in countries were Evolution is more widely accepted in their schools, the lower the crime rates are in those countries.
The quality of education has been on the decline in the USA.
Countries with a better quality of education have much lower crime rates than the USA. And in those countries, there is no controversy over teaching evolution in their schools.
It's only here in the USA that there is so much controversy over teaching evolution, the USA has become the laughing stock among the better educated nations overseas.
Oh! I just broke another tooth this morning. So, I'm in pain and in a very very very bad mood!!!
In Texas, in this donkey fucking redneck state, my Medicaid/Medicare does not cover dental work for anyone over 18, so again I'm screwed.
I'm going to find some way to move my fat ass up to Canada where I can get better health care, and where they have more intellectual and academic freedom.
I'm sick and tired of these people like Pat Robertson, Ray Comfort, and now, Psycho Bitch getting rich off of religion, and she's brainwashing these children. They will end up living in poverty as adults because they will have rejected science and getting an education.
Those kids will end up in the living streets, flying cardboard signs and panhandling, and thumping their little Bibles while preaching on the street corners.
In the meantime Psycho Bitch grows rich while exploiting these little children. And she sits there in her nice fancy house with all the latest modern conveniences complements of science which she rejects so much, and saying that giving equal freedom to all people is what's going to destroy us.
So, let me guess. It's going to be up to people like her to decide who will be granted freedom and who will not, or who will be categorized as second class citizens.
People like me, will be categorized as second class citizens and we'll have our civil rights taken away. Hell, I'm already a second class citizen because I hate sports, so I guess I'll become a third class citizen if people like Psycho Bitch has her way!
In the meantime, I'm in a really bad mood because of having another broken tooth.
Well, I'm going to demand that some dentist fix these two broken teeth of mine even if I have to stick a gun in his face to make him do it. I'll go to prison if I have to, as long as I can get these two broken teeth fixed. I'm not going to settle for pain killers and antibiotics and wait for the nerve endings to die. I'm tired of having to wait for small pieces of myself to die off before the pain goes away.
We give free Hummers away to football players and they can chomp down on sirloin and T-bone stakes while I may have to live on soup or baby food!
And Psycho Bitch grows rich brainwashing little children, and she wants to see all of our basic civil liberties taken away.
I would love to see here come to El Paso so I could have the pleasure of knocking her teeth out with my cane. Of course, she will be able to afford the get her teeth fixed, and while I'm serving time in prison, well, they will have to look after my medical needs, so then, I too will be able to get my teeth fixed. In prison, they have to take care of any medical needs I might have.
OK, it's not that I hate Christians because I know that not all Christians are like Pat Robertson, or Ray Comfort, or Psycho Bitch.
I just hate people who reject science, whether they be religious fanatics or jocks, I hate people who reject science, because it's science that's keeping me alive. It's just that in Texas, I'm being denied the necessary medical science that could fix my front teeth.
Praying is not going to heal these teeth. Even you said that God doesn't do miracles anymore like in the times of Christ, and of course, I'm even skeptical of those as well, but then, that's just me. OK?
The Republicans have their own version of a health care plan that they would like to implement. First you give a hundred dollars per month to The 700 Club, then when Pat Robertson appears on TV, you get down on your knees, and place your right hand on the TV screen while Pat Robertson prays for you and all the viewers who need healing.
OK, I'm only kidding! That was a joke!
In the meantime, I'll just keep swishing some Vodka in my mouth to dull the pain, and take lots of pain killers, and become addicted to them, and end up another pathetic junkie.
God bless the USA!!!
Glory hallelujah!
Amen!
But we very seldom see the examples of good Christians, because the extremists are the ones who get all the publicity, and these are the ones who have more influence on our politicians. They make the big bucks so they can afford all the publicity they're getting, while the decent Christians in small churches are unable to publicly renounce these extremist elements because they lack the financial backing to make their views more widely known.
These people want to change our government so that only Christianity is accepted.
Then there are Islamic extremists who would like to see the USA being under Sharia Law.
What about the rights of other religions to exist?
Jews don't go around wanting to change all of our laws. Jews aren't trying to get creationism introduced into school science classes.
All the other different religions, like Buddhists aren't going around wanting to change how our government works.
It's only the extremists in Christianity and Islam who are stirring up all these problems.
Oh, and Darwin NEVER said it was "survival of the fittest". In fact, he would be appalled by the racism of Hitler and the KKK and all these racist skinheads. Charles Darwin said that diversity within a species improved the chances of survival, that the more diverse a species is, the better it can adapt to changing environments. And when he visited primitive tribes, he actually had great admiration for them. He never believed that any one race was superior to another. The human species is successful because of our great diversity and our ability to adapt to many different kinds of environments around the world. So, it's not survival of the fittest, but rather, survival of the adaptable.
These so-called social Darwinists, many of them have never actually studied Darwin's Theory of Evolution, so they don't know what the Hell they're talking about.
Some people blame Darwin's Theory of Evolution for the killings at Columbine because one of the killers wore a T shirt that said NATURAL SELECTION on it.
The fact is, in countries were Evolution is more widely accepted in their schools, the lower the crime rates are in those countries.
The quality of education has been on the decline in the USA.
Countries with a better quality of education have much lower crime rates than the USA. And in those countries, there is no controversy over teaching evolution in their schools.
It's only here in the USA that there is so much controversy over teaching evolution, the USA has become the laughing stock among the better educated nations overseas.
Oh! I just broke another tooth this morning. So, I'm in pain and in a very very very bad mood!!!
In Texas, in this donkey fucking redneck state, my Medicaid/Medicare does not cover dental work for anyone over 18, so again I'm screwed.
I'm going to find some way to move my fat ass up to Canada where I can get better health care, and where they have more intellectual and academic freedom.
I'm sick and tired of these people like Pat Robertson, Ray Comfort, and now, Psycho Bitch getting rich off of religion, and she's brainwashing these children. They will end up living in poverty as adults because they will have rejected science and getting an education.
Those kids will end up in the living streets, flying cardboard signs and panhandling, and thumping their little Bibles while preaching on the street corners.
In the meantime Psycho Bitch grows rich while exploiting these little children. And she sits there in her nice fancy house with all the latest modern conveniences complements of science which she rejects so much, and saying that giving equal freedom to all people is what's going to destroy us.
So, let me guess. It's going to be up to people like her to decide who will be granted freedom and who will not, or who will be categorized as second class citizens.
People like me, will be categorized as second class citizens and we'll have our civil rights taken away. Hell, I'm already a second class citizen because I hate sports, so I guess I'll become a third class citizen if people like Psycho Bitch has her way!
In the meantime, I'm in a really bad mood because of having another broken tooth.
Well, I'm going to demand that some dentist fix these two broken teeth of mine even if I have to stick a gun in his face to make him do it. I'll go to prison if I have to, as long as I can get these two broken teeth fixed. I'm not going to settle for pain killers and antibiotics and wait for the nerve endings to die. I'm tired of having to wait for small pieces of myself to die off before the pain goes away.
We give free Hummers away to football players and they can chomp down on sirloin and T-bone stakes while I may have to live on soup or baby food!
And Psycho Bitch grows rich brainwashing little children, and she wants to see all of our basic civil liberties taken away.
I would love to see here come to El Paso so I could have the pleasure of knocking her teeth out with my cane. Of course, she will be able to afford the get her teeth fixed, and while I'm serving time in prison, well, they will have to look after my medical needs, so then, I too will be able to get my teeth fixed. In prison, they have to take care of any medical needs I might have.
OK, it's not that I hate Christians because I know that not all Christians are like Pat Robertson, or Ray Comfort, or Psycho Bitch.
I just hate people who reject science, whether they be religious fanatics or jocks, I hate people who reject science, because it's science that's keeping me alive. It's just that in Texas, I'm being denied the necessary medical science that could fix my front teeth.
Praying is not going to heal these teeth. Even you said that God doesn't do miracles anymore like in the times of Christ, and of course, I'm even skeptical of those as well, but then, that's just me. OK?
The Republicans have their own version of a health care plan that they would like to implement. First you give a hundred dollars per month to The 700 Club, then when Pat Robertson appears on TV, you get down on your knees, and place your right hand on the TV screen while Pat Robertson prays for you and all the viewers who need healing.
OK, I'm only kidding! That was a joke!
In the meantime, I'll just keep swishing some Vodka in my mouth to dull the pain, and take lots of pain killers, and become addicted to them, and end up another pathetic junkie.
God bless the USA!!!
Glory hallelujah!
Amen!

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Re: Jesus Camp - Run By A Psycho Bitch Brainwashing Children
The Jesus Camp videos are disturbing, but remember that Psycho Bitch was also a kid once, who was taught exactly what she's teaching now. She's just doing what she thinks is correct.
Also, Fat Man, I'm kind of disturbed that no dentist where you live can fix broken teeth... That's one of the fundamentals of dentistry, isn't it? Have you tried searching around? There are a few sites where you can search areas for doctors based on your medical needs.
Also, Fat Man, I'm kind of disturbed that no dentist where you live can fix broken teeth... That's one of the fundamentals of dentistry, isn't it? Have you tried searching around? There are a few sites where you can search areas for doctors based on your medical needs.
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Re: Jesus Camp - Run By A Psycho Bitch Brainwashing Children
I live on an SSI disability check, and I have Medicaid/Medicare.Fledermausmensch wrote:The Jesus Camp videos are disturbing, but remember that Psycho Bitch was also a kid once, who was taught exactly what she's teaching now. She's just doing what she thinks is correct.
Also, Fat Man, I'm kind of disturbed that no dentist where you live can fix broken teeth... That's one of the fundamentals of dentistry, isn't it? Have you tried searching around? There are a few sites where you can search areas for doctors based on your medical needs.
When I lived in New Mexico, I could get my teeth fixed.
But since I have been living in Texas, my Medicaid/Medicare won't cover any kind of dental work for anyone over 18 years old.
Yeah! They do have the ability to fix my teeth. They just don't want to! So I just have to "man up" and live with the pain.
But then, that's Texas for you! I'll have to go around with a redneck smile with a couple of missing front teeth.
Texas is the death capital of the USA. Those of us living on a low income are on death row here in Texas.
I hate Texas, and I'm beginning to hate the rest of the USA more and more because we are becoming just another ass-backwards Banana Republic!

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Re: Jesus Camp - Run By A Psycho Bitch Brainwashing Children
Going back about Jesus camp, wow, it looks like one of those 'education camps' that those strange cults back in Japan (like the Aum Supreme Truth cult)... well, one thing is for sure, these 'cults' are increasing their membership...
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Yeah! And all those kids dancing around with painted faces, and swinging those long sticks like Ninja Warriors, they're being inspired toward violence. When they grow up, they're going to bomb public buildings and schools and physically attack anyone who is not one of them.The Imperialist wrote:Going back about Jesus camp, wow, it looks like one of those 'education camps' that those strange cults back in Japan (like the Aum Supreme Truth cult)... well, one thing is for sure, these 'cults' are increasing their membership...
It's really going to be fun living in the USA about 10 years from now.
NOT!!!

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Well, fingers crossed that threr won't be a subway gas attack then...
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To Earl
I'm sorry if my topic has offend you in any way.
I know that you're one of the good Christians, and that your little church are among the good churches.
I'm angry, not at Christianity itself, but at the extremists who proclaim themselves to be Christians.
It's the extremists who are far better able to get their message out, because they are backed by big money, while humble little churches like yours do not have a loud enough voice to get their message out, because the voice of churches like yours are drowned out by the loud moronic screeching of the extremists backed by big money.
We have Fred Phelps with his Westboro Baptist Church with his "God Hates Fags" and his "Thank God For Dead Soldiers" and a music video "God Hates The World" which is a sick parody of "We Are The World" which was sung back in the 1980s during a fundraiser to feed starving children in Africa. The Westboro Baptist Church had taken a beautiful song, and made a sick parody of it.
They have forgotten all about John 3:16 where is says "For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, etc. etc." and instead, they proudly proclaim that God hates the world and everyone in it, including our soldiers who gave their lives fighting for this country.
Then there are all these other whack-jobs who have forgotten all about The Beatitudes from the Sermon on the Mount where is says blessed are the poor or blessed are those who morn, etc. etc.
Although I'm not a Christian, I like the message conveyed by the Sermon On The Mount. That's what ALL Christian churches should be teaching.
But, I recently came across another video from another right-wing preacher who hates the poor, and he actually said we deserve to STARVE! STARVE! STARVE!
It's these whack-packs who are able to get their messages out because they are backed by politicians and people with the big bucks, so they have the loudest voices in the media.
But the voices of the good people in your humble little church is but a whisper by comparison, because their more gentle voices are overwhelmed by the loud mouth moronic whack-packs.
Anyway . . . .
I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
Please accept my apology.
Now, I'm going to pour myself a small shot of Vodka to swish around in my mouth and take 4 Aspirin to kill the pain in my second broken tooth!
I'm sorry if my topic has offend you in any way.
I know that you're one of the good Christians, and that your little church are among the good churches.
I'm angry, not at Christianity itself, but at the extremists who proclaim themselves to be Christians.
It's the extremists who are far better able to get their message out, because they are backed by big money, while humble little churches like yours do not have a loud enough voice to get their message out, because the voice of churches like yours are drowned out by the loud moronic screeching of the extremists backed by big money.
We have Fred Phelps with his Westboro Baptist Church with his "God Hates Fags" and his "Thank God For Dead Soldiers" and a music video "God Hates The World" which is a sick parody of "We Are The World" which was sung back in the 1980s during a fundraiser to feed starving children in Africa. The Westboro Baptist Church had taken a beautiful song, and made a sick parody of it.
They have forgotten all about John 3:16 where is says "For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, etc. etc." and instead, they proudly proclaim that God hates the world and everyone in it, including our soldiers who gave their lives fighting for this country.
Then there are all these other whack-jobs who have forgotten all about The Beatitudes from the Sermon on the Mount where is says blessed are the poor or blessed are those who morn, etc. etc.
Although I'm not a Christian, I like the message conveyed by the Sermon On The Mount. That's what ALL Christian churches should be teaching.
But, I recently came across another video from another right-wing preacher who hates the poor, and he actually said we deserve to STARVE! STARVE! STARVE!
It's these whack-packs who are able to get their messages out because they are backed by politicians and people with the big bucks, so they have the loudest voices in the media.
But the voices of the good people in your humble little church is but a whisper by comparison, because their more gentle voices are overwhelmed by the loud mouth moronic whack-packs.
Anyway . . . .
I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
Please accept my apology.
Now, I'm going to pour myself a small shot of Vodka to swish around in my mouth and take 4 Aspirin to kill the pain in my second broken tooth!

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It's a shame that you're discontented and thinking of leaving us, Earl. You're more appreciated on here than you might think. I've noticed that every obnoxious sports bore attacking the forums during your time on here has taken a more respectful tone when talking to you. Like Ivy League and even mike_the_pain_train. The 4channers seem to have more regard for you than any other member on here. One of my recent Google searches on the 4chan threads for references to this website turned up a quote saying "Earl was OK. Everyone else was a massive faggot." But if you do choose to leave, then I must respect that decision. Given all that's been going on here this year, I can very much understand why.Earl wrote:I have half a mind to leave this website ...
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Thanks for your post, i_like_1981. It's quite encouraging to me. My apologies for speaking out in anger. I lost my temper. I intend to stay here indefinitely. Posting in this forum has been a learning experience for me. Because of this website, I've learned about the movement to reform P.E.; and I've also learned that there are people who break stereotypes. I have learned how to be more communicative. And receiving compliments from unexpected sources has meant a lot to me. My discontent has not been caused by the rude or disrespectful critics of this website (as opposed to the civil ones).i_like_1981 wrote:It's a shame that you're discontented and thinking of leaving us, Earl. You're more appreciated on here than you might think. I've noticed that every obnoxious sports bore attacking the forums during your time on here has taken a more respectful tone when talking to you. Like Ivy League and even mike_the_pain_train. The 4channers seem to have more regard for you than any other member on here. One of my recent Google searches on the 4chan threads for references to this website turned up a quote saying "Earl was OK. Everyone else was a massive faggot." But if you do choose to leave, then I must respect that decision. Given all that's been going on here this year, I can very much understand why.Earl wrote:I have half a mind to leave this website ...
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Good evening Earl.Earl wrote:Thanks for your post, i_like_1981. It's quite encouraging to me. My apologies for speaking out in anger. I lost my temper. I intend to stay here indefinitely. Posting in this forum has been a learning experience for me. Because of this website, I've learned about the movement to reform P.E.; and I've also learned that there are people who break stereotypes. I have learned how to be more communicative. And receiving compliments from unexpected sources has meant a lot to me. My discontent has not been caused by the rude or disrespectful critics of this website (as opposed to the civil ones).i_like_1981 wrote:It's a shame that you're discontented and thinking of leaving us, Earl. You're more appreciated on here than you might think. I've noticed that every obnoxious sports bore attacking the forums during your time on here has taken a more respectful tone when talking to you. Like Ivy League and even mike_the_pain_train. The 4channers seem to have more regard for you than any other member on here. One of my recent Google searches on the 4chan threads for references to this website turned up a quote saying "Earl was OK. Everyone else was a massive faggot." But if you do choose to leave, then I must respect that decision. Given all that's been going on here this year, I can very much understand why.Earl wrote:I have half a mind to leave this website ...
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I hope you had taken the time to read my earlier post just before I_like_1981's post.
I had apologized if you have found my topic to be offensive.
Please note: this topic was NOT meant to be an attack on ALL believers.
When I discovered the Jesus Camp videos, it was late at night, and it was about 1:30 AM when I saw the last one in the series of nine videos.
It was very disturbing, and after watching the last one, I went to bed, but I had difficulty trying to get any sleep. I would doze off only to wake up from a bizarre dream in a cold sweat, and I would try to fall asleep again, only to wake up again from another really bad dream.
If you're still mad at me, I'll understand.
It's people like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell (now deceased) Ray Comfort (The Banana Man), Kent Hovind (currently serving 10 years in the slammer for tax fraud) The Discovery Institute (A creation "science" organization now in deep shit for filing false DMCA claims against the YouTube users who produced educational videos on evolution) Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church with his "God hates fags" and his "thank God for dead soldiers" and Becky Fischer (whom I call Psycho Bitch) of the Jesus Camp, these are the people who are giving Christianity a bad name.
It was NOT my intention to put down ALL believers, but merely to expose these false Christians who make Christianity look bad.
I'm sorry, but this Psycho Bitch really scares me.
She is brainwashing these innocent little children, which has got to be the very worst form of child abuse, second only to physical and/or sexual abuse. Mental abuse is just as bad.
In an earlier post you had said . . . . .
Actually, when Hitler had books burned, the Origin of The Species by Charles Darwin was among those books that were burned. Also, they had a distorted view of Darwin's Theory. Charles Darwin never used the terms "survival of the fittest" but actually talked about how diversity within a species improves their chances for survival, and he never said that any one race was superior to another, and he actually had great admiration for many primitive tribes. We humans are the most adaptable because we have adapted to live in all kinds of different environments around the world from tropical to Arctic, so it's the diversity of our species that enabled the human race to survive. As I have said before, Darwin would be appalled by the racism of the Nazis, the KKK, and the skinheads.Yes, boys and girls, be sure you always remember what Fat Man says. All believers are evil. All Darwinists are as pure as the driven snow. After all, neither the Nazis nor the Communists held Darwinist views, did they?
Fat Man, you talk so much about what happened to Galileo. Why don't you ever talk about Stalin's bloody persecution of the Medelian geneticists? Oh, I forgot. Only religious people persecute scientists (sarcasm intended). Oh, no! Mendel was a Catholic monk. We can't have that! How horrible.
OK, I know I haven't mentioned Medelian geneticists. But, here's is another interesting fact. The Stalinist regime also rejected Darwin's Theory of Evolution in favor of Lysenkoism
Lysenkoism was a distortion of the scientific process as a way to reach a predetermined conclusion as dictated by an ideological bias, often related to social or political objectives.
Formally, Lysenkoism, or Lysenko-Michurinism, also denotes the biological inheritance principle which Trofim Lysenko subscribed to and which derive from theories of the heritability of acquired characteristics, a body of biological inheritance theory which departs from Mendelism and that Lysenko named "Michurinism".
Lysenkoism turned out to be just another pseudo science.
Here is some more information at: http://www.skepdic.com/lysenko.html
So, the Soviet Union under Stalin actually rejected Darwin's Theory of Evolution and Natural Selection for a different "evolutionary" theory, Lysenkoism, which had no basis in scientific methodology.Lysenkoism
Lysenkoism refers to an episode in Russian science featuring a non-scientific peasant plant-breeder named Trofim Denisovich LysenkoTrofim Denisovich Lysenko [1898-1976]. Lysenko was the leading proponent of Michurianism during the Lenin/Stalin years. I. V. Michurin, in turn, was a proponent of Lamarckism. Lamarck was an 18th century French scientist who argued for a theory of evolution long before Darwin. Lamarck's theory, however, has been rejected by evolutionary scientists because it is not nearly as powerful an explanation of evolution as natural selection.
According to Lamarck, evolution occurs because organisms can inherit traits which have been acquired by their ancestors. For example, giraffes find themselves in a changing environment in which they can only survive by eating leaves high up on trees. So, they stretch their necks to reach the leaves and this stretching and the desire to stretch gets passed on to later generations. As a result, a species of animal which originally had short necks evolved into a species with long necks.
Natural selection explains the long necks of the giraffes as a result of the workings of nature which allowed the species to feed off of the leaves which grow high on trees rather than graze as short-legged, short necked animals are prone to do. There was no purposive behavior which was a response to the environment which was then passed on to later generations. There was simply an environment which included trees with leaves up high and that was a favorable food source to long-legged, long-necked animals such as the giraffe. In fact, according to natural selection, if that were the only food source available, only animals with long- necks, or animals which can climb or fly, would survive. All others would become extinct. There is no plan here, divine or otherwise, according to natural selection. Furthermore, there is nothing special signified by the fact that a species has survived. Survival of the fittest means only that those who have survived were fit to survive. It doesn't mean that those who survive are superior to those species which don't. They've survived because they were fit to adapt to their environment, e.g., they had long necks when there was a good supply of food readily available high up in the trees and there were no other catastrophic disadvantages to their height. For example, if a species got so tall that it became impossible to mate, it would become extinct. Or, if the only food source on high happened to have a substance in it which rendered giraffes sterile, there would be no more giraffes, no matter how hard they tried to will themselves potent.
Lamarckism is favored by those who see will as the primary driving force of life, e.g., the 20th century French philosopher Henri Bergson. Evolution is hated by many of those who believe God created everything and everything has a purpose: the fundamentalist teleologists of the world. One might think that Marxists would prefer Darwin's theory of evolution with its mechanical, materialistic, deterministic, non-purposive concept of natural selection. Lamarckism looks like it might be preferred by free market advocates with their emphasis on will, effort, hard work and choice. But then Russia and the Soviet Union weren't really Marxists. They turned the dictatorship of the proletariat into the dictatorship of the professional dictator (Lenin, then Stalin). And even with the death of Stalin, the dictatorship of the communist party leaders who controlled everything, including the economy, took over.
In any case, Michurin's views on evolution found favor with the party leadership in the Soviet Union. When the rest of the scientific world were pursuing the ideas of Mendel and developing the new science of genetics, Russia led the way in the effort to prevent the new science from being developed in the Soviet Union. Thus, while the rest of the scientific world could not conceive of understanding evolution without genetics, the Soviet Union used its political power to make sure that none of their scientists would advocate a genetic role in evolution.
It was due to Lysenko's efforts that many real scientists, those who were geneticists or who rejected Lamarckism in favor of natural selection, were sent to the gulags or simply disappeared from the USSR. Lysenko rose to dominance at a 1948 conference in Russia where he delivered a passionate address denouncing Mendelian thought as "reactionary and decadent" and declared such thinkers to be "enemies of the Soviet people" (Gardner 1957). He also announced that his speech had been approved by the Central Committee of the Communist Party. Scientists either groveled, writing public letters confessing the errors of their way and the righteousness of the wisdom of the Party, or they were dismissed. Some were sent to labor camps. Some were never heard from again.
Under Lysenko's guidance, science was guided not by the most likely theories, backed by appropriately controlled experiments, but by the desired ideology. Science was practiced in the service of the State, or more precisely, in the service of ideology. The results were predictable: the steady deterioration of Soviet biology. Lysenko's methods were not condemned by the Soviet scientific community until 1965, more than a decade after Stalin's death.
Could something similar happen in the U.S.? Well, some might argue that it already has. First, there is the creationist movement which has tried, and at times been successful, in banning the teaching of evolution in public schools. With Duane Gish leading the way, who knows what would happen if Pat Robertson became President of the United States and Jerry Falwell his secretary of education. Then, of course, there are several well-known and well-financed scientists in America who also seem to be doing science in the name of ideology: not the ideology of fundamentalist Christianity but the ideology of racial superiority. Lysenko was opposed to the use of statistics, but had he been clever enough to see how useful statistics can be in the service of ideology, he might have changed his mind. Had he seen what J. Philippe Rushton, Arthur Jensen, Richard Lynn, Richard Herrnstein or Charles Murray have done with statistical data to support their ideology of racial superiority, Lysenko might have created a department of Supreme Soviet Statistics and proven with the magic of numbers the superiority of Lamarckism to natural selection and genetics.
Also, sorry I forgot to mention Mendel, a Catholic monk who was a geneticist.
But I have mentioned in another topic A Columbine bully who became addicted out of guilt on page 2 of the topic at
http://www.sportssuck.org/phpbb2/viewto ... 8&start=15
when the subject of evolution came up, about Carl Linnaeus who was the first to classify humans as primates about a century before Charles Darwin wrote Origin of the Species, and Carl Linnaeus was a Christian AND a creationist, and yet, he was the fist to classify us humans as primates before Darwin came along.
So, I'm sorry if I forgot to mention about Mendel and Medelian geneticists, but since you have mentioned it, then I now feel the need to add that the persecution of the Medelian geneticists was probably because the Stalinist regime actually rejected Darwin's Evolution in favor of Lysenkoism.
But the main focus of my topic is NOT on ALL Christians, but rather, on Psycho Bitch Becky Fischer and her Jesus Camp where children have been brainwashed.
What I found most disturbing was in one of the videos, a mother home schooling her children, and one of her kids talked about how Galileo gave up science for Jesus, which is a crock of shit!
No! Galileo was always a Christian!
He just didn't interpret everything in the bible so literally, and he even once said, that the Bible teaches how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go!
He ran into trouble when he said that the earth and all the planets revolved around the sun while the Catholic Church doctrine held that the sun and all the planets revolved around the earth and after being forced to sign a false confession, he spent the remainder of his life under house arrest.
Even then, despite all, he was still loyal to his church, even after all his church had done to him.
Sir Isaac Newton was a Christian, but not a Catholic, and he even refereed to the Catholic Church as The Great Whore of Babylon as depicted in the book of Revelations.
So, I'm not down on all Christians.
Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, and Sir Isaac Newton were all Christians, even though they did not interpret everything in the Bible so literally.
As anybody can see, I'm actually defending some Christians here. OK?
And the only reason why they were creationists was because the theory of evolution had not come along yet. But if Charles Darwin have been born a few centuries earlier and proposed his theory of Evolution back then, no doubt, Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, and Sir Isaac Newton would have accepted it because they were always seeking scientific explanations for any and all phenomena, and I'm sure that Evolution would have made a lot more sense to them than creationism.
Another thing that really gets my proverbial goat is when Psycho Bitch says, that science has never proven anything.
SAY WHAT??? EXCUSE ME!!!
I think the theory of the sun centered solar system, Kepler's law of Planetary Motions, Newton's Law of Gravity, Michael Faraday's Law of Electromagnetism, Einstein's Theory of General Relativity etc. etc. has very much been proven.
And all of these wonderful technological toys that we enjoy so much, our computers, micro-chips, flat screen digital TVs, cellphones, etc. etc. these are the results of what science has proven. These things did not come about by black magic or wizardry, or was given to us by Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy.
These are the products of science, bitches!!!
Notice how all of these (and I'm going to use the offensive terminology here) how all of these Christian Funny-mentalist whack-jobs, like Pat Robertson, and Psycho Bitch Becky Fischer, etc. etc. how they all love to sit around in their nice great big fancy houses and drive their nice fancy cars and enjoy all the benefits, all the conveniences and comforts wrought by modern science, yet rejecting science and pissing in the fountain of knowledge!
I say . . . . . FUCK THEM ALL TO HELL!!
What really makes me angry was that, when I was in school, I wanted to study science. As I had mentioned so many many many times before, my mother taught me how to read and write before I even started school, and when I was only in the 3rd grade, I was already reading at the high school and adult level, and when I was 13 years old I scored 150 points on a standard IQ test, but I was being harassed because I was lousy at sports.
I'm living in poverty while these right-wing Funny-mentalist Ecclesiassholes grow rich while wanting to ban the teaching of science and spreading their creationist fairy tales. They are growing more and more wealthy while spreading their lies and brainwashing innocent little children.
These moronic Christards grow rich while I live in poverty.
And I'm NOT referring to ALL believers. OK?
I'm only referring to those who are getting all the media attention because they have the big bucks.
I have two broken front teeth and I can't afford to have them fixed!
Time to pour another small shot of Vodka and swish it around inside my mouth to dull the pain and take 4 more Aspirin. I need medical attention that can only be provided by medical science. Praying isn't going to do jack-shit! Praying is not going to mend these two broken teeth.
If I had become a jock or a Bible-thumper, I would now have big bucks, but I couldn't become a jock because of my cripple up left knee, and I could not become a Bible-thumper because I have too much brains to believe in the bullshit I would have to spread. I would only be lying to myself.
Sorry, but I can't believe that the cosmos was created in only 6 days, or the the earth is only 6000 years old, when I know for a fact the universe is about 13 BILLION years old.
But I'm living in poverty because I don't believe in fairy tales!
And then Psycho Bitch even says that giving everyone equal freedom will ultimately destroy us!
Why do I feel like I'm getting my head bashed against a brick wall again?
Remember boys and girls . . . . .
Galileo died for our sins!
The sin of ignorance that is!

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What is the actual name of this so-called "Psycho Bitch"? I only watched part of one video and she didn't seem incredibly evil to me, but then again, one should not judge an entire book by just reading one random page. You never know what the heck might be going on. I'll watch the whole series of videos sometime and see what I have to say.
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Psycho Bitch's name is Becky Fischer!i_like_1981 wrote:What is the actual name of this so-called "Psycho Bitch"? I only watched part of one video and she didn't seem incredibly evil to me, but then again, one should not judge an entire book by just reading one random page. You never know what the heck might be going on. I'll watch the whole series of videos sometime and see what I have to say.
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Oh! And incidentally she was born in 1951 and I was born in 1951 so we are both about the same age. She's fat, and I'm fat, but that is the only thing we have in common.
I was born in a small industrial town up in Minnesota and I have always been interested in science.
She only learned to read the Bible and nothing else, and she was probably born in a barn down south somewhere, and she was raised in a pig pen! With her short cropped hair she looks like a bull dyke!
OK, I'm being sarcastic!
In one of the videos Psycho Bitch says that giving everyone equal freedom will ultimately destroy us!
She actually said that!
Believe me, she's a Jezebel, the bitch queen of the galaxy.
And like the Biblical Jezebel, I hope some day she meets a similar fate, which is getting thrown out of a high window and hitting the ground below, laying there dead, as dogs lick up her blood!
Hey boys and girls!
Can you say, defenestration???

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