Republican Scandal Behind Child Abuse - (Topic Re-named)

[Fat Man]

Fat Man, ...
Your anger and hatred will get you nowhere in life, my friend. I understand this elementary fact quite well because I've been there.
For anyone reading this stuff, I just have one question: Is this not flaming?

... I think his remarks are going to damage site membership and participation.

You're absolutely correct, recovering_fan. This website is now less a place for people who don't like sports to express their own views, but has become a place for Fat Man to vent his spleen against every group of people he hates having nothing to do with sports.

My older daughter is a dedicated, hardworking high-school math teacher who is now in her second year of teaching. My wife (the mother of both of my daughters) recently informed me of a conversation that she had with our daughter, who had been interested in the website where her daddy was serving as a moderator. But after visiting this website's forum, she told my wife that she'll never return to this website. She specifically said that Fat Man was the reason why because his comments on education were full of hatred and ignorance. She felt personally insulted by the comments he made about teachers.

Hello Earl.

Look, I know that not all teachers are bad.

Unfortunately, I have had very few teacher who were any good.

When I was in the 1st, 2ed, and 3rd grade I had some good teachers that I liked. They tried to encourage my interest in Astronomy, and would clip out magazine articles on science and then I was told to stay after classes while they handed me those articles in a folder to take home.

But the teachers I had in later years were either merely incompetent or really bad.

In Junior High School at Truth Or Consequences New Mexico my PE Coach was the absolute worse, while the other teachers I had were merely incompetent.

When I went to high school in Las Cruses New Mexico I had teachers who didn't teach anything at all, and my science teacher was the worst.

I'm sure there are some good schools out there with excellent teachers, but I was not fortunate enough to attend such schools with better teachers.

This topic is suppose to be about a program called STRAIGHT that was supported by a lot of Republicans, where children were abused and even sexually molested.

At least, tell me what you think of the STRAIGHT article.

Please???

Thank you.

PS

Please also read my latest topic . . .

How Sports Destroyed My Family Life! Please Read And Reply!
http://www.sportssuck.org/phpbb2/viewto ... f=1&t=4773

Thank you.

[recovering_fan]

Fat Man, ...
Your anger and hatred will get you nowhere in life, my friend. I understand this elementary fact quite well because I've been there.
For anyone reading this stuff, I just have one question: Is this not flaming?

... I think his remarks are going to damage site membership and participation.

You're absolutely correct, recovering_fan. This website is now less a place for people who don't like sports to express their own views, but has become a place for Fat Man to vent his spleen against every group of people he hates having nothing to do with sports.

But after visiting this website's forum, she told my wife that she'll never return to this website. She specifically said that Fat Man was the reason why because his comments on education were full of hatred and ignorance. She felt personally insulted by the comments he made about teachers.

That is very unfortunate. Coincidently, I did have women in mind when I suggested that rants could reek havoc on the membership list. Another reason why I dislike the anti-Republican rants specifically is because they distract from the anti-sports focus, and I don't often see threads rallying us all to war any more, like this one:

From today's Atlanta Constitution Journal concerning cable TV programming:

"When it comes to cable TV programming, there is a divide between sports fans and nonsports fans that is big enough for Moses and his legions to pass through. Those 52% of cable subscribers who are not sports fans overwhelmingly want to get out from under the sports programming burden, with 84% saying a sports tier is a 'good idea,' and just 16% willing to sign up for a sports tier for between $2 and $4 a month. On the other hand, the sporting crowd clearly can do the math. A hefty 68% of sports fans think paying extra for a sports tier is a 'bad idea,' though 50% say they are willing to pay extra for it if they have to."

"Based on survey results and a barrage of e-mails and letters, at least two cable providers in the Atlanta area are planning to drop premium sports programming from basic tier service thereby reducing the overall cost to basic plan subscribers. Sports fans who want to continue to watch their favorite sports shows will be forced to pay extra for access to the new premium tier that includes sports programming. The new tiered rates will be "effective by next fall", according to one cable provider spokesman."

Don't let up now, comrades! Keep them e-mails flying. Sports programming is on the way out! Soon we'll no longer be forced to see sports on TV! Next project: the newspapers!

http://www.sportssuck.org/phpbb2/viewto ... ?f=1&t=241

[Fat Man]

Well, this is the OFF TOPIC section of the forums where we can discuss other topics beside anti-sports.

OK, I know that the Democratic Party is not as pure as the driven snow, but when I did a Google search for Democrats who were pedophiles, I only came up with a very short list. I'm still searching.

Also, I was not attacking ALL teachers. I didn't even mention teachers when I opened this topic. The main focus of the article was on STRAIGHT and the physical and sexual abuse that took place there, and how STRAIGHT was supported by Republican politicians.

But nobody here commented on the article itself.

Instead, everybody here seems to be pissed off at me.

Please everybody, just go back to the first page of this topic and read the damn article I posted on STRAIGHT and let me know what you think of it. PLEASE???

If I appear top be attacking Republicans, well sorry.

But it's NOT Democrats who want to have Thomas Jefferson removed from the history textbooks in our schools, and it's not Democrats who want to insert Creationism (re-named Intelligent Design or ID) into the science curriculum and eventually have Darwin's Evolution removed.

It's Republican members of our Texas State Board of Education (Indoctrination) who are doing this. Don McLeroy, he even bears a remarkable resemblance to the teacher I had in the 5th grade, the one who bashed my head against the brick wall in an argument over an Astronomy book he would not allow me to check out from the library.

Don McLeroy - The Creationist in Charge of Education in Texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGmli0YI1WI

It's the Republican Party here lately who's been showing an anti-science attitude.

And it was Republican politicians who supported STRAIGHT where teenagers were getting physically and sexually abused.

As I had said before, when I read about STRAIGHT, I actually thought that I was reading something from a Charles Dickens novel written back in the 1840s.

So, the Republicans are anti-science, and they support 19th century methods of disciplining children.

If I appear angry here, and full of hate, then yes, I hate people who harm children!

Just go back and read the damn article! OK?

I feel like I'm getting my head bashed against another brick wall again!

[recovering_fan]

Hi Fat Man et al.,

I apologise in advance for how callous and unfeeling my reply is going to be. It's the first thing in the morning, and I'm sort of emotionally dead at the moment. But here goes...

Well, this is the OFF TOPIC section of the forums where we can discuss other topics beside anti-sports.

Republicans who hate sports should also be allowed to browse a forum about topics other sports without having accusations of paedophilia flung in their faces.

OK, I know that the Democratic Party is not as pure as the driven snow, but when I did a Google search for Democrats who were pedophiles, I only came up with a very short list. I'm still searching.

I think you are missing the point. The point is that only a tiny fraction of either party consists of perverts. However, all Republicans who visit this site are forced to read your thread titles, and many of them will take your accusations quite personally. And please don't tell us that they have "no right to take it personally" or some other such nonsense. It is simply not appropriate to say to anyone: "people in your party are paedophiles; they love to see children raped and tortured."

Also, I was not attacking ALL teachers. I didn't even mention teachers when I opened this topic. The main focus of the article was on STRAIGHT and the physical and sexual abuse that took place there, and how STRAIGHT was supported by Republican politicians.

No comment. I have no idea what Earl was even referring to. I don't really read many of your rants any more, so I missed the rant where you allegedly attacked teachers.

But nobody here commented on the article itself....
...Please everybody, just go back to the first page of this topic and read the damn article I posted on STRAIGHT and let me know what you think of it. PLEASE???

Sorry, but I don't see the point. I'm already a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat and am already quite depressed by the recent election results, so I do not feel the need to further depress myself by reading articles about Republicans whose rants probably embarrass the majority of their own party.

But it's NOT Democrats who want to have Thomas Jefferson removed from the history textbooks in our schools, and it's not Democrats who want to insert Creationism (re-named Intelligent Design or ID) into the science curriculum and eventually have Darwin's Evolution removed.

Got it. Let's move on, shall we?

Just go back and read the damn article! OK?

No. For the reasons given above, I will not. Few people at all are going to want to read articles appearing in threads titled "Republicans Love To See Children Raped And Tortured!!!"

I feel like I'm getting my head bashed against another brick wall again!

I have no idea why. We merely disagree with you on certain points and are asking that you stop insulting people. If you don't like the way the bricks feel, stop swinging your head straight into them.

--RF

[Fat Man]

I have no idea why. We merely disagree with you on certain points and are asking that you stop insulting people. If you don't like the way the bricks feel, stop swinging your head straight into them.

I'm not the one who's swinging my head into the bricks.

As I have said in my previous post, Don McLeroy bears a remarkable resemblance to my 5th grade teacher who bashed my head against the wall in and argument over and Astronomy book he would not allow me to check out from the school library.

I would hate to be a kid going to high school these days, especially here in Texas.

If I were sitting in the science class in school today and I opened my newest textbook, and found a chapter on Creationism in it, I would get really pissed. I would throw the book down, get up from my seat and say . . .

FUCK THIS SHIT! I WANT TO LEARN PURE SCIENCE! I DON'T WANT TO READ ANY BULLSHIT ABOUT A DIRT MAN, A RIB LADY, A GARDEN WITH A MAGIC TREE AND MAGIC FRUIT AND A TALKING SNAKE WITH LEGS!

No, I would want to learn pure science so that after I had graduated from high school and gone on to college, I would hope to eventually get into a career that involved science.

But after these kids finish high school today, the only jobs they'll get in the future is scrubbing toilets or where they'll be asking "Will that be paper or plastic?" and then they'll go home to their single axle trailer homes and die at the age of 50.

Yeah! And after I cussed out my teacher in the science class because I refused to read Creationist fairy tales, I would probably end up in a detention home.

Now they have one that is called SAFE which is a spin-off of the now defunct STRAIGHT, and it's also supported by Republican politicians and kids are still getting beaten and raped!

Yeah! The Republican idea of keeping kids SAFE means keeping kids locked up!

PRAISE DE LAUD!!!

[i_like_1981]

Well, I do agree with the fact that the Creationist belief does not belong in a Science curriculum. In Science, they have a right to teach the scientific theory of the origins of human life, which is of course, evolution. In Religious Education is where such accounts as the Creationist belief belong. I myself do believe in the evolution theory but of course, those who believe in Creationism are entitled to their beliefs. However, I don't believe that Creationism should be part of the science curriculum, because it does contradict the main widely-accepted scientific theory of the development of human life - evolution. So I'm with Fat Man on that one. We need to think about what's relevant to the subject and know where certain topics belong. Creationism and evolution are two very different theories and they are part of two different subjects, and that is how things should remain.

Best regards,
i_like_1981

[Fat Man]

Well, I do agree with the fact that the Creationist belief does not belong in a Science curriculum. In Science, they have a right to teach the scientific theory of the origins of human life, which is of course, evolution. In Religious Education is where such accounts as the Creationist belief belong. I myself do believe in the evolution theory but of course, those who believe in Creationism are entitled to their beliefs. However, I don't believe that Creationism should be part of the science curriculum, because it does contradict the main widely-accepted scientific theory of the development of human life - evolution. So I'm with Fat Man on that one. We need to think about what's relevant to the subject and know where certain topics belong. Creationism and evolution are two very different theories and they are part of two different subjects, and that is how things should remain.

Best regards,
i_like_1981

Thank you very much!



Give the man a cigar!!!

[recovering_fan]

Good morning, 1981,

However, I don't believe that Creationism should be part of the science curriculum, because it does contradict the main widely-accepted scientific theory of the development of human life - evolution. So I'm with Fat Man on that one....

As am I. Fat Man and I probably also agree on just about every other divisive* issue in American politics. However, our views diverge on the question of whether it is good for Sportssuck.org when one member titles a thread "Republicans Love To See Children Raped And Tortured!!!" He doesn't see a problem with the thread title. I do. Where do you stand?

(I don't even believe that title would be allowed at able2know.)

--RF



*--An example of a non-divisive question, where we would disagree, would be the question of whether the Republicans were becoming America's new Nazi Party. The question would not be divisive, because most people (myself included) would dismiss a "yes" answer as ridiculous. For a question to be divisive, there has to be substantial support for each side of the question. On divisive issues, then, he and I almost always agree.

[Fat Man]

Good morning, 1981,

However, I don't believe that Creationism should be part of the science curriculum, because it does contradict the main widely-accepted scientific theory of the development of human life - evolution. So I'm with Fat Man on that one....

As am I. Fat Man and I probably also agree on just about every other divisive* issue in American politics. However, our views diverge on the question of whether it is good for Sportssuck.org when one member titles a thread "Republicans Love To See Children Raped And Tortured!!!" He doesn't see a problem with the thread title. I do. Where do you stand?

(I don't even believe that title would be allowed at able2know.)

OK, I just renamed this topic. OK?

Republican Scandal Behind Child Abuse - (Topic Re-named)

Is that better now?

I guess the original title went too far.

But the fact remains, it was Republican politicians who supported STRAIGHT where teenagers were getting beaten and sexually abused. OK?

Tea and crumpets anyone???

[recovering_fan]

Republican Scandal Behind Child Abuse - (Topic Re-named)

Is that better now?

I guess the original title went too far.

Well, I don't consider myself an expert on netiquette, but the new title does sound more like something one would see on able2know and less like something a 19th century Muscovite anarchist might have written.



However, I do want to point out that I am a fairly thick-skinned person, who happens to agree with you in most mainstream political debates. In satisfying me, you may not have satisfied everyone.

Nevertheless...
Thank you,
RF

[recovering_fan]

Well, I do agree with the fact that the Creationist belief does not belong in a Science curriculum....

(from http://www.sportssuck.org/phpbb2/viewto ... 530#p20530)

I just want to add (because I sometimes don't give other people enough credit for smart and sophisticated arguments) that you made your point very well, i_like_1981. Nicely done.

--RF

[i_like_1981]

Thanks for the compliment. I did at first fear that I might have come across as a bit of a boot-licker with that post, but... it is how I feel about this subject. And I'm sure the topic title change won't do any harm either. Nonetheless, I do feel that one extreme thread title shouldn't discourage a potential good new member who is passionate about the issue at hand here. In this case, the disdain for sports. Members don't have to respond to topics on here if they feel uncomfortable doing so. I myself wouldn't have been put off this forum by seeing some rather unpleasant threads or posts, because this whole anti-sports theme is one that I feel I have a lot to say for. If the ideology of the forum interests you enough and you have plenty of interesting things to say, then it would be rather daft to be put off making your points known by a few extreme threads which you have the choice to ignore anyway. Or you could even refute the points raised in the extreme thread that troubles you and state why you disagree. Either way, I think it would be quite silly to snub an entire online community of people on a forum which would suit your interests just because of some extreme thread titles you disagree with. You've got to try things out first before you judge them.

Best regards,
i_like_1981