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GOOD NEWS!!! Science Education Triumphs in Texas!

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YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAA!!!

WELL!!! GOOD NEWS YO' ALL!!!

Here in the Lone Star State of Texas, we all just sent dem dar Creationist folks a packin'!

Like, they is outta here!!!


OK, enough of the redneck lingo, now, back to proper grammar usage.

I just got this in my E-mail from the Texas Freedom Network, the TFN INSIDER with the following link:

http://tfninsider.org/2011/07/22/tfn-st ... ence-vote/
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Science Education Triumphs in Texas
By TFN

Moments ago TFN released the following statement on the vote this morning at the State Board of Education:

TEXAS FREEDOM NETWORK STATEMENT
TFN PRESIDENT KATHY MILLER: TEXAS KIDS, SOUND SCIENCE EDUCATION TRIUMPH IN SBOE VOTE

New Instructional Materials Teach Sound Evolutionary Science

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

July 22, 2011

Today the State Board of Education voted to adopt the Texas education commissionerâ??s recommended list of science instructional materials. Special interest groups and activists off the state board failed in their efforts to force publishers to change their instructional materials to include arguments against evolutionary science. In addition, the board voted unanimously to reject the adoption of instructional materials from a New Mexico-based vendor that promoted â??intelligent designâ?/creationism.

The following statement is from TFN President Kathy Miller:

â??Today we saw Texas kids and sound science finally win a vote on the State Board of Education. Now our public schools can focus on teaching their students fact-based science that will prepare them for college and a 21st-century economy. And our schoolchildren wonâ??t be held hostage to bad decisions made by a politicized board that adopted flawed science curriculum standards two years ago. Moreover, today we saw that the far rightâ??s stranglehold over the state board is finally loosening after last yearâ??s elections. Thatâ??s very good news for public education in Texas.â?

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The Texas Freedom Network is a nonpartisan education and religious liberties watchdog. The grassroots organization of religious and community leaders support public education, religious freedom and individual liberties.
Well, this is certainly some good NEWS! Eh?

OK. Since Charles Darwin's theory of Evolution will now be taught in science classes, then I guess, that in our history textbooks, Thomas Jefferson is not expelled anymore, that he also gets to go back to school again, and also, sex education will be properly implemented.

So, welcome back Charley and Jeffy!!!

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Ah! Good to see ya guys again! Welcome back! I love ya!

Anyway . . . . . . .

At the TFN web site you can also post comments.

Here is a sample of some reader comments.

OK, some moron posted the following . . .

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mcoville Says:
July 22, 2011 at 11:34 am

I weep for the lost of intelligence in America. Kids are being taught what to think and not how to think.

I pray that those cheering this decision will understand the damage they are doing to the children. Thanks to actions like this we seeing a dumbing down of a younger generation that one day will lead this nation, and God help us when they do.
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And some readers posted in response to mcoville

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Ralph Arvesen Says:
July 22, 2011 at 11:58 am

mcoville â?? thanks for the comment, can you please expand on some of your comments?

â??Kids are being taught what to think and not how to think.â?
I donâ??t understand, kids are being taught science facts, if the facts change, what they will be taught will change. Or are you suggesting since science facts contradict your religious views, they should not be taught in public schools?

â??we seeing a dumbing down of a younger generationâ?
Can you expand on how teaching science facts dumbs down the younger generation?

If it was up to you, how would a 7th grade public school science teacher answer the following student questions?

1) How old is the earth?
2) Is evolution true?
3) Did humans evolve?

Thanks again for posting your thoughts / comment.
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The next response is even better.

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der Brat Says:
July 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

To mcoville: I suppose you also mourn the absence of stork theory in sex-ed classes, no tooth fairy in economics class, and no flat earth in geography lessons. Yes, for some itâ??s a sad day when science classes have to stick to science and not superstitious fantasy.
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I'll skip some of the responses and go to the ones that are choice. I'm only going to post the comments that are in response to mcoville

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Lorenzo Sadun Says:
July 22, 2011 at 12:52 pm

To mcoville: Students *certainly* need to review the evidence, and not just take evolution on faith. That would be as bad as taking creationism on faith. But they donâ??t need to have a lot of bogus arguments about â??gaps in the fossil recordâ? or â??irreducible complexityâ? thrown at them, and they donâ??t need to have the actual data censored (e.g., what the social conservatives tried to force Holt to do).

What the social conservatives are trying to push isnâ??t thoughtful analysis or clarity. Just the opposite. Theyâ??re merely trying to muddy the waters, so the whole question of evolution descends into a â??he said, she saidâ? narrative, with lots of doubt and little understanding. Thankfully, the board majority rejected that approach.

For the record, there *are* gaps in the fossil record, and irreducible complexity is an interesting concept that sheds light on how evolution follows certain pathways and not others. However, most of the gaps that creationists cite have long been filled, and the biological features that are claimed to be irreducibly complex flat-out arenâ??t. Iâ??d be happy to provide more detail if youâ??re interested.
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I skip some more comments and go on to the next really good one.

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Randy L Benson Says:
July 22, 2011 at 2:20 pm

mcoville: facts are stubborn things; they donâ??t go away when they conflict with your views. or mine.

this decision means that children will learn how to think. they will learn the way things occurred, rather than depending on magic. the place for religion is in church or religious schools; not in public schools and not in science classes.

if religion wishes to intrude in the classrooms, they should do so sensibly: as a course in comparative religions. although most citizens of this country identify with Christianity, all religions are equal in the eyes of government. . .and possibly God as well. no religion should dominate public policy, unless you wish to start us down a road which will end up as another Iran.
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The next one is the last response to mcoville

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Beverly Kurtin Says:
July 22, 2011 at 2:38 pm

Oh how I wish I had been able to be there. Unfortunately, this heat is forcing me to stay inside. First, YIPPIE! And congratulations to TFN for leading the good fight for intelligence. Funny-mentalists will have to move onto other areas such as how Adam and Eve were supposedly created in what today is Iran when science has proven that human life began in Africa. der Brat, your comments were beautiful; I wish I had said what you did.

mcoville is a far right wingnut. Click on his name to see the proof of that statement. He hates Obama and Progressivesâ?¦why is it that people like that think that children must be fed fairy tales in school? He said, â??I pray that those cheering this decision will understand the damage they are doing to the children. Thanks to actions like this we seeing a dumbing down of a younger generation that one day will lead this nation, and God help us when they do.â? Iâ??d like to know how lying to our children is harming them. You want children to believe that rabbits lay multicolored eggs? Do you know that the Hebrew word Pesach was deliberately mistranslated to Easter to bring pagan influences to Christianity? The goddess Ishtar was the goddess of fertility. What procreates faster than rabbits? Telling that lie to kids IS harming them; telling the truth does not.

The damage that was being proposed would damage our children beyond measure and the â??dumbing downâ? is precisely what people like you wish to do. Can anyone with a functioning brain imagine what would happen to a Texas child when attempting to attend a university first heard about evolution in a college class? When he or she said â??No, that is not right! God took some dust and breathed it into it and life happened.â? When the class stopped laughing, I wonder how that â??dumbed downâ? child would feel?

I have studied the Tenach and the Christian books for over 40 years in an attempt to square them with reality. The conclusion I came to was that it was IMPOSSIBLE TO READ THOSE BOOKS LITERALLY. ALL WHO ATTEMPT TO DO THAT IS A MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON.

The Amish teach their kids that the earth if flat because one tiny portion of the books say â??the four corners of the earth.â? The problem is that the word is a Hebrew word, KANAPH. It means â??extremityâ? or â??the endsâ? not â??corners,â? yet Amish use the few places in which the word kanaph is used to mean â??corners.â? A youngster who was on his break from the Amish community saw a picture of the earth taken from space to show one of the Amish leaders that the earth was round. The kid was so badly beaten that he almost died. Yeah, thatâ??s the ticket, he really go dumbed down.

Jehovahâ??s Witnesses read that Leviticus 17 said not to eat blood. That was written to the Jewish people, not the world as a whole. But they wonâ??t take a transfusion because they think it is â??eating blood.â? And the word used in that particular chapter is translated as â??abominationâ? which Christians use to damn homosexuals.

I have visited some churches from time-to-time because a friend had asked me to attend their place of worship. I damned near choked to death when the preacher not only mispronounced a Greek word, but gave a totally impossible â??translationâ? of the word; he even misused the tense and voice! My friend asked, â??Isnâ??t he great?â? My answer was to get up and leave. Improper translations, incomprehensible pronunciations are used in by supposedly wise people who donâ??t know an Aleph from an Alpha.

Iâ??m almost done, I just have to thank all who spoke to the board for bringing sense into our schools and to TFN for leading the good fight.
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NOTE:

I high-lighted the part about the Amish boy in red text.

It's tragic that some children here in the USA are getting nearly beaten to death, and some children have died from the beatings by religious fundamentalists.

Yeah! A child gets beaten by elders who believe the earth is flat!

Only in America!

But, that's not at all surprising, especially when I remember back when I was in the 5th grade, I had my head bashed against the corner of a concrete block wall by a sports obsessed teacher in an argument over an astronomy book that he did not want me to check out from the school library.

I could have easily died from my head injuries!

Well, anyway . . . . .

I'm very happy this evening that the ultra-conservative Funny-mentalists Fairytale Believers have been defeated by the more moderate members of our Texas State Board of Education.

Last year, Chairman Don McLeroy was voted out of the Texas State Board of Education and sent packing l, and hopefully, the present Chairwoman Barbara Cargill will also be sent packing because she's just as bad as Don McLeroy. She was appointed to the board by Texas Governor Rick Perry, another right-wing-nut Christard Funny-mentalist who is a devout racist and homophobic fascist!

It's beginning to look like more and more Texans are starting to WAKE UP!!!

OK, to all the moronic Fairytale Believers out there . . . . .

Sorry to have to disappoint yo' all but . . . . .

A man was NOT made from a lump of dirt, a woman was NOT made from one of his ribs, men and woman both have the same number of ribs, there was no magic garden with a magic tree with magical fruit they weren't suppose to eat, and there was no talking snake with legs that tempted them to eat said magical fruit.

Also . . . . .

The earth is NOT a mere 6000 years old!

THE EARTH IS 4.5 BILLION YEARS OLD, AND THE UNIVERSE IS ABOUT 12 BILLION YEARS OLD!!!

Get this into your pointed little heads, ya morons!!!

EVOLUTION IS A FACT! GET OVER IT!

And sorry to have to further disappoint yo' all, but . . . . .

There is no Santa Clause!
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There is no Easter Bunny!
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There is no Tooth Fairy!
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And the stork does not bring you your babies!

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NO! We need to teach sex education in our schools, and not just "abstinence based" either, we need to teach ALL THE SCIENTIFIC BIOLOGICAL FACTS about sex, including birth control, and how to avoid sexually transmissible diseases, including the use of the condom.

FACT!!!

In states that teach ALL THE FACTS in sex education, those states have THE LOWEST RATES of unwanted teen pregnancies.

But, in states that teach no sex education, or "abstinence based" only, those states have THE HIGHEST RATES of unwanted teen pregnancies.

FULL KNOWLEDGE is the best way to reduce the numbers of unwanted teen pregnancies and sexually transmissible disease.

IGNORANCE is the best way to increase the numbers of unwanted teen pregnancies and sexually transmissible disease.

IGNORANCE KILLS!!!

Also, ignorant people kill!!!

So, now that the anti-evolutionists have been roundly and soundly defeated . . . . .

The next thing on the agenda is to implement a scientific fact based sex education in our schools with all the facts of human biology being taught in the classroom.

HEY! It's our bodies! Right?

So, why should knowledge of our very own bodies be kept a secrete from us? Eh?

And so, I say to all of you drooling moronic right-wing Funny-mentalist Fairytale Believers out there . . .

Pack your Gucci bags and . . .

HIT THE FUCKING ROAD!!!
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I never understood what's the trouble of having them together instead of separated, I mean what could be the harm, the kid ould choose one or the other, I for one, got taught that way, and resulted in knowing that indeed evolution is real, heck I love astronomy and all the facts it carries, and I also believe in God, well not the way others do, but there must be something that made it all start, facts can only help you at some point, and besides spirituality has a good side even if it is all made up, it makes persons strive to be good persons, caring, loving, what's the harm in that, anyhow my 2 cents.
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Fat Man wrote:who believe the earth is flat!
and some people do, Amazing :roll:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/

Note: they do have a forum, but they're so stubborn like you that they don't just believe the earth is flat, They know it's flat.
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Weltall wrote:I never understood what's the trouble of having them together instead of separated, I mean what could be the harm, the kid ould choose one or the other, I for one, got taught that way, and resulted in knowing that indeed evolution is real, heck I love astronomy and all the facts it carries, and I also believe in God, well not the way others do, but there must be something that made it all start, facts can only help you at some point, and besides spirituality has a good side even if it is all made up, it makes persons strive to be good persons, caring, loving, what's the harm in that, anyhow my 2 cents.
Sorry Jimbo Bubbah Booey, but NO!

You don't teach Astrology in an Astronomy class, you don't teach the flat earth in a Geography class, you don't teach Alchemy in a Chemistry class, or magic in a Physics class, or Phrenology in a class on neuroscience, and also . . . NO CREATIONISM in a class on Biology, Paleontology, or in any science class in the name of "letting the students decide for themselves" which one to believe.

You teach science, and SCIENCE ONLY, in a science class. This "giving equal time to both sides of the controversy" is nothing more than pure fucking BULLSHIT!!!

Ya got that? JIMBO!!!

There are many different creation stories, many different versions from different religions, and to be fair, you would have to give equal time to all of them, and that is not feasible.

In science, only the scientific facts should be taught.

Now, I would favor having a separate class for the study of Theology where the creation story could be discussed.

But science and religion must be separate endeavors.

No, science is not out to prove that there is no God. The existence of God can not be proven or dis-proven. Science can only deal with the physical universe, and how it works, and the supernatural can not be tested in a lab. Only physical phenomena can be tested, and measured.

So, anything that is not science has no business in a science class.
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Fat Man wrote:who believe the earth is flat!
and some people do, Amazing :roll:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/

Note: they do have a forum, but they're so stubborn like you that they don't just believe the earth is flat, They know it's flat.
Yes, I have known about the Flat Earth Society for years. They're all a bunch of nut-cases.

Yeah! I'm stubborn alright!

When I was in high school back in 1969, my so-called science teacher was also the school's football coach, and he was too fucking busy coaching his team of pre-frontally lobotomized baboons to teach science, so instead, he would set up the movie projector, and leave the classroom, and we would all be sitting in the dark watching stupid cartoons, when I wanted to learn science.

Yeah! I wanted to learn science, DAMN IT! Not watch a bunch of stupid cartoons!

Of course, I imagine the Creationists in my town were very happy about that!

Yeah! Like, lets teach our high school kids how to fold paper footballs and let them watch cartoons instead o' dem learnin' dat thar EVILution!!!

Well, FUCK THAT REDNECK BULLSHIT!!!

You guys seriously need to go back to Kindergarten or something!

FUCKING RETARDS!!!
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ok, obviously you can't teach them on the same classroom, I meant that you could teach both on the school, not subject them to 1 view only, and I think you can learn from both of them. My bad for not actually stating it (I thought that was the logical way to do it - Separate classes)
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I'm glad you've chosen to continue posting in our forum. Please don't be discouraged by the negative feedback. That's just part of board messaging. Of course, you probably already knew that.
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Fat Man wrote:You guys seriously need to go back to Kindergarten or something!

FUCKING RETARDS!!!
geez Calm yourself down, Do you have problems with anger management? I'm starting to think that you're a Jock :roll:

Laters, Fat Man
Weltall wrote:ok, obviously you can't teach them on the same classroom, I meant that you could teach both on the school, not subject them to 1 view only, and I think you can learn from both of them. My bad for not actually stating it (I thought that was the logical way to do it - Separate classes)
I'm an Atheist myself. I don't consider any religion is the way to go, as most people seem to held one just to have a reason to live, the only good thing it can come from it it's the "be a good person" commandments, but even so... a lot of damage has been done to Humanity's progress throught History. Be it the Crusades, the Jihad, the Inquisition, etc.

There's just us. till we find alien life... plus the Bible contradicts itself a lot.

but hey Dictatorship is never good, so having to choose from two isn't bad either.

I Support you.
Earl wrote:I'm glad you've chosen to continue posting in our forum. Please don't be discouraged by the negative feedback. That's just part of board messaging. Of course, you probably already knew that.
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i_like_1981 wrote:I respect a person who uses the knowledge they have of our language to come onto a forum with an opposing view and attempt to have a decent discussion. He's trying his best. Defend your points all you want, Fat Man, but it's unfair to insult his English skills when he's not a native speaker and is trying his hardest to communicate with us.
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Fat Man wrote:
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:shock: Poor Earl is at a loss of words. :( A greater man than he is required to make much comment at all, except to say that Fat Man has a "thing" with axes in the head. :lol: My, oh my ... I don't know how to react to this one. Lizzie Borden, look out! :o



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Brigan wrote:
Fat Man wrote:You guys seriously need to go back to Kindergarten or something! FUCKING RETARDS!!!
geez Calm yourself down, Do you have problems with anger management? I'm starting to think that you're a Jock :roll: Laters, Fat Man
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Earl wrote:I'm glad you've chosen to continue posting in our forum. Please don't be discouraged by the negative feedback. That's just part of board messaging. Of course, you probably already knew that.
:mrgreen:
:lol:
Honesty, I don't know what to say. I just don't want the poor boy to join the ranks of those who've been driven away from this website for one reason or another. We need all the active members we can get. Oh, well, at least I'm not bored like I was when all I was doing was banning spammers and sometimes e-mailing them insulting messages. :)
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You should get a helping Hand Earl.
i_like_1981 wrote:I respect a person who uses the knowledge they have of our language to come onto a forum with an opposing view and attempt to have a decent discussion. He's trying his best. Defend your points all you want, Fat Man, but it's unfair to insult his English skills when he's not a native speaker and is trying his hardest to communicate with us.
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How true! How true! :lol: IMHO I_like_1981 would have been great as a moderator, but he got discouraged and left. I get frustrated with board messaging in general, what with being personally attacked without provocation and all. (I'm referring to another website now.) But I won't quit as a moderator of this forum because if I did, the website would get hurt (not meaning to sound like I think I'm important). I won't quit because I believe there's got to be at least one website for those alienated by the sports culture, especially kids.
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Earl wrote:Note: Dagnabbit! As is quite obvious (see above), I don't know how to "quote" attachments (if you know what I mean).
Sorry, but you can't quote attachments.

I don't know exactly why.

The reason why I put those up as attachments is because the Photobucket web site deletes certain inappropriate images.

The one with the stork, I had to host on Photobucket because you can't put up more than three attachments in a single post.

The owners or moderators at Photobucket might not delete the one with the stork, but they probably would delete the Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy ones because they're more graphic than the one with the stork.

Seeing a bird get butchered is one thing, but seeing people get butchered is another thing entirely.

Well, I hope they don't decide to delete the stork, else, I'll have to host that image somewhere else.
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Well, I have to admit the image of the stork getting it in the neck does look funny. :)

I hope there aren't any stork lovers out there. :mrgreen:
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Earl wrote:Well, I have to admit the image of the stork getting it in the neck does look funny. :)

I hope there aren't any stork lovers out there. :mrgreen:
Yeah, but I especially liked doing my hatchet job on Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy.

Well, anyway . . .

. . . getting back on topic again . . .
Brigan wrote:
Fat Man wrote:You guys seriously need to go back to Kindergarten or something!

FUCKING RETARDS!!!
geez Calm yourself down, Do you have problems with anger management? I'm starting to think that you're a Jock :roll:

Laters, Fat Man
No, I don't have a problem with anger management. My anger is justified. I'm righteously pissed!!!

Anger management is just another bullshit way of saying, suck it up! Another words, it's like we're not suppose to express our displeasure with the way thing are, that we're suppose to eat the bullshit being fed to us by right-wing Christard Funny-mentalists, Republicans, sports fans, and jocks.

I have a damn good reason to be angry!

The quality of education in the USA has been going down the crapper for decades. We have dumbed down the curriculum to make it easier for jocks to get passing grades so they may be allowed to get on the football team. We go out of our way to make it easier for jocktards and granting extra privileges to all these drooling moronic slope-headed, slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, stooped-shouldered, knuckle-dragging baboons with shit-for-brains!

Here is how the quality of education in the USA compares to other countries.

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Our schools care more about athletics than academics. As I had mentions before, back in 1969 when I was in high school, my science teacher was also the football coach, and since he was too busy coaching his team, he would set up a movie projector, then leave the classroom, and left us in the dark watching stupid cartoons when I wanted to learn science. So, all we did was watch cartoons and learn how to fold paper footballs.

Yeah! Excellent preparation for the future! Eh?

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In grade school, I got suspended because I failed to climb a rope in the gymnasium. It didn't matter that I was passing all my other academic subjects. No, sports was more important! The reason why I was unable to climb the rope was because when I was 4 years old, I was in a car accident, and my left knee was crippled up as a result, so when I was in school, during gym class, I was unable to run, and I walked with a limp. I should have been exempted from taking PE, but this was back in the 1960s when our schools were all Gung Ho about physical fitness and sports, so I was often humiliated in front of the other kids in the gymnasium.

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My 5th grade teacher, who was a real sports fanatic, one day he punched me in the stomach as hard as he could with a basketball, and it seemed like an eternity before I was able to breath again. He could have easily cracked my ribs. He was the same teacher who bashed my head against the corner of a concrete block wall in an argument over an Astronomy book that he would not allow me to check out from the school library.

So, yeah! I think I have every right to be angry, because over the years, I was powerless to do anything about the situation and could only stand by helplessly and watch as America went down the crapper!

And now, we have all these wight-wing freakozoids in the Retardican party, and all these moronic Chriistard Funny-mentalists wanting to insert Creationist fairy-tales into school science books.

Fortunately, the more moderate members of our Texas State Board of Education have won, and have sent these Funny-mentalist Cristard members of the board packing! These morons were out-voted!

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So now, we are finally going to get REAL SCIENCE textbooks back into our school science classes again are are not watered-down with and Creationist bullshit.
Weltall wrote:ok, obviously you can't teach them on the same classroom, I meant that you could teach both on the school, not subject them to 1 view only, and I think you can learn from both of them. My bad for not actually stating it (I thought that was the logical way to do it - Separate classes)
OK! Now you're thinking!

GOOD!!!

It shows that you do have at least a couple of brain cells to rub together!
Brigan wrote:I'm an Atheist myself. I don't consider any religion is the way to go, as most people seem to held one just to have a reason to live, the only good thing it can come from it it's the "be a good person" commandments, but even so... a lot of damage has been done to Humanity's progress throught History. Be it the Crusades, the Jihad, the Inquisition, etc.

There's just us. till we find alien life... plus the Bible contradicts itself a lot.

but hey Dictatorship is never good, so having to choose from two isn't bad either.

I Support you.
On that, I can agree!

Religion has no place in a science class.

Anyway . . . . .

In case you guys are interested, here is a link to my YouTube channel.

Big Fat Heretic
http://www.youtube.com/user/BigFatHeretic#g/p

I have been adding more and more Playlists to my channel every day now.

Please do check them out.
ImageI'm fat and sassy! I love to sing & dance & stomp my feet & really rock your world!

All I want to hear from an ex-jock is "Will that be paper or plastic?" After that he can shut the fuck up!
Heah comes da judge! Heah comes da judge! Order in da court 'cuz heah comes da judge!
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Re: GOOD NEWS!!! Science Education Triumphs in Texas!

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Fatman. I have to add, those images about Santa, Fairy, and the Easter bunny are disturbing, we all know the truth about them, and portraying them like that serves no purpose, they are made for children to experience sillyness, joy, happiness, and cultivate good manners and goodwill, why would you put a bloody axe to them is beyond my comprenhesion and I actually find it disturbing.

Your hatred to Jocks may be justified and towards Abusing trainers also, but seriosly the true nature of sports is to have fun and to improve mentally and phisically as well, Yes, you improve mentally too, books, books and books alone will get you crazy, bonding with friends with a friendly street soccer game is fun, and many other activities as well, but is not healthy a school soccer game where the gym teacher tells the 2 most skilled players to pick 2 teams which end up tagging those last students waiting to be picked as "not popular", "nerds", and other names, I know personally since I was the last one quite a lot. hey it was a bad move on the gym teacher, but does that makes soccer a "evil invention" ? I think not
quality of education in the USA
Ok what I'm about to say might not apply to everywhere since there's unique cases that will contradict mine's, I went to 2 different Highschools, both of them had average study equipment, but I dare say it was more than enough to achieve good grades to whoever had the real desire to get them. On our educational system our grades go from 00 to 20 points being 10 the minimun score to pass a "subject" (dunno if it's the right word for it - Math, Biology, as a whole), most students in these days practically don't care for grades, bear with me a moment and don't jump to your ever so repeating "it's because of the sports", they actually don't care if they get good grades or not, they will just settle for a 10, and as most of them say "10 is a good score, excess is luxury" (Translated from spanish). Now you're thinking it's because the school wants to emphasize sports, no it's not, most of the kids want to "enjoy" their highschool instead of preparing to the future, some want to play videogames, some like to party like nuts, and maybe some really love sports and have some skill to it. What I'm trying to say, sports it's not always the reason, It could of been like that when you studied and even so It could of been that school alone in that region.


It shows that you do have at least a couple of brain cells to rub together!
Can you please be a little respectful about others who do or don't agree on your views?
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