Am I Selfish?
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Brigan, we (well, at least I) still want to know where that message about the El Paso library came from.
Fit Man, I hope you can see what is wrong with the sports culture that many people on this site criticize when you see the case of the cheerleader who refused to cheer for her rapist. How can a girl possibly be expected to do that? Is it really that important to have someone cheer for an athlete that they are willing to completely destroy the dignity of a human being for that purpose? Apparently so. There's so many things that are horribly wrong in that case, and it really isn't difficult to argue that many of those problems are a result of the sports culture. If the school administrators didn't think that athlete should be invulnerable to criticism (despite the fact that he's a rapist), the cheerleader wouldn't be forced to cheer for him or leave the team.
Fit Man, I hope you can see what is wrong with the sports culture that many people on this site criticize when you see the case of the cheerleader who refused to cheer for her rapist. How can a girl possibly be expected to do that? Is it really that important to have someone cheer for an athlete that they are willing to completely destroy the dignity of a human being for that purpose? Apparently so. There's so many things that are horribly wrong in that case, and it really isn't difficult to argue that many of those problems are a result of the sports culture. If the school administrators didn't think that athlete should be invulnerable to criticism (despite the fact that he's a rapist), the cheerleader wouldn't be forced to cheer for him or leave the team.
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Re: Am I Selfish?
Gladly.HugeFanOfBadReligion wrote:Brigan, we (well, at least I) still want to know where that message about the El Paso library came from.
http://www.elpasotexas.gov/library/Brigan wrote: Margaret M. Neill
Technical Services Manager
El Paso Public Library
501 N. Oregon St.
El Paso, TX 79901
(915) 543-5449
(915) 543-5407 FAX
NeillMM@el"step"texas.gov (to avoid Spambots)
Use the Contact Us.

i_like_1981 wrote:I respect a person who uses the knowledge they have of our language to come onto a forum with an opposing view and attempt to have a decent discussion. He's trying his best. Defend your points all you want, Fat Man, but it's unfair to insult his English skills when he's not a native speaker and is trying his hardest to communicate with us.
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Fat Man, I'm well aware of symbols. You, for example, are a symbol of laziness. One who just looks for excuses of why they didn't succeed in life. THAT'S symbolism right there, bucco!
Regardless, you should have picked a better "symbol". A football is hardly a symbol for all sports. MAYBE if you had shown multiple ball from all the sports, you'd be getting somewhere. But JUST a football? NOPE, SORRY FATTY! But like I've said before, I wouldn't expect much intelligence out of you, as you've yet to make any sort of a rational thought. Everything you're spewing out is emotion based. Have you ever made a SINGLE post that was purely rational without a single ounce of emotion driving you? Of course not. As a result of this, you are clearly incapable of being rational in its purest form. You will always just be emotionally driven. THIS is what make me more rational than you, and therefore more intelligent than you. Intelligent human beings do not let emotions get the best of them. You, Fat Shit, do.
So yeah, you're the classic example of the pot calling the kettle black. YOU are the moronic good for nothing birdbrain. Not me! You! No go back to grade school and maybe you'll learn a few life lessons.
You also say that those of lesser intelligence tend to be more physically brutal. So, that makes YOU of lesser intelligence. It was YOU, FATTY, that threatened to knock out my teeth and break my jaw. I never threatened you with physical violence, and only said that if you were to start shit with me, you'd regret it and you'd be the one who got hurt. So yup! You just said it yourself! You're of lesser intelligence because you're a violent person! I think kindergarten is calling you, Fat Shit. They see that you need help with your alphabet.
And again with the excuses after excuses. I DO NOT want to hear it anymore. I feel bad that it happened to you, I really do. But this is NOT an excuse for why you're a lazy piece of shit. Got it? MAKE SOMETHING OF YOURSELF. It's not too late. BE somebody, not just the bitter old man who complains about shit online.
Your last little paragraph again shows your tendency for violence. As a result, it shows your lack of intelligence, as you have even stated yourself. Way to show your stupidity, Fat Man!
Regardless, you should have picked a better "symbol". A football is hardly a symbol for all sports. MAYBE if you had shown multiple ball from all the sports, you'd be getting somewhere. But JUST a football? NOPE, SORRY FATTY! But like I've said before, I wouldn't expect much intelligence out of you, as you've yet to make any sort of a rational thought. Everything you're spewing out is emotion based. Have you ever made a SINGLE post that was purely rational without a single ounce of emotion driving you? Of course not. As a result of this, you are clearly incapable of being rational in its purest form. You will always just be emotionally driven. THIS is what make me more rational than you, and therefore more intelligent than you. Intelligent human beings do not let emotions get the best of them. You, Fat Shit, do.
So yeah, you're the classic example of the pot calling the kettle black. YOU are the moronic good for nothing birdbrain. Not me! You! No go back to grade school and maybe you'll learn a few life lessons.
You also say that those of lesser intelligence tend to be more physically brutal. So, that makes YOU of lesser intelligence. It was YOU, FATTY, that threatened to knock out my teeth and break my jaw. I never threatened you with physical violence, and only said that if you were to start shit with me, you'd regret it and you'd be the one who got hurt. So yup! You just said it yourself! You're of lesser intelligence because you're a violent person! I think kindergarten is calling you, Fat Shit. They see that you need help with your alphabet.
And again with the excuses after excuses. I DO NOT want to hear it anymore. I feel bad that it happened to you, I really do. But this is NOT an excuse for why you're a lazy piece of shit. Got it? MAKE SOMETHING OF YOURSELF. It's not too late. BE somebody, not just the bitter old man who complains about shit online.
Your last little paragraph again shows your tendency for violence. As a result, it shows your lack of intelligence, as you have even stated yourself. Way to show your stupidity, Fat Man!
Re: Am I Selfish?
Bad Religion: of course part of the problem is a product of sports culture. It's not the sports themselves, though. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the sports.
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However the sports culture is of course related to sports, so the problems within the sports culture shouldn't be ignored within the athletic community. Of course, these problems don't only exist in the sports culture, for example, celebrities have been known to get away with crimes easier than normal citizens. Nevertheless, the sports culture is flawed, and it is called the sports culture for a reason.Fit Man wrote:Bad Religion: of course part of the problem is a product of sports culture. It's not the sports themselves, though. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the sports.
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Actually, it should be called a sports cult!!!HugeFanOfBadReligion wrote:However the sports culture is of course related to sports, so the problems within the sports culture shouldn't be ignored within the athletic community. Of course, these problems don't only exist in the sports culture, for example, celebrities have been known to get away with crimes easier than normal citizens. Nevertheless, the sports culture is flawed, and it is called the sports culture for a reason.Fit Man wrote:Bad Religion: of course part of the problem is a product of sports culture. It's not the sports themselves, though. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the sports.
Anyway . . . on to other matters . . . . .
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Hey Fit shit you scum-bag piece of inhuman garbage!
If my getting beaten and bullied around was good enough for me, then you getting your teeth knocked out with a cane is good enough for you!
You seriously need to get your clock cleaned!
If not from me, then certainly from somebody else.
One of these days, mark my words, but if you go around speaking to other people out there in person as you had addressed me in these forum posts, somebody is going to push your teeth so far down your throat, you'll need to see a proctologist instead of a dentist to get your teeth fixed.
I hope somebody out there kicks your can up into your (brain?) case so hard you'll need to take off your hat to shine your shoes.
You would be damn lucky if somebody didn't rip your head off and shove it up your ass face first, and piss down your neck.
If I were sitting as a bus stop, and somebody called me a disgrace to humanity because I'm handicapped and overweight, he would get my cane across his teeth!
I guess that only sports fans and athletes may physically attack people and go unpunished.
But if I were to strike back, you would think that was wrong. Eh?
Yeah, other people may do to me as they wish.
But God forbid that I were ever to strike back.
Sorry, but I'm nobody's punching bag! Not any more!
Ya got that? JIMBO!!!

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Yeah, and to make matters worse, she has to pay $45,000 dollars in court costs, so her life is pretty much fuck up. She was probably a good student, with high grades and was probably looking forward to going to college after graduating high school. I'm merely speculating, of course.HugeFanOfBadReligion wrote:Fit Man, I hope you can see what is wrong with the sports culture that many people on this site criticize when you see the case of the cheerleader who refused to cheer for her rapist. How can a girl possibly be expected to do that? Is it really that important to have someone cheer for an athlete that they are willing to completely destroy the dignity of a human being for that purpose? Apparently so. There's so many things that are horribly wrong in that case, and it really isn't difficult to argue that many of those problems are a result of the sports culture. If the school administrators didn't think that athlete should be invulnerable to criticism (despite the fact that he's a rapist), the cheerleader wouldn't be forced to cheer for him or leave the team.
But now, she probably can't get a loan to cover the cost of going to a university, because she has this major debt to pay off so her life is pretty much put on hold.
Yeah, I was thinking about what Fit Shit posted last night.
I would like to see Fit Shit say that to the girl who was raped by the basketball player, that she should "stop whining" and "get over it" or some shit like that.[b][color=#FF00FF]Fit Shit[/color][/b] wrote:And yes, I still think you're a disgrace to humanity. You whine and bitch and moan about all supposed injustices you faced in your past and use that as an excuse for why you just sit on your ass all day instead of making a difference in the world. EVERYBODY had to deal with bullies, Fat Shit. Everyone. It's how we deal with the shit that happens in our lives that set us apart. Most people push through it and make something of themselves. An extreme example would be Bill Gates. There's no doubt he was the nerdy guy always picked on in school. But look where he is now. Then there's the average Joe, like myself. Yes, I was picked on. Hell, when I was a freshman in Cross Country football players always tried to intimidate us, and one even almost put me into his football locker. But guess what? I DEALT WITH IT. On the other you, YOU just whine and complain and blame your past as a reason why you're just a lazy piece of shit right now. Doesn't work that way. Don't act like you're the only one to have shit happen to you. You're just weak-willed and unable to pull through hard times, obviously.
Oh my! Don't ya just love these standard old clichés!!!
No, this goes way beyond mere bullying and name calling. Getting raped is a very traumatic event. I should know, because when I was 17 years old, I was beaten and raped by an older man. I became withdrawn, I didn't want to leave my room, I didn't feel like going out. I didn't know how to deal with it. This was back in 1969, back when nobody believed that a guy could get raped.
Now we know better. But back than, I could not get the psychological counseling that I needed. The shrinks just prescribed tranquilizers and sent me home, so I had to live with the memories and the nightmares. I was emotionally and mentally fucked up in the head, and that is why when I turned 18 my parents filed a disability claim on my behalf and why I started receiving SSI. Yeah, what is know as the "crazy check"! Uh huh!
Also, the part about being unable to pull through hard times, well, that student who was raped, and who has to pay $45,000 dollars in court costs, she's going to have to pull through some hard times ahead trying to pay off that debt. So, her life is put on hold.
No, what happened to me went way beyond merely being "picked on", like getting beaten and raped, and denied an education.
We don't all have the same life's experiences. Some of us have had it worse than others!
Some of us have had worse than name calling or just being picked on!
Try getting beaten and raped, and try not being allowed to attend school!!!
Bill Gates was never beaten and raped, and he was never kicked out of school. So, there's a big difference there.
How does one "pull through hard times" when being denied an education, when not being allowed to go back to school to finish one's education?
Go fuck yourself Fit Shit because you don't know what the Hell your talking about!

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I never threatened you with physical violence, you and you continue to do so. Under your own words, that makes you the less intelligent person.
Additionally, you ignore the rest of my post. Again, this shows how stupid you actually are.
Bad Religion: It's not inherently a part of the sport, though. So I don't see how that can be deemed "sports culture" as sports can still exist without it. Of course it needs to be addressed, but the sports themselves shouldn't be attacked. Also like you said, it's not even "sports culture" because similar things exist in other areas of the public domain.
Additionally, you ignore the rest of my post. Again, this shows how stupid you actually are.
Bad Religion: It's not inherently a part of the sport, though. So I don't see how that can be deemed "sports culture" as sports can still exist without it. Of course it needs to be addressed, but the sports themselves shouldn't be attacked. Also like you said, it's not even "sports culture" because similar things exist in other areas of the public domain.
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Fat Man, YOU are the one who obviously doesn't know what "hell" he's talking about. Your stupidity runs so far and deep that I feel dumber myself for reading each and every one of your posts. You are just a hateful person, even before I joined this forums you were full of hatred. Get over yourself and make something of your life before its too late.
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I don't see what you're getting at, but if you're saying sports culture isn't a part of sports because sports can exist without it, I'm not sure I follow. That's like saying rock music isn't part of music because music would still exist without rock. And actually, it still is sports culture, just because it exists elsewhere doesn't mean it isn't because of sports culture in some cases, as it would be less of a problem if the sports culture was different.Fit Man wrote:Bad Religion: It's not inherently a part of the sport, though. So I don't see how that can be deemed "sports culture" as sports can still exist without it. Of course it needs to be addressed, but the sports themselves shouldn't be attacked. Also like you said, it's not even "sports culture" because similar things exist in other areas of the public domain.
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I have earned the right to strike back![b][color=#FF00FF]Fit Shit[/color][/b] wrote:I never threatened you with physical violence, you and you continue to do so. Under your own words, that makes you the less intelligent person.
If you were to say to my face what you have been saying to me in these forum topics, you would get my cane across your teeth, and then you'll have to suck mush through a straw for the rest of your fucking pathetic little life after your jawbone was sent flying off across the room!
I ignore most of what you have to say, because it's mostly BULLSHIT!!![b][color=#FF00FF]Fit Shit[/color][/b] wrote:Additionally, you ignore the rest of my post. Again, this shows how stupid you actually are.
No, sports can not exist without the beatings and the bullying. That's what keeps sports going. It's a religious cult that requires human sacrifices.[b][color=#FF00FF]Fit Shit[/color][/b] wrote:Bad Religion: It's not inherently a part of the sport, though. So I don't see how that can be deemed "sports culture" as sports can still exist without it. Of course it needs to be addressed, but the sports themselves shouldn't be attacked. Also like you said, it's not even "sports culture" because similar things exist in other areas of the public domain.
Yeah, sort of like the Catholic church, that could not survive without the Inquisition.
Yes, the Catholic church now accepts evolution, rather grudgingly, and has officially apologized for it's treatment of Galileo, but the Catholic is still no friend of science. It's against stem cell research, birth control, developing a vaccine to prevent HIV, and it was against the vaccine to fight small pox.
Oh, and incidentally!
The Holy Office of The Inquisition still exists.
Only now, it's been renamed Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
So, nothing has really changed.
And the so-called sports culture is really a sports cult, a religion that demands human sacrifices! It's anti-education, anti-science, and anti-art. It demands more and more pay for professional jocks while the rest of us only gets some chump change.
Something is seriously wrong when a professional football player gets paid 5 million dollars per year just for chasing a ball while a college professor who teaches physics in a university is lucky to get paid $100,000 dollars per year.
And athletic students in our schools get extra privileges while students with physical handicaps get discriminated against.
No, sports is a dangerous religious cult!
And, you're a part of the whole fucking mess!
So, you may just fuck off, eat shit, crawl into a sewer, and DIE!!!

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I could say the same, applying the same things you just stated. Everytime I've posted criticizing anything you have said "IN A CIVIL MANNER" you've responded with insults towards me, so Fat Man, does that give me the right to resort to "hitting"? I guess not...Fat Man wrote: I have earned the right to strike back!
This is not true on so many levels, Bullies come from mostly anything, a chubby kid with a bad attitude can be a bully and not be a sportps player, It's the person who decides to become a bully.Fat Man wrote: No, sports can not exist without the beatings and the bullying. That's what keeps sports going. It's a religious cult that requires human sacrifices.
The only thing sports does to promote bullying is that it gives those who resort to it the physical superiority over less physical fit person. Example: a student who doesn't play any sports, but works out in his home could very well bully anyone since he's more stronger. ULTIMATELY is the person's MORAL VALUES that make him become either a kind person or an asshole.
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For a guy who's as gentle as I am, reading this thread is depressing ...
But I competely agree with this statement.

And now I shall go take ...

... a dandelion break.

But I competely agree with this statement.
Weltall gets the Good Guy Award for the week.Weltall wrote:... Bullies come from mostly anything, a chubby kid with a bad attitude can be a bully and not be a sportps player, It's the person who decides to become a bully.
The only thing sports does to promote bullying is that it gives those who resort to it the physical superiority over less physical fit person. Example: a student who doesn't play any sports, but works out in his home could very well bully anyone since he's more stronger. ULTIMATELY is the person's MORAL VALUES that make him become either a kind person or an asshole.

And now I shall go take ...

... a dandelion break.
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It isn't just what the person learns in an intellectual way, though.Weltall wrote:This is not true on so many levels, Bullies come from mostly anything, a chubby kid with a bad attitude can be a bully and not be a sportps player, It's the person who decides to become a bully.
The only thing sports does to promote bullying is that it gives those who resort to it the physical superiority over less physical fit person. Example: a student who doesn't play any sports, but works out in his home could very well bully anyone since he's more stronger. ULTIMATELY is the person's MORAL VALUES that make him become either a kind person or an asshole.
When someone plays a sport like American football, it conditions violence and aggression into the person.
That violence can spill over into everyday life.
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Well, That's what I have done this evening, just now.recovering_fan wrote:I am issuing an advisory on Fit Man.
Go to his Profile page. Hit "Add Foe." Ya' won't see him any more.
It's what I'm now going to do.
--RF
I'm sick and tired of seeing any more retarded bullshit from Fit Shit!
So, I clicked on his user name, and added foe!
The foe function comes in really handy.
I like to call it the [STICK YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR EARS AND GO LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU] function!
So, now he is no more than a buzzing fly. Actually, more like a buzzing little mosquito that I can barely hear now.
No, more like a tiny little gnat that I can't hear at all anymore!
So, little Fit Shit can just buzz off!!!
Also . . . . .
When ever I notice that Fit Shit has posted something, even though I can see it anymore, I'm simply going to respond, thus!

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