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Finally! Other people in Britain are beginning to see sense!

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The Fiver doesn't wash. The Fiver is frequently forced to expose itself in public. The Fiver, in this regard, is probably like you. And your children. Because though it boasts some of the richest sports clubs on the planet, Britain doesn't bother looking after the vast majority of its sports-participating people. Yes, while every hamlet in France, Germany, Holland and the rest of the civilised world is equipped with changing rooms, showers, pitches, swimming pools and so on, sporty folks in Blighty must spend their weekends attempting to peel off their shorts with frigid fingers while trying not to slip in cow pat. And as for what to do when you need to have a whizz or empty your bowels before a game, well, let's just say the Fiver has frightened more than a few Sunday drivers in its time ...


Football clubs, of course, are the most wealthy in the land, yet in spite of all the money sloshing around the game, facilities in most places are roughly on a par with those for dog fighting and camel wrestling. That is not quite what the Tory MP for Kettering, Philip Hollobone, complained about to parliament today but it should have been. Instead he took only a tentative step in the right direction: "Premier League footballers are vastly overpaid, Premier League clubs are hugely in debt, our national team is, in many ways, a disgrace," Hollobone exclusively revealed to Westminister. "Meanwhile, in the real world with clubs like Kettering Town football club in the non-league, they are struggling to provide suitable ground facilities despite massive fan support," continued Hollobone before asking his colleague and sports minister Hugh Robertson: "Would you agree with me that football in this country at the moment faces an unsustainable future unless the issues of governance are properly sorted out?"


"If you look across sport, it is very clear to me that football is the worst governed sport in this country, without a shadow of a doubt," replied Robertson as several MPs who weren't asleep belched in agreement. Robertson then declared that he would await the findings of a culture, media and sport select committee report before deciding what to do. "Action is needed and the government will take it but it wants to see the results of that select committee first," trumpeted Robertson. Hands up who thinks a Tory government will demand not merely that clubs run themselves properly but actually ensure more of their wealth trickles down to the grassroots? Perhaps that could help fill the funding gap that will be exacerbated by the Tories' planned cuts? Or does the Tory plan for preventing children from playing sport in primitive conditions simply consist of preventing them from playing sport full stop?
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I am so glad that finally, people in this country are beginning to acknowledge how wasteful and overfunded this "national game" of ours is. The people who fund all this are happy to throw millions of pounds at the players who really aren't going to be able to use all that money and could probably get by perfectly well on about 5% of their wages, but they can't even provide decent facilities for their fans and players to watch and play in. It is good to see that all this money is being invested in the wrong places and that the need for reform in this game is being acknowledged. I expect to see no immediate results, but if The Guardian is onto it, you can tell that it is a serious issue. So it bloody well should be, with all this money flying around. If I were calling the shots, I would literally be making even the best footballers of this country work proper jobs to fund their lives in the time they're not on the football field, but people don't like a guy who rocks the boat too much, so we're going to have to see how our current politicians do so. This probably won't be of interest to the American members of this forum but as Britain is going through a recession at the moment, it is good to know that all the money that is being wastefully thrown at the football industry is being acknowledged as not serving a good purpose. We need to channel a lot of these pounds into solving the country's real problems.

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Now, I only wish that here in the USA we would also come to our senses.

You would think that football would be self supporting.

But NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The curriculum in our high schools has been dumbed down to make it easier for the jocks to get passing grades so they can play football.

Homes have been bulldozed to make room for new sports stadiums and their parking lots, so we all have to pay for sports here in the USA whether we participate or watch or NOT!

Football could easily support itself with the outrageously high prices they charge in the stadiums for hot dogs and beer.

I mean, like, really!

Here in El Paso, when I was at the Don Haskins Sports Center to attend the graduation of the daughter of my health care worker, they wanted to charge me $3.25 just for a cup of water!

Sports fans must be incredibly stupid if they're willing to pay such ridiculously high prices.

But then, who says the sports fans are bright?

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Disturbing images from Cleveland:

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(I should add that these dog-like creatures are not the norm in Cleveland. They have a special section to themselves.)
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I just hope they have been vaccinated against Rabies.

Actually, I would call the city dog pound and have these rabid mutts put to sleep!

I notice that most of the seat in the stadium are empty.

Not very many spectators. Usually the stadiums are filled to capacity.

Could it be, that football is finally dying?

One can only hope.
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Well, Fat Man, to be honest, I'm sure there have been many articles in the past that have highlighted faults with the state of sports in Britain. Any politician with half a brain would know that cutting back substantially on the amount of money invested in promoting and organising professional sports would prove to be a real benefit to financial problems in this country. If I became prime minister, I would see to it that major cuts were made in the professional sports industry. I would see to it that these million-pound salaries for the top players were cut so far down that these damn players would have to work proper jobs during the week to earn their keep. The idiots running our country wonder why there's hardly any money going round, and in the newspapers alongside all these tales of financial struggle, we hear about these dickhead football managers throwing millions of pounds away to buy some "excellent" player they really want for their club. OH, THE IRONY! Professional sports are definitely not sustainable! There is so much more I can say on this subject, but I'm not going to bore you all with it now - suffice it to say, as long as these obscene amounts of money are being thrown around in the sports industry like they mean nothing, there are going to be damn financial problems in this country! Big ones!

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i_like_1981 wrote:Any politician with half a brain would know that cutting back substantially on the amount of money invested in promoting and organising professional sports would prove to be a real benefit to financial problems in this country. If I became prime minister, I would see to it that major cuts were made in the professional sports industry. I would see to it that these million-pound salaries for the top players were cut so far down that these damn players would have to work proper jobs during the week to earn their keep.
Really? But the government doesn't determine people's salaries in a free market economy; supply and demand do that.

Anyhow, if Britain is actually subsidising its professional sports industry in any way, then I would agree that the budget for that should be cut. Major cuts? How about cuts of 100%!
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i_like_1981 wrote:Any politician with half a brain would know that cutting back substantially on the amount of money invested in promoting and organising professional sports would prove to be a real benefit to financial problems in this country. If I became prime minister, I would see to it that major cuts were made in the professional sports industry. I would see to it that these million-pound salaries for the top players were cut so far down that these damn players would have to work proper jobs during the week to earn their keep.
Really? But the government doesn't determine people's salaries in a free market economy; supply and demand do that.

Anyhow, if Britain is actually subsidising its professional sports industry in any way, then I would agree that the budget for that should be cut. Major cuts? How about cuts of 100%!
How about cutting the sports subsidies 200% and make those sorry-ass fuckers pay back what they have been sucking off of us all these decades!

Yeah!The payback's a bitch!!!
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Recovering_fan, in response to your comment about the government not being able to impose any control over the obscene salaries of these football players, I think that they're going to have to get more involved on this issue and start substantially cutting these players' salaries or raising their taxes. A substantial change in either one of those areas would suit me. I suppose that I shouldn't be so bold as to blame the sports industry for creating all these financial problems, though. No, our country is not helped by the fact we've got people all around the country trying to claim benefits because they're too LAZY to work. I can accept it if the person has a physical or mental illness or disability, but I've read many stories about people who have lied to the government to claim benefits they really shouldn't be getting, and thankfully, a lot of them get found out. But I'm sure there are more people doing that sort of stuff right now, making money for no good reason. Basically, our country is in a bad financial position now, it needs sorting out, and one of the ways to do that would be to divert some of the incredible wealth of the sports industry, something that has become too big in my opinion, towards solving more important financial issues for the country.

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Good to see the politicians are looking at it. Footballers along with the bankers are the most overpaid people on the earth.

Speaking about football and politics, can anyone tell me why Clarke Carlisle was on Question Time last Thursday? Though wondering why he was there was a welcome break from having to listen to Alistair Campbell and George Galloway.
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Lewis wrote:Good to see the politicians are looking at it. Footballers along with the bankers are the most overpaid people on the earth.
The politicians MENTIONED it. Knowing the ones over here in Britain, I doubt anything will be done to solve this problem. Our politicians have a notorious reputation for not sticking to what they say and suddenly reversing themselves - I'm sure people like Wayne Rooney haven't got anything to worry about. Their enormous cash cows have plenty of milk in them left. Well, they sure would have a problem if I became Prime Minister. :D

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recovering_fan wrote:Disturbing images from Cleveland:

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(I should add that these dog-like creatures are not the norm in Cleveland. They have a special section to themselves.)
Ack! Now you know what it feels like to live in Cleveland! LOL

For those who don't know, a section of the Cleveland Browns stadium is known as the "Dawg Pound". I believe it's at one end of the field, so when the opposing team gets close to scoring, they'll be intimidated by all the fans wearing dog masks (oops, I meant "dawg" masks -- have to spell it right...LOL) and barking like "dawgs". On several occasions, fans have thrown dog biscuits onto the field, either in celebration of something or in protest. (Ever notice how sports fans just like to throw things, whether they're happy or unhappy?)

I have no idea how the "Dawg Pound" idea got started (nothing in the team's nickname or history seems to suggest a connection with dogs), but apparently there's some local village idiot who is the "Head Dawg" and leads the rest of the crowd in all these antics.
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ChrisOH wrote:Ack! Now you know what it feels like to live in Cleveland! LOL

For those who don't know, a section of the Cleveland Browns stadium is known as the "Dawg Pound". I believe it's at one end of the field, so when the opposing team gets close to scoring, they'll be intimidated by all the fans wearing dog masks (oops, I meant "dawg" masks -- have to spell it right...LOL) and barking like "dawgs". On several occasions, fans have thrown dog biscuits onto the field, either in celebration of something or in protest. (Ever notice how sports fans just like to throw things, whether they're happy or unhappy?)

I have no idea how the "Dawg Pound" idea got started (nothing in the team's nickname or history seems to suggest a connection with dogs), but apparently there's some local village idiot who is the "Head Dawg" and leads the rest of the crowd in all these antics.

That's DAWGS. Learn to spell. :wink:

They probably felt they had to come up with some kind of symbol or something to distinguish their boring team that has a boring name and boring plain orange helmets with no logo. :P
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recovering_fan wrote:Disturbing images from Cleveland:

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Are you sure that number 98 isn't one of the players? He looks content. I'm happy for him and his pal.
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abitagirl wrote:
ChrisOH wrote:Ack! Now you know what it feels like to live in Cleveland! LOL

For those who don't know, a section of the Cleveland Browns stadium is known as the "Dawg Pound". I believe it's at one end of the field, so when the opposing team gets close to scoring, they'll be intimidated by all the fans wearing dog masks (oops, I meant "dawg" masks -- have to spell it right...LOL) and barking like "dawgs". On several occasions, fans have thrown dog biscuits onto the field, either in celebration of something or in protest. (Ever notice how sports fans just like to throw things, whether they're happy or unhappy?)

I have no idea how the "Dawg Pound" idea got started (nothing in the team's nickname or history seems to suggest a connection with dogs), but apparently there's some local village idiot who is the "Head Dawg" and leads the rest of the crowd in all these antics.

That's DAWGS. Learn to spell. :wink:

They probably felt they had to come up with some kind of symbol or something to distinguish their boring team that has a boring name and boring plain orange helmets with no logo. :P
And boxing is supposed to be spelled bocksing!
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That's right, young man; and don't you forget it! :mrgreen:



Ah, choo-choo_boy! :) *sigh* Those were the days. :wink:
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