One possible benefit?

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Now, don't get me wrong. I hated sports in my high school. Their promotion of conformity, of elitism, of hierarchy, and of using money on something that takes up 3 hours a day and in 4 years teaches you less than a one hour long, one semester class. Prep assemblies were the biggest waste of time ever and weren't exactly a promotion of equality, since nobody cheered me on when I played Starcraft (not that I'd want them to, since that game actually requires intelligent thought). It only made it worse that my principal, who proclaimed "I was a jock in high school," never seemed to do anything good for the school and yet took credit for everything that went right, even things that were just fine before he became principal again (he ceased to be principal for some unexplained reason I think either in the early 2000s or late 1990s and went to another school). Then there was that dick of a journalism teacher I had, the only one to ever send me to the principal's office when I finally told him "screw you," who said, "I saw your dad and brother at the MSU hockey game. Where were you? Playing Resident Evil or some other nonsense I bet." The final insult was like the first four pages of my yearbook with my name having poor capitalization on the front being covered with sports nonsense.

However, there was a minimum GPA required to play sports, and you couldn't be failing any classes. I remember my coach confronting me about my grade in Spanish once, and others about their grades as well. I did get a 3.5 on the exam for that semester, but I think that had more to do with my mom making me study my butt off than anything else, as well as getting sick before exams and getting extra time to study as a result. But do you guys think this could be a good reason to justify having sports in schools, to force students to raise their GPA to play?
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obviously it's a good reason. I can't speak for a lot of other schools, but in my school, for the most part athletes are some of the ones that get the best grades.

and yeah, sports take no thought :roll:
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In my opinion, no. There are dozens of other incentives BESIDES SPORTS that could be used to encourage students to get good grades!

Other incentives are things like conditional participation in art or band class, field trips, after-school clubs, fund raising, being able to leave school early, skipping classes, skipping assemblies, free tickets, extra credit, etc... and that old standby... promotion to the next GRADE!

Focusing on sports as the only thing that can motivate students to excel is inefficient; Since most people aren't crazy about being on the football team, using sports as an incentive to get good grades won't affect very many people, right?

It would make more sense to provide incentives that were more universally liked like those listed above. Just my humble opinion.
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what makes art and music more important than sports? All are forms of entertainment, and things people do for fun.
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Detroitsportsfan08 wrote:what makes art and music more important than sports? All are forms of entertainment, and things people do for fun.
This thread was not a debate about which activity was more important. It was a discussion on whether sports had any merit as motivation to get good grades in school.

My position is that since few people have any interest in qualifying for school sports teams, they are a poor incentive for most people to keep their grades up.

If you want to dodge this topic and start another about which activity is better, please feel free. :D
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they can be one of many incentives. High school sports are much, much more beneficial than you think.

You're really reaching on this one.
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Detroitsportsfan08 wrote:they can be one of many incentives. High school sports are much, much more beneficial than you think.

You're really reaching on this one.
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besides the bullying aspect, which is your guys only argument and a very weak one at that, how are high school sports harmful?
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Detroitsportsfan08 wrote:besides the bullying aspect, which is your guys only argument and a very weak one at that, how are high school sports harmful?
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still waiting for your reasons as to why high school sports do more bad than good.
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Detroitsportsfan08 wrote:still waiting for your reasons as to why high school sports do more bad than good.
Any time you or any other sports fanatic opens their mouth, they answer your question.

Fitz301 :twisted:
You might be a sports fan/jerk if...
You've ever started a sentence with "Buddy of mine..." or "I got a buddy..."
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Fitz301 wrote:
Detroitsportsfan08 wrote:still waiting for your reasons as to why high school sports do more bad than good.
Any time you or any other sports fanatic opens their mouth, they answer your question.

Fitz301 :twisted:

nice zen-like response, Fitz.
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Re: One possible benefit?

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lmao, in other words

"we hate sports, aren't good at them, and aren't accepted by that crowd so therefore there should be no sports in high school"
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Detroitsportsfan08 wrote:still waiting for your reasons as to why high school sports do more bad than good.
They're probably being obnoxious because they already gave them and they find it annoying to have to give them again. If you can check back at the forum all the time why can't you take some time to look at the main page?

http://www.sportssuck.org/school.htm

Mainly has to do with elitism and causing something to be associated with schools that isn't really all that educational.
Detroitsportsfan08 wrote:lmao, in other words

"we hate sports, aren't good at them, and aren't accepted by that crowd so therefore there should be no sports in high school"
EEEHHHHHENT! Wrong guess! Do you want to play double jeopardy, where the scores can really change? And yes, I ripped that off of Die Hard, but sports these days aren't very original either.
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Detroitsportsfan08 wrote:lmao, in other words

"we hate sports, aren't good at them, and aren't accepted by that crowd so therefore there should be no sports in high school"

You just answered your own question doofus. None of us here feel the need to be "part of the crowd". I, personally, don't feel the need to seek acceptance from those whose I.Q.'s are equivalent to their shoe size, who constantly go on and on about some ridiculous game. There might as well be people who get this worked up over a game of Monopoly, to us it's basically the same thing - A GAME. A child's pastime. The national pastime that's become the national distraction, nothing more than a mass outbreak of OCD causing seemingly rational people to act irrationally and subject to compulsive behavior including rudeness, pushiness and outright disregard for others all in the name of A GAME.

That's what you sport's fans can't stand can you, the fact that there those who can't stand your little game, isn't that right? Well too fucking bad, DEAL WITH IT!

Fitz301 :twisted:
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You've ever started a sentence with "Buddy of mine..." or "I got a buddy..."
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